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Gerinski 
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 Posted: March 03 2011 at 00:01 |
I like Ayreon although it can feel a bit childish or cheesy sometimes, but then that's how operas and musicals generally are.
He created a style and is a good musician so he deserves credit.
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CCVP
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 18:11 |
 Repner wrote:
All I can say to those who find it too cheesy it try his Guilt Machine project. It takes on a more serious tone
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As much as I love like 99% of Arjen's projects/albums, that would be the worst place to start because it actually combines all of his vices in one single piece of music/album. Back on the thread, Ayreon's space metal is by far one of the most fantastic things that ever happened to progressive metal.
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Repner
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:54 |
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All I can say to those who find it too cheesy it try his Guilt Machine project. It takes on a more serious tone
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Endless Wire
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 17:01 |
Man Overboard wrote:
I like Star One pretty well, especially the Live On Earth DVD concert!
So, I always had the impression that the prior albums were vaguely connected by universe and some common themes, but mostly existed as standalone stories. 01 turns this on its head, as the story it provides could be seen as a "big picture" for all of the other albums to fit into as closer examinations of events therein, providing a great deal of context for them. Even Actual Fantasy, which wasn't supposed to be a part of the story, feels like an alt-verse The Truth Is In Here.
This new perspective reveals the Ayreon discography to exist as something of a clean, well-executed, cohesive musical novel, which strikes me as rather unique even in the prog world. Are there any other artists who have done anything similar, perhaps to the same degree? I'm aware of Coheed and Cambria, but they suck and lost the storytelling trail ages back for something much more...uninteresting. |
Check out The Dear Hunter- they do the narrative/music thing better than anyone I've ever heard. Better than both Coheed (whom I love) and Ayreon (who I think is somewhere between OK and good). TDH is halfway through a six album concept piece, and are about to release a 9 EP set based on the color spectrum. Act II is my favorite, but I'd recommend starting with Act I and going through them in order. Let me know what you think if you decide to give them a listen.
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Antennas
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Location: Netherlands
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Posted: March 02 2011 at 16:39 |
Harry Hood wrote:
Bruce Dickinson's performance on "Into the Black Hole" is so intense. I didn't know he was capable of singing like that. |
I have the same feeling regarding James LaBrie's performance on "The Human Equation". When I at first read that he'd participate on that album, I thought, "Oh, noes!!!" but he actually did a very decent job. Way, way better than that over-the-top rubbish of his on Dream Theater albums (sorry, fans). I guess Ajren kindly requested him to sing in stead of scream for once. 
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Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either
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rogerthat
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Posted: February 27 2011 at 00:44 |
Sean Trane wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
I'm going to say something controversial for a change:
People who don't like Ayreon and say that it's bland or boring may simply be superficial listeners. |
let me be superficial then....
better that than being brainwashed |
Ditto.
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Harry Hood
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 22:40 |
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Bruce Dickinson's performance on "Into the Black Hole" is so intense. I didn't know he was capable of singing like that.
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avestin
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 22:09 |
In 1999 I came across an intriguing album in a record shop. I looked at the name of the band and it said Ayreon and the name of the album was Into The Electric Castle - A Space Opera. The drawing on the album was beautiful and mysterious. Having not any idea of what the music might be and who the band (at that time I didn't know who was behind the music), I took a chance and bought it. At home I was very pleasantly surprised to hear this concept album, an extravaganza of progressive rock songs with many different contributors and vocalists. And so this inspired me to look for more info on the band I got Ayreon's 1995 release, The Final Experiment which is also a delightful album, albeit not without flaws (but with two great songs, Sail Away to Avalon and The Charm of the Seer). From that point on, I kept getting any new release whenever it came out. Still my favourite is The Electric Castle, but I enjoy all his releases tremendously (as well as all of the other projects, though not as much).
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 21:50 |
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Ayreon is one of the great prog bands and The HUMAN EQUATION is one of my top 5 all time great prog albums undoubtedly. I love every track. Timeline is an amazing boxset featuring the most incredible set list. i have all the albums and they are all great.
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Antennas
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 21:11 |
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Yo man, he IS. Fantastic musician, lovely fellow.
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Jesus never managed to figure out the theremin either
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valravennz
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 14:07 |
I have been a fan of Ayreon for years. I also like the side-projects particularly, Star One and Guilt Machine! Arjen is a brilliant musician and composer and I always look forward to new offerings with enthusiasm. My favourites are: Into The Electric Castle; Star One; The Dream Sequencer and Guilt Machine. I felt that The Human Equation, though a great concept album, was palatable in small parts. O1 I consider be the weakest offering.
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"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence"
- Robert Fripp
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The Truth
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 12:59 |
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I only own The Human Equation but it is amazing nonetheless.
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Junges
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 12:53 |
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01 doesn't come even near to The Human Equation.
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Man Overboard
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 12:50 |
I like Star One pretty well, especially the Live On Earth DVD concert!
So, I always had the impression that the prior albums were vaguely connected by universe and some common themes, but mostly existed as standalone stories. 01 turns this on its head, as the story it provides could be seen as a "big picture" for all of the other albums to fit into as closer examinations of events therein, providing a great deal of context for them. Even Actual Fantasy, which wasn't supposed to be a part of the story, feels like an alt-verse The Truth Is In Here.
This new perspective reveals the Ayreon discography to exist as something of a clean, well-executed, cohesive musical novel, which strikes me as rather unique even in the prog world. Are there any other artists who have done anything similar, perhaps to the same degree? I'm aware of Coheed and Cambria, but they suck and lost the storytelling trail ages back for something much more...uninteresting.
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JakeMM626
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 10:06 |
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Check out Arjen's Star One. Just came out with a new album last year called Victims of the Modern Age. Their self-titled is my favorite debut album. Give them a listen if you like Ayreon.
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let prog reign
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Joined: December 11 2010
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 10:02 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
I'm going to say something controversial for a change:
People who don't like Ayreon and say that it's bland or boring may simply be superficial listeners. |
after listening to The Human Equation, I wouldn't say that it's boring or bland just really cheesy and at times annoying.
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Once upon a time there was some writing on the wall we all ignored, until the time that there was war and feasts of famine at our door
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Prog Geo
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 05:44 |
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The human equation is one of the best albums in music.And not only this album.
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Sonorous Meal show every Sunday at 20:00 (greek time) on http://www.justincaseradio.com
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Drew
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 02:20 |
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Im totally down with Ayreon- a unique Metal experience.A band that is unique in a genre where it is hard to separate yourself from others....
Edited by Drew - February 26 2011 at 02:20
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Sean Trane
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 02:17 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
I'm going to say something controversial for a change:
People who don't like Ayreon and say that it's bland or boring may simply be superficial listeners. |
let me be superficial then....
better that than being brainwashed
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: February 26 2011 at 02:10 |
I'm going to say something controversial for a change:
People who don't like Ayreon and say that it's bland or boring may simply be superficial listeners.
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