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rogerthat 
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 Posted: June 16 2012 at 22:14 |
 mister nobody wrote:
Have Beatles ever composed a song as good as Shine on? Or Echoes? Or Dogs? Have they ever thought of concepts such as Dark Side? Or the Wall?
My vote would go to the obvious. |
And Pink Floyd would fall flat on their face if they had to write a funny, whimsical album like Sgt Peppers. If you are going to address this question by pointing out what the Beatles did not do that Floyd did, there's plenty more that Floyd could not do that the Beatles could. In terms of versatility, there's simply no comparison at all.
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 21:15 |
^ I thought Rick would be an architect ... or designing toilet seats, as he said  .
Miss you, man. R. I. P.
And besides, give the Fab boys a break; they've done enough to be beyond legendary. Indeed, without them, where would the Floyd really be?
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 19:34 |
mister nobody wrote:
Have Beatles ever composed a song as good as Shine on? Or Echoes? Or Dogs? Have they ever thought of concepts such as Dark Side? Or the Wall?
My vote would go to the obvious. |
Well no but the rule is the same. Without The Beatles, Nick Mason and Roger Waters would be architects, Richard Wright would be a pianist who would play in bars, Syd Barrett would be a painter and David Gilmour would be a poor guitarist.
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
- Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle
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Earthmover
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 19:16 |
Have Beatles ever composed a song as good as Shine on? Or Echoes? Or Dogs? Have they ever thought of concepts such as Dark Side? Or the Wall?
My vote would go to the obvious.
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 16:21 |
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Pink Floyd didn't
The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times.
Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time
The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwide
Pink Floyd had sold 250 million albums worldwide
Every song of every Beatles record is well known
Pink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother
The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrer
Pink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer
And the list goes on and on... |
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I have a hammer and some nails I can give you, you can seal yourself in your own coffin. I probably can count on one hand how many people on this site care about Rolling Stone or Billbord...........
Those are bold comments in red.......ouch!
Ivan did a fine job disecting your list. Give me any obscure album over any beatles album and I will be happy...I prefer not to follow the masses. |
Yeah but I don't care about Bilboard or Rolling Stone. And I say that the Beatles are better songwriters only because they were more magic. But still Pink Floyd is very magic. I love both artists. But in terms of musicianship, Pink Floyd wins: Guitar players: George Harisson and John Lennon vs David Gilmour. David Gilmour because he plays the good notes at the good time. Keyboard players: John Lennon and Paul McCartney vs Richard Wright. Righard Wright wins Rythym sections: Beatles vs Pink Floyd. I don't care. They are both not gifted
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Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb
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Sheavy
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 12:40 |
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I believe Floyd were much better songwriters, even if The Beatles more innovative.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 09:24 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
[The Beatles] used French chanson in their music, mixed sitar with R&B and experimentalism ... they practically invented pop-prog, pulled off backwards guitar, developed a technique of changing timbre by changing speed on tape (although that was G. Martin's fault), ... lots of technical, [stylistic,] and songwriting stuff. |
Tell me they invented POP and I'll follow you, they only became close to Prog in Abbey Road, they only joined Psyche after this genre was already pretty popular.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 09:18 |
In this cases the masses follow us
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:58 |
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
[The Beatles] used French chanson in their music, mixed sitar with R&B and experimentalism ... they practically invented pop-prog, pulled off backwards guitar, developed a technique of changing timbre by changing speed on tape (although that was G. Martin's fault), ... lots of technical, [stylistic,] and songwriting stuff. |
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:53 |
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The Beatles. |
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:47 |
Catcher10 wrote:
Ivan did a fine job disecting your list. Give me any obscure album over any beatles album and I will be happy...I prefer not to follow the masses. |
So why PF, Rush or Iron Maiden instead of UZ, Art Zoyd or KD? Sorry, couldn't resist. 
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:45 |
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Every song of every Beatles record is well known. |
No s$%t. I never heard or read anyone talk about "I Need You" or "You Won't See Me" or "The Word" ... unless you meant that statement as an exaggeration.
