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J-Man 
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 Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:12 |
 Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:
These kind of topics are really making me hate this site.
You know who I feel sorry for?
People who are pretentious f**king c**ts that think they are above anyone else because they've "heard prog" and others haven't.
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OK then.... 
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meatal
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:09 |
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Nope, don't really feel sorry for those who don't get prog, actually made me like it more because it wasn't mainstream and accepted/understood by everyone.
Enjoy the fact that those who get it and enjoy it are very dedicated to the style they have chosen to listen to.
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The bitter harvest of a barren land, I'm painting pictures you don't understand.
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Padraic
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:06 |
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People who don't get prog have plagued our fragile earth for many years.
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Synchestra
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Joined: April 07 2009
Location: New Zealand
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 15:02 |
I knew a guy in high school who felt sorry for others because they didn't spend hours a day playing with a yo-yo (although he was pretty amazing) but I bet he's never heard of Pink Floyd 
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'Yeah, thats.. Whatever you're talking about for ya' - Zapp brannigan
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Slartibartfast
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Joined: April 29 2006
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 13:11 |
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Stand up and fight, for you know we are right
We must strike at the lies
That have spread like disease through our minds.
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Some of you are going to die -
Martyrs of course to the freedom that I shall provide.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Moogtron III
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 12:35 |
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I do feel sorry for people who don't have the kind of mind - blowing listening experiences that I had with some wonderful music.
But not necessarily that they should listen to prog.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 12:15 |
Negoba wrote:
No, for they don't have to deal with the strange and peculiar hole that funnels money straight out of their wallets that we do. |
Of course this phenomenon happens to other music fanatics as well. I must admit I am a bit jealous of those who have decided to stick to '70's prog. It's a closed circuit and the worst you are looking at are remasters.
Edited by Slartibartfast - November 12 2009 at 13:12
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Logan
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 12:05 |
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I have felt sorry for people who don't appreciate music, and deaf people who don't have the ability to hear it. But I don't put Prog on a pedestal and think it superior to other forms -- in some ways I commonly think of it as inferior. I can understand those who may think Prog to be a bast**disation of genres it borrows from (for instance, classical music). I think of many times Prog acts have lifted or adapted music by composers greater than themselves (in many cases uncredited).
We as a community don't even find that we like the same music (such a wide variety here, and we have disagreements about what Prog is and what it can be). I might as well be pitied because I don't like Spock's Beard and pity others because they don't enjoy Art Zoyd.
Edited by Logan - November 12 2009 at 12:07
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The T
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 12:00 |
I feel sorry for those who feel sorry about people "not getting prog"..
One day you'll wake up and realize how irrelevant music is and how stupid it is to suffer about it... (again, with exceptions for those who live off music, who probably better worry about what they do..)
If you're in pain because nobody else likes the music you do... Get a life
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ExittheLemming
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Joined: October 19 2007
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:56 |
darksideof wrote:
I do!! yes I do
basically because prog makes a more intelligent person don't matter what part of the planet you are from.  |
I just never got the prog = intelligent equation from the outset. Most of the lyrics and so-called concepts in prog are at best, borderline juvenile/gauche. Tom Verlaine, Lloyd Cole, Bob Dylan and Lou Reed's lyrics contain significantly more sophistication, depth and maturity than most prog (although the music is a lot simpler) Perhaps it's one of those self fulfilling prophecies that run along similar lines to these hefty porkers: All Germans are arrogant - all Dutch people are hippys - all blondes give squeaky toys a bad name - Jon Anderson is unintelligible (so by inference profound) - all Scottish people are mean - people who buy mainstream products are unthinking plankton etc etc I mean come on, ain't this type of stereotyping just designed to make us feel better about our own values, and kinda erm...dumb ?
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darksideof
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:43 |
I do!! yes I do
basically because prog makes a more intelligent person don't matter what part of the planet you are from.
Edited by darksideof - November 12 2009 at 11:44
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tamijo
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:23 |
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No - Could think of 10.000 reasons to feel sorry for people, even nations, their music preferences just wouldent be the reason.
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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 11:19 |
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I don't feel any pity for them at all, but I feel pity in a different way.
