Prog Sins
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Topic: Prog Sins
Posted By: moebius
Subject: Prog Sins
Date Posted: March 21 2007 at 22:52
I have never listened Selling England by the Pound, I have lost a first print of In The Court of The Crimson King CD and I don´t have any original cds by Yes or Gentle Giant...
Confess your Prog Sins!!!... I know that they are worst than mine.
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: March 21 2007 at 22:55
Of the top 20 progrock studio albums (according to ratings on this site), I only listen to one regularly (JT's Thick as a Brick).
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Posted By: Unix
Date Posted: March 21 2007 at 22:57
I don't like Genesis or VDGG (From what I've heard)
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 21 2007 at 23:03
I don't like Genesis, I like some Yes but not too much, I don't like Pink Floyd, I listen to Kansas, and I do not like prog metal (its boring and repetitive.)
Oh and I'm not a musician. Maybe that explains all of the above.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 21 2007 at 23:19
i have never heard a complete Iron Maiden album (not prog anyway)
that`s the first i thought....
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: March 21 2007 at 23:23
I don't own a real copy of a Pink Floyd album
I still haven't heard The Lamb
I know there's more, but that;s all I can come up with
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: March 21 2007 at 23:35
i don't like Yes, KC, Pink Floyd,Tull,Zappa, and many more...
haven't heard Genesis' SEbtP, The Lamb, and NC
someone please atone my 'sins'
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 01:22
i have NO idea how sounds:
GNIDROLOG, LARD FREE, AGITATION FREE,
POPOL VUH, RESIDENTS, VANILLA FUDGE
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 01:36
Let's see...
1. I don't like VdGG
2. I don't like Pink Floyd
3. I don't have any GG original album
4. I LOVE some poppish albums made by prog bands such as Peter Gabriel 'So', Yes '90125' and 'Big Generator' (in fact I have both on vynil), Genesis 'We Can't Dance', etc...
5. Once I had to sell part of my vynil colection... I loose albums like 'The Steve Howe Album', King Crimson 'Three of a Perfect Pair', Rick Wakeman 'White Rock', Yes 'Yessongs', Mike Oldfield 'Incantations'... (During those years I had buy most of them again, but is not the same)... SHAME ON ME!!!
That's what I remember right now...
(I'm such a sinner and I will burn in Prog Hell!)
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Posted By: asimplemistake
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 01:44
Well for me, I dont listen to recordings that are too old cause I like the sounds of newer production.
I do though enjoy VDGG, but I do not like Yes, King Crimson, and a lot of other stuff that are important bands in prog.
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 02:01
I don't like
Pink Floyd
Yes
Genesis
Gentle Giant
Jethro Tull
VDG
Faust
Can
Rush
Doors
Tangerine Dream
Emerson, Lake, Palmer
THE WORST OF ALL
KING CRIMSON!!!
Audience
Cream
Family
Love
Jefferson Airplane
Caravan
Strawbs
Soft Machine
Gong
Egg
Amon Duul II
Pretty Things
Procol Harum
Miles Davis
Ornette Coleman
John Mayall
Beach Boys
Captain Beefheart
Frank Zappa
Beatles
Hate them all.
------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan
ringed by ants and musing over man.
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Posted By: Failcore
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 02:48
Man is there anything you do like? Pretty much ever group if come across can be made as a combination from those bands.
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Posted By: kiligian
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 02:55
sins of mine i like aor and hard rock cds more now then prog stufff.....
i have over 20,000 cds from promos cd r from firneds that i rarely listen to more then once.
except rush...
i used to like 70s prog alot i rarely listen to it anymore lots of them sit in there cases i own lol...
i also dload prog rock music on occasion if i cant wait for it to ocme
out. or get promo to review on my up-coming webzine with friend im
collaborating with.
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 02:56
Deathrabbit wrote:
Man is there anything you do like? Pretty much ever group if come across can be made as a combination from those bands. |
Agree...
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 03:07
Kaz and Witchwood...who DO you like?
As for me...too many essential albums not enjoyed (Close, Pawn) or owed (Octopus, Tales). I could use some more Procol Harum, since I seem to be one of their key defenders (not that it comes up too much).
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 03:08
I've got it! You guys like ELP! That's cool, I'm headbangin' away to Brain Salad Surgery myself right now myself...
