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Jimbo
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Joined: February 28 2005
Location: Helsinki
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Points: 2818
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Posted: March 24 2007 at 09:37 |
- I find most Italian symphonic prog tame and unoriginal. - I find most post-rock predictable and unimaginative. - I find most prog-metal a bit soulless, too technical, but mostly just silly.. - I find most modern symphonic prog too AOR-tinged and cheesy. - I find most RIO/Avant-prog self-indulgent and needlessly complex. - I find most Neo-prog corny and regressive. - I find most krautrock interesting, but ultimately just unlistenable hippie drivel. I better stop before I get my ass kicked... I suppose those are pretty big sins around here. As someone wise once said: "90 % of everything is crap." (I'm just kidding, I think )
Edited by Jimbo - March 24 2007 at 11:17
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Draconean
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 04 2006
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 2012
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Posted: March 24 2007 at 07:08 |
Years ago I sold 2 LP's to a friend of mine.
When some time later I had second thoughts about selling them, I wasn't able to buy them back. And I never came across those albums anymore (LP or CD).
The first one was Mike Oldfield's "Collaborations" from his box-set "Boxed". IMO this album contains the best and most progressive guitar playing he ever did.
The other album was a Queen live bootleg from the pre-ANATO era called "Stunning". It had a very poor sound quality (illegal recording from the early 70's) but it contained 3 previously unreleased tracks. "See What A Fool I've Been" (yeah, right on the spot here! ), "Hangman" and a song whose title I've forgotten. "Hangman" was actually a very nice song.
I have been searching everywhere but I even couldn't find it in any collector's catalogue. I think it must be a real collector's item right now.
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I'm running still,
I shall until,
one day I hope that I'll arrive
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Atavachron
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Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
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Points: 65268
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Posted: March 24 2007 at 02:24 |
NaturalScience wrote:
I don't know if this counts as guilty, but I would like to like Meshuggah since most of the PM fans here rave about them. Yet I listen to their samples and get absolutely nothing out of it.
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what do you expect from a band called Meshuggah..
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Witchwoodhermit
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 23 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 871
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Posted: March 24 2007 at 02:02 |
Ok, truly truly.
I'm not a huge fan of Rush. Some of it I get, but mostly, ugh I doesn't hit me.
I'm in the process of developing my Genesis, Yes ear. I wasn't fond of them in my younger years, being heavily indulged in Floyd, Sabbath and Tull. But now they are growing on me.
Caravan. -LOVE the debut. Hit and miss with the rest. I sadly regret the missing year (1969). It could've been a bit more "Caravan" and little less "If I Could..."
There, that is my sin.
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Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan
ringed by ants and musing over man.
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micky
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Joined: October 02 2005
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Points: 46833
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Posted: March 24 2007 at 01:22 |
TheProgtologist wrote:
micky wrote:
admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Say 10 Hail Geddy's and you MIGHT be forgiven.
If we did that we would have to do the same to quite a few bands here.
Like Yes and Genesis....................
And I share one of your prog sins,but I think VdGG is 100% crap.(sorry VdGG fans,let me have my moment,I don't knock bands I don't like that often). |
hahahha... I did say them immediately after posting when I got a newspaper to the back of the head hahahhaha and good to see you able to share your sins with the congregation.... we know all to well that our leaders are not without sin as well
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Fight Club
Prog Reviewer
Joined: May 21 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 572
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 23:30 |
Uhh... I don't like VDGG from what I've heard?
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Unix
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 11 2007
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 253
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 22:48 |
Revan wrote:
i have 1 very big sin. From the 889 albums (literally) i have in my computer in mp3, i only own two (sigur ros' takk and opeths damnation)
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I've never counted my albums, but I'm pretty much the same. of my close to 3000 songs on my computer, probably 150 of them are from CD's I own.
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bhikkhu
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Joined: April 06 2006
Location: Aē Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 5109
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 22:44 |
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Revan
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Joined: August 02 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 540
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 16:43 |
i have 1 very big sin. From the 889 albums (literally) i have in my computer in mp3, i only own two (sigur ros' takk and opeths damnation)
Edited by Revan - March 23 2007 at 16:44
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Chus
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 16 2006
Location: Venezuela
Status: Offline
Points: 1991
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 15:26 |
Never felt chills down my spine when I listened to Close To The Edge! that's it, I'm an emotionless creep I do get some when I listen to Firth Of Fifth though
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Jesus Gabriel
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Padraic
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Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31169
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:19 |
I don't know if this counts as guilty, but I would like to like Meshuggah since most of the PM fans here rave about them. Yet I listen to their samples and get absolutely nothing out of it.
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TheProgtologist
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Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
Status: Offline
Points: 27802
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:10 |
micky wrote:
admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Say 10 Hail Geddy's and you MIGHT be forgiven.
