Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Bands, Artists and Genres Appreciation
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Prog Sins
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedProg Sins

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 6>
Author
Message Reverse Sort Order
Jimbo View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 28 2005
Location: Helsinki
Status: Offline
Points: 2818
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2007 at 09:37
- I find most Italian symphonic prog tame and unoriginal.
- I find most post-rock predictable and unimaginative.
- I find most prog-metal a bit soulless, too technical, but mostly just silly..
- I find most modern symphonic prog too AOR-tinged and cheesy.
- I find most RIO/Avant-prog self-indulgent and needlessly complex.
- I find most Neo-prog corny and regressive.
- I find most krautrock interesting, but ultimately just unlistenable hippie drivel.

I better stop before I get my ass kicked... Embarrassed

I suppose those are pretty big sins around here. As someone wise once said: "90 % of everything is crap." Wink (I'm just kidding, I think Confused)



Edited by Jimbo - March 24 2007 at 11:17
Back to Top
Draconean View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: November 04 2006
Location: Netherlands
Status: Offline
Points: 2012
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2007 at 07:08
Years ago I sold 2 LP's to a friend of mine.
When some time later I had second thoughts about selling them, I wasn't able to buy them back. And I never came across those albums anymore (LP or CD).

The first one was Mike Oldfield's "Collaborations" from his box-set "Boxed". IMO this album contains the best and most progressive guitar playing he ever did.

The other album was a Queen live bootleg from the pre-ANATO era called "Stunning". It had a very poor sound quality (illegal recording from the early 70's) but it contained 3 previously unreleased tracks. "See What A Fool I've Been" (yeah, right on the spot here! ), "Hangman" and a song whose title I've forgotten. "Hangman" was actually a very nice song.
I have been searching everywhere but I even couldn't find it in any collector's catalogue. I think it must be a real collector's item right now.
I'm running still,
I shall until,
one day I hope that I'll arrive
Back to Top
Atavachron View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Offline
Points: 65268
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2007 at 02:24
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

I don't know if this counts as guilty, but I would like to like Meshuggah since most of the PM fans here rave about them.  Yet I listen to their samples and get absolutely nothing out of it.


what do you expect from a band called Meshuggah..
Back to Top
Witchwoodhermit View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: February 23 2006
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 871
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2007 at 02:02
Ok, truly truly.
I'm not a huge fan of Rush. Some of it I get, but mostly, ugh I doesn't hit me.
I'm in the process of developing my Genesis, Yes ear. I wasn't fond of them in my younger years, being heavily indulged in Floyd, Sabbath and Tull. But now they are growing on me.
Caravan. -LOVE the debut. Hit and miss with the rest. I sadly regret  the missing year (1969). It could've been a bit more "Caravan" and little less "If I Could..."
There, that is my sin.Evil%20Smile
Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan
ringed by ants and musing over man.
Back to Top
micky View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 02 2005
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 46833
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 24 2007 at 01:22
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:



admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related

 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Cry
 
Say 10 Hail Geddy's and you MIGHT be forgiven.
 
If we did that we would have to do the same to quite a few bands here.
 
Like Yes and Genesis....................
 
And I share one of your prog sins,but I think VdGG is 100% crap.(sorry VdGG fans,let me have my moment,I don't knock bands I don't like that often).


hahahha... I did say them immediately after posting when I got a newspaper to the back of the head hahahhaha Wink

and good to see you able to share your sins with the congregation....  we know all to well that our leaders are not without sin as well LOL
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Back to Top
Fight Club View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer


Joined: May 21 2006
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 572
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 23:30
Uhh... I don't like VDGG from what I've heard?
Back to Top
Unix View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: March 11 2007
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 253
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 22:48
Originally posted by Revan Revan wrote:

i have 1 very big sin. From the 889 albums (literally) i have in my computer in mp3, i only own two (sigur ros' takk and opeths damnation)


I've never counted my albums, but I'm pretty much the same.  of my close to 3000 songs on my computer, probably 150 of them are from CD's I own.

Back to Top
bhikkhu View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: April 06 2006
Location: Aē Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 5109
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 22:44
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

the usual...  my sins are well known to the forum at large since I believe in the notion of confessing my sins hahahhaah.admins..forgive me for thinking that Genesis fans consistantly overrate the quality.. and most importantly the importance of their albums.  admins...forgive me for  thinking that  VDGG is 10% brilliance and 90% crap.. masterfully packaged in a dense forbidding format that leave many prog fans saying.. wow that was heavy.. I don't understand any of that.. it must be great LOLadmins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Relatedthere I feel better... my sins are purged.. now in grand tradition... working on some new sins to confess to later LOL


I absolutely disagree on Genesis (but you already know that), and I couldn't agree more on Rush.

Back to Top
Revan View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 02 2005
Status: Offline
Points: 540
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 16:43
i have 1 very big sin. From the 889 albums (literally) i have in my computer in mp3, i only own two (sigur ros' takk and opeths damnation)

Edited by Revan - March 23 2007 at 16:44

Back to Top
Chus View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: Venezuela
Status: Offline
Points: 1991
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 15:26
Never felt chills down my spine when I listened to Close To The Edge! that's it, I'm an emotionless creepWink I do get some when I listen to Firth Of Fifth though
Jesus Gabriel
Back to Top
Padraic View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31169
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:19
I don't know if this counts as guilty, but I would like to like Meshuggah since most of the PM fans here rave about them.  Yet I listen to their samples and get absolutely nothing out of it.
Back to Top
TheProgtologist View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin

Joined: May 23 2005
Location: Baltimore,Md US
Status: Offline
Points: 27802
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:10
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:



admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related

 
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Cry
 
Say 10 Hail Geddy's and you MIGHT be forgiven.
 