ExittheLemming wrote:
BTW They both had crap drummers |
But that's a good thing, right?
Edited by Dayvenkirq - June 16 2012 at 02:48
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:35 |
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:32 |
geneyesontle wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.
Vastly more talented.
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I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band
Pink Floyd didn't
The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times.
Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time
The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwide
Pink Floyd had sold 250 million albums worldwide
Every song of every Beatles record is well known
Pink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother
The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrer
Pink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer
And the list goes on and on... |
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I have a hammer and some nails I can give you, you can seal yourself in your own coffin. I probably can count on one hand how many people on this site care about Rolling Stone or Billbord...........
Those are bold comments in red.......ouch!
Ivan did a fine job disecting your list. Give me any obscure album over any beatles album and I will be happy...I prefer not to follow the masses.
Edited by Catcher10 - June 16 2012 at 02:34
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 02:06 |
geneyesontle wrote:
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Pink Floyd didn't |
I can't care less for Rolling Stones Magazine, as a fact I consider an honor being ignored by RS
geneyesontle wrote:
The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times.Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time |
I care even less for Biillboard than about Rolling Stones Magazinne
geneyesontle wrote:
The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwidePink Floyd had sold 200 million albums worldwide |
I care even less for sales than about Billboard
geneyesontle wrote:
Every song of every Beatles record is well knownPink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother |
Most of the bands I love are unknown by 90% of the people.
geneyesontle wrote:
The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrerPink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer |
Well...The Beatles songs lasted an average 3.00 minutes
Pink Floyd has much longer songs as a fact they have 13 songs over 10 minutes with a total time of 3 hours 16 minutes, 48 seconds (Only that 11 songs represent an average of 65 Beatles songs.  )...Not counting the 48 Pink Floyd songs between 5:01 and 9:49 minutes.
I prefer longer songs (5 - 6 minutes average)
BTW: Pink Floyd's songwriting career didn't lasted 31 years, only 27, their last studio album was released in 1994.
In other words, statistics mean very little when talking about music.
Iván
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - June 16 2012 at 02:11
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 01:34 |
I love one Beatles album (Abbey Road) and like two more.
I love at least 5 Pink Floyd albums.
No matter how influential The Beatles are, I go the The Floyd
Iván
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 00:56 |
This comparison raises some interesting issues: As far as creating popular music that has become an acknowledged reference point across all secular cultures, it's more than likely that anyone > 40 years old can name all four Beatles and sing several of their songs: this is NOT true of Floyd. However, DSotM is probably on a par with anything the Beatles created (purely in terms of becoming a cultural artefact recognised at a global level etc). BTW They both had crap drummers
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rogerthat
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Posted: June 16 2012 at 00:17 |
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^^^ Um, if we did measure it only in terms of influence and importance to music, Beatles would still beat the daylights out of Pink Floyd. I don't know why this question cannot be decided only on account of personal preference, though. If somebody likes PF more than Beatles, he likes it, that's all. Nothing to justify there.
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 20:51 |
geneyesontle wrote:
Catcher10 wrote:
geneyesontle wrote:
Hercules wrote:
Floyd.Vastly more talented. |
I think that the Beatles accomplished much more things than Pink Floyd did. |
Like what....do tell please.....Looking forward to your list. |
The Beatles had the top spot on Rolling Stone's 500 greatest albums of all time list with Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Pink Floyd didn't The Beatles had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 20 times. Pink Floyd had hit the number one spot on the Bilboard Hot 100 only one time The Beatles had sold more than one billion albums worldwide Pink Floyd had sold 200 million albums worldwide Every song of every Beatles record is well known Pink Floyd has unknown records: More, Atom Heart Mother The Beatles had released 206 songs during their seven year carrer Pink Floyd had released 145 songs during their thirty-one year carrer And the list goes on and on... |
Oh so now we measure achievement by the rate of approval of Rolling Stone magazine and the number of records sold and number of top hits? Damn, quite strange for a prog fan.
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Posted: June 15 2012 at 20:49 |
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Pink Floyd by approximately 2567900000 nautical miles, the distance between the abbey street and that dark side of the satellite.
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