If we did that we would have to do the same to quite a few bands here.
Like Yes and Genesis....................
And I share one of your prog sins,but I think VdGG is 100% crap.(sorry VdGG fans,let me have my moment,I don't knock bands I don't like that often).
Edited by TheProgtologist - March 23 2007 at 14:12
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StyLaZyn
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 22 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4079
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 13:43 |
This is sad, but:
- I consider post-Fish Marillion wimpy.
- I dislike TMV.
- All my KC was given to me, copied, by a friend.
- (added w/ edit) I don't like Hackett's guitar tone prior to The Lamb and think it detracts from the music
- I hate wind instruments in Prog
Edited by StyLaZyn - March 23 2007 at 14:14
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micky
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Joined: October 02 2005
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Status: Offline
Points: 46833
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:34 |
the usual... my sins are well known to the forum at large since I believe in the notion of confessing my sins hahahhaah. admins..forgive me for thinking that Genesis fans consistantly overrate the quality.. and most importantly the importance of their albums. admins...forgive me for thinking that VDGG is 10% brilliance and 90% crap.. masterfully packaged in a dense forbidding format that leave many prog fans saying.. wow that was heavy.. I don't understand any of that.. it must be great admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related there I feel better... my sins are purged.. now in grand tradition... working on some new sins to confess to later
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Pnoom!
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Joined: September 02 2006
Location: OH
Status: Offline
Points: 4981
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:25 |
laplace wrote:
I downloaded most of what I listen to, I've no problem being iconoclastic and dismissive of classics, nor other people's favourites and I think classic rock is stupid. also, I'm never even going to attempt to enjoy jazz fusion.but I don't feel guilty about that.what I do feel guilty about is that I look at the "Raga Rock" category on this site mostly every day and I've never even dipped my toes into the water.
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Having heard only Quintessence - Quintessence from said genre... I must say that's no sin. Hoping to get some Shakti soon, however, to see if that remedies anything...
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 06:27 |
Jim Garten wrote:
I love Pink Floyd, I really do...
...but I think 'The Wall' is the main reason most people don't like prog; had it been the first prog album I'd heard, I would be going to Sugarbabes concerts nowadays; boring, self indulgent twaddle, and I also think Roger Waters is a git.
So, in conclusion...
+++deep breath+++
I AM A PROG FAN WHO HATES 'THE WALL'
That's better...
mind you, I enjoyed it when I saw them perform it in 1980 at Earls Court... |
I love The Wall!
It does seem to divide Floyd fans, but it was a hugely successful album. I believe most Floyd fans are not prog fans, and dont actually recognise Floyd as prog rock. Thats how they still get away with being able to headline Live8 and such events. Floyd are the link between the prog world and the stadium rock world. The Wall is pretty self indulgent, but to be fair most of the worlds biggest bands - U2, Radiohead, Coldplay etc are self indulgent and pretentious.
I reckon people hate prog because they were told too in the late 70's by the music press, and the notion just stuck. Apart from Floyd, most people have probably never heard any prog rock.
..but yes, I agree Waters is a git!
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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E-Dub
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Joined: February 24 2006
Location: Elkhorn, WI
Status: Offline
Points: 7910
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:08 |
moebius wrote:
I have never listened Selling England by the Pound, I have lost a first print of In The Court of The Crimson King CD and I donīt have any original cds by Yes or Gentle Giant...
Confess your Prog Sins!!!... I know that they are worst than mine. |
I just bid on a very rare Marillion CD entitled Rochester on ebay. Only a handful of copies were made and sent out to those who contributed to the 'tour fund' on the This Strange Engine tour. How'm I going to explain to the wife that I've spent over a $100 on a disc, provided I win it. I'm having buyer's guilt already.
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toolis
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Joined: April 26 2006
Location: MacedoniaGreece
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Points: 1678
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:05 |
i have a collection of 1300 plus, releases but about 30-40% of them are mp3s!!!!
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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laplace
Prog Reviewer
Joined: October 06 2005
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Status: Offline
Points: 7606
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:03 |
I downloaded most of what I listen to, I've no problem being iconoclastic and dismissive of classics, nor other people's favourites and I think classic rock is stupid. also, I'm never even going to attempt to enjoy jazz fusion. but I don't feel guilty about that.
what I do feel guilty about is that I look at the "Raga Rock" category on this site mostly every day and I've never even dipped my toes into the water.
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Atavachron
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Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
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Points: 65268
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Posted: March 23 2007 at 04:58 |
Jim Garten wrote:
mind you, I enjoyed it when I saw them perform it in 1980 at Earls Court... |
With the big wall on stage?
I like the Wall but it is self-indulgent twaddle.. I think I dig what the Wall is as a work of modern rock more than the actual music. It's like true musical theater at times.
Edited by Atavachron - March 23 2007 at 04:59
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