I love many different things, prog rock being among them. But I also love reading (especially historical fiction), taking awesome bike rides, road trips, cooking (Depends on the day), programming video games, etc...and I can get as much joy from most of these hobbies as I can from prog if I am in the mood for them.
There are too many things in life to experience, and there's no way each person can experience each. Each time I go for a bike ride, and experience that thrill, I am denying myself all the other things on that list. And while I have found ways to listen to more prog while I do most of these other things (so that I can enjoy both at once - I will ignore the studies that speak about how multitasking makes both tasks less effective when it's leisure related), sometimes you just want to concentrate on one thing.
So people who don't love prog? They probably have some other activity or hobby in their life that makes them feel just as happy, gives them just as much meaning and excites them just as much. And it may even be cheaper and easier. Just because an experience requires more work doesn't mean that it's a better experience (as much as we love to believe that anything worth having is worth working for).
The only pity I feel is for people who haven't found some hobby that brings them joy. I don't see why prog is any better than any other hobby.
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peart_lee_lifeson
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:50 |
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One can only wish more people knew about prog, but not too many. That would just get annoying. It is kind of nice to keep some secrets to yourself. That being said, I recently spoke about prog in my speech class, but I don't think I really influenced anyone's musical opinion. But, yes, I do feel sorry for those who know nothing about prog. Also, if many more people knew and liked prog, illegal downloading would go way up I believe, and that is not a good thing.
Edited by peart_lee_lifeson - November 12 2009 at 10:51
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:45 |
It`s lonely at the top. 
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The Truth
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:36 |
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People, people, don't make topics like this! People should like their own kind of music just like we like prog
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Negoba
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 10:05 |
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No, for they don't have to deal with the strange and peculiar hole that funnels money straight out of their wallets that we do.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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TODDLER
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 09:33 |
How can I feel sorry for a person that doesn't get prog when there working concept is based on presenting my favorite music as a mere joke. For example, in a dance club they sample Tangerine Dream's early works into electronica dance beat rubbish. The thing about electronica dance beats is it has a 100 percent similarity to the trashy disco beats from the 70's. One guy remarked: It's all good. Excuse me? It's all good? What's all good? The money you make? How disgraceful to put disco beats to Atem or Phadrea.
I'll tell you what, this is what I'm going to do. I'm going to put electronica dance beats into Jethro Tull's A Passion Play, Selling England By The Pound, Close To The Edge and see how you like it? Think about it. Think real hard? It's the same concept really. But because electronic music has always been more underground then prog,(especially the early works), almost no one has a reason or cause for rebellious action against this type of activity. Why don't they just sample Wendy Carlos Sonic Seasonings and get it over with? Just continue to disgrace all the electronic innovators while your at it. How is any of this activity good? This is worse than the analogy of Clapton being God(which is quite disgraceful within itself), Someone made a mistake and wrote God on that wall instead of good. I don't feel sorry for people like this.
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progrules
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 09:12 |
If I see great audiences enjoying simple and useless pop songs that even have little to do with real music I indeed feel sorry for them and count my blessings for having found prog.
It's also a matter of two different worlds because I experienced many times that the "rubbish" lovers really don't get prog and don't even want to get it because this music is too demanding for them. Too bad ...
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A day without prog is a wasted day
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Single Coil
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Posted: November 12 2009 at 08:52 |
I know people that aren't into prog, but ARE into a different kind of music. They can name their "Top 5" groups. They actively seek out new music and bands to listen to. They can articulate the reasons they do or do not like something.... etc.
So I would never "feel sorry" for a person like that.... I actually think they are closer to liking prog than they realize !
However, I also know people who don't get into any kind of music at all. They might have a slight fondness for the decade of pop music that was playing on the radio during their high-school years.... but that is about it. They make no effort to dig up that music, or any new music.
I really don't understand how you cannot simply NEED music. My 1-year-old daughter just loves music... but no one "taught" her to like it... she just does. I imagine that even the freakin' cavemen tried to play SOME sort of music... LOL !
So. I feel sorry for people who don't have the drive to explore any music... because i think they are missing out on something that is a major part of life. And if that music is prog... all the better !
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