If we did that we would have to do the same to quite a few bands here.
 
Like Yes and Genesis....................
 
And I share one of your prog sins,but I think VdGG is 100% crap.(sorry VdGG fans,let me have my moment,I don't knock bands I don't like that often).


Edited by TheProgtologist - March 23 2007 at 14:12


Back to Top
StyLaZyn View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: November 22 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 4079
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 13:43

This is sad, but:

  • I consider post-Fish Marillion wimpy.
  • I dislike TMV.
  • All my KC was given to me, copied, by a friend.
  • (added w/ edit) I don't like Hackett's guitar tone prior to The Lamb and think it detracts from the music
  • I hate wind instruments in Prog


Edited by StyLaZyn - March 23 2007 at 14:14
Back to Top
micky View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 02 2005
Location: .
Status: Offline
Points: 46833
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:34
the usual...  my sins are well known to the forum at large since I believe in the notion of confessing my sins hahahhaah.

admins..forgive me for thinking that Genesis fans consistantly overrate the quality.. and most importantly the importance of their albums. 

admins...forgive me for  thinking that  VDGG is 10% brilliance and 90% crap.. masterfully packaged in a dense forbidding format that leave many prog fans saying.. wow that was heavy.. I don't understand any of that.. it must be great LOL

admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related

there I feel better... my sins are purged.. now in grand tradition... working on some new sins to confess to later LOL
The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Back to Top
Pnoom! View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: September 02 2006
Location: OH
Status: Offline
Points: 4981
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:25
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

I downloaded most of what I listen to, I've no problem being iconoclastic and dismissive of classics, nor other people's favourites and I think classic rock is stupid. also, I'm never even going to attempt to enjoy jazz fusion.but I don't feel guilty about that.what I do feel guilty about is that I look at the "Raga Rock" category on this site mostly every day and I've never even dipped my toes into the water.


Having heard only Quintessence - Quintessence from said genre... I must say that's no sin. Hoping to get some Shakti soon, however, to see if that remedies anything...
Back to Top
Blacksword View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 06:27
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

I love Pink Floyd, I really do...

...but I think 'The Wall' is the main reason most people don't like prog; had it been the first prog album I'd heard, I would be going to Sugarbabes concerts nowadays; boring, self indulgent twaddle, and I also think Roger Waters is a git.

So, in conclusion...

+++deep breath+++

I AM A PROG FAN WHO HATES 'THE WALL'

That's better...




mind you, I enjoyed it when I saw them perform it in 1980 at Earls Court...


I love The Wall!

It does seem to divide Floyd fans, but it was a hugely successful album. I believe most Floyd fans are not prog fans, and dont actually recognise Floyd as prog rock. Thats how they still get away with being able to headline Live8 and such events. Floyd are the link between the prog world and the stadium rock world. The Wall is pretty self indulgent, but to be fair most of the worlds biggest bands - U2, Radiohead, Coldplay etc are self indulgent and pretentious.

I reckon people hate prog because they were told too in the late 70's by the music press, and the notion just stuck. Apart from Floyd, most people have probably never heard any prog rock.

..but yes, I agree Waters is a git!
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Back to Top
E-Dub View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 24 2006
Location: Elkhorn, WI
Status: Offline
Points: 7910
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:08
Originally posted by moebius moebius wrote:

I have never listened Selling England by the Pound, I have lost a first print of In The Court of The Crimson King CD and I donīt have any original cds by Yes or Gentle Giant...


Confess your Prog Sins!!!... I know that they are worst than mine.


I just bid on a very rare Marillion CD entitled Rochester on ebay. Only a handful of copies were made and sent out to those who contributed to the 'tour fund' on the This Strange Engine tour. How'm I going to explain to the wife that I've spent over a $100 on a disc, provided I win it. I'm having buyer's guilt already.

E
Back to Top
toolis View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 26 2006
Location: MacedoniaGreece
Status: Offline
Points: 1678
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:05

i have a collection of 1300 plus, releases but about 30-40% of them are mp3s!!!!
-music is like pornography...

sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...



-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
Back to Top
laplace View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: October 06 2005
Location: popupControl();
Status: Offline
Points: 7606
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:03
I downloaded most of what I listen to, I've no problem being iconoclastic and dismissive of classics, nor other people's favourites and I think classic rock is stupid. also, I'm never even going to attempt to enjoy jazz fusion.
but I don't feel guilty about that.

what I do feel guilty about is that I look at the "Raga Rock" category on this site mostly every day and I've never even dipped my toes into the water.
Back to Top
Atavachron View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Offline
Points: 65268
Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 23 2007 at 04:58
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:


mind you, I enjoyed it when I saw them perform it in 1980 at Earls Court...


With the big wall on stage?

I like the Wall but it is self-indulgent twaddle.. I think I dig what the Wall is as a work of modern rock more than the actual music. It's like true musical theater at times.






Edited by Atavachron - March 23 2007 at 04:59
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12345 6>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.137 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.