Led Zeppelin Reissues Part II

SteveG wrote: ^I'm also doing an A/B with old vinyl versus new and I agree with C-10, the new vinyl sounds great. A friend who has the 2014 CD's says that they sound great also. Either format is a sure bet.

^I'm also doing an A/B with old vinyl versus new and I agree with C-10, the new vinyl sounds great. A friend who has the 2014 CD's says that they sound great also. Either format is a sure bet.

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^ I think there's some discussion of that on pages 1 and 2 of this thread

Atavachron wrote: SteveG wrote: ^Agree about the lyrics of Whole Lotta Love but the killer riff was from Page and that's what's important to me.The lemon song was another dug up blues but as Dr Wu said, that was common with sixties blues rock bands at the time and Zeppelin was quickly moving away from the blues so they needed their own material from then on. The killer riff was indeed Page's but it is clearly a standard blues riff that is repeatedly used by old and new bluesmen alike; root ~ minor three ~ four, with that chunky mute, a bit of swing in the right hand, and amp tone that would go on to define metal for the next twenty years .   But nothing special in the notes or pattern, it was what Page did with it that mattered,

I agree that  it was Page's take on the riff that made it special. Good point.

^The deal with early American blues music, like early American folk music was that performers lifted riffs and melodies or lyrics from each other and changed them to suit their particular songs and needs. This was a known fact and that's why no one threw a fit when a blues tune got clipped. After all, people thought, who really created the original to begin with? When blues rock became big business obviously this attitude changed but Zeppelin was operating in between those two opinions at the time the band took off. That's why no one jumped all over Zep at the time. Now in our retro world, people look back and say 'Oh, how terrible they were.' But it's all been taken out of context now. Again, Zep still originally produced the majority of their music. The last time I was in a southern Delta blues club (quite awhile ago, btw), I don't recall the lone artist playing anything that resembled Kashmir.

Edited by SteveG - August 01 2014 at 15:48

^Agree about the lyrics of Whole Lotta Love but the killer riff was from Page and that's what's important to me.The lemon song was another dug up blues but as Dr Wu said, that was common with sixties blues rock bands at the time and Zeppelin was quickly moving away from the blues so they needed their own material from then on.


Edited by SteveG - August 01 2014 at 10:41

chopper wrote: SteveG wrote: Correct Chop. On every album from Zep 2 through to Coda. Some prople get tunnel vision and miss the bigger picture. Not Led Zep 1?

  It is the album with the disputed songs so for the sake of simplicity I moved on the 2nd album. Eight albums of original material with one being a double album is enough to make the point.


Edited by SteveG - August 01 2014 at 09:42

Correct Chop. On every album from Zep 2 through to Coda. Some people get tunnel vision and miss the bigger picture.

Edited by SteveG - August 01 2014 at 09:41

^I must admit they were powerful cos they fooled so many people but that makes them overrated too.