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:13
In my case, what many people would consider a 'prog sin' is my not liking Genesis' "Foxtrot" at all. Another one might be my dislike of Marillion's "Misplaced Childhood" - and, of course, at least to some forum members, the fact I've never, ever been able to get into Dream Theater, in spite of owning six albums by them.
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Posted By: Space_Captain
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:15
I don't think the 'Canterbury Scene' should be a genre listed on this site.
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:16
The Whistler wrote:
Kaz and Witchwood...who DO you like?
As for me...too many essential albums not enjoyed (Close, Pawn) or owed (Octopus, Tales). I could use some more Procol Harum, since I seem to be one of their key defenders (not that it comes up too much). |
well, actually i prefer more modern stuffs, like... Dream Theater, Kamelot,etc... mostly prog metal stuffs too
from the classic era, i like Genesis though
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:20
I don't own a real copy of Opeth or 2 of the 4 King Crimson alubms I have.
I dislike Close to the Edge, its too boring for me. I don't listen to RPI as much as I should.
I listen to Rush too much (if that can be a sin - I'm stopping for a month or so until the new release anyways) and I don't own a real copy of most of the Rush albums I listen to (well I don't own a copy of 5 Rush albums - and those copies are all vinyls, I'm trying to get them all on CD)
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:20
kazansky wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
Kaz and Witchwood...who DO you like?
As for me...too many essential albums not enjoyed (Close, Pawn) or owed (Octopus, Tales). I could use some more Procol Harum, since I seem to be one of their key defenders (not that it comes up too much). | well, actually i prefer more modern stuffs, like... Dream Theater, Kamelot,etc... mostly prog metal stuffs too
from the classic era, i like Genesis though |
And Emerson Lake and Palmer too, right? Don't worry. Know one has to no.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:22
The Whistler wrote:
kazansky wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
Kaz and Witchwood...who DO you like?
As for me...too many essential albums not enjoyed (Close, Pawn) or owed (Octopus, Tales). I could use some more Procol Harum, since I seem to be one of their key defenders (not that it comes up too much). | well, actually i prefer more modern stuffs, like... Dream Theater, Kamelot,etc... mostly prog metal stuffs too from the classic era, i like Genesis though |
And Emerson Lake and Palmer too, right? Don't worry. Know one has to no. |
i don't like ELP as well
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:23
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. (wink)
Seriously though, I betcha WitchwoodDude LOVES 'em.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:23
So prog sins ended up just being a thread where people can say what they don't like?
After checking out maybe ten-fifteen neo-prog bands, I dismissed the whole genre. And it felt good.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:24
The Whistler wrote:
I've got it! You guys like ELP! That's cool, I'm headbangin' away to Brain Salad Surgery myself right now myself... | actually ELP is on Witch's list
I still haven't heard Lizards or Islands.
moebius, love your avatar.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:26
Rocktopus wrote:
So prog sins ended up just being a thread where people can say what they don't like?
After checking out maybe ten-fifteen neo-prog bands, I dismissed the whole genre. And it felt good.
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Well, I think the point of the "sins" thread is that you feel guilty about it. You know, like the Catholic church! Hey Aqualung.
For example: "I've never been that fond of Yes. Sorry, but it's true. Even if I really liked the Yes Album, if it hadn't been my first buy, I might never have gotten a second."
(shrug/smile)
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:26
I don't know if this would be a sin but I own more Phil Collins Genesis than Gabriels Genesis. And I do enjoy the Phil Collins stuff almost as much as the Gabriel stuff.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:27
Atavachron wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
I've got it! You guys like ELP! That's cool, I'm headbangin' away to Brain Salad Surgery myself right now myself... | actually ELP is on Witch's list
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Oh. Must have missed it.
By which of course I mean, "Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight." From now on, whenever I see him, I'll say, "Hey! How's that Tarkus you keep in your yard doin'?"
(am I a prog reviewer yet?)
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:29
The Whistler wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
So prog sins ended up just being a thread where people can say what they don't like?
After checking out maybe ten-fifteen neo-prog bands, I dismissed the whole genre. And it felt good.
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Well, I think the point of the "sins" thread is that you feel guilty about it. You know, like the Catholic church! Hey Aqualung.
For example: "I've never been that fond of Yes. Sorry, but it's true. Even if I really liked the Yes Album, if it hadn't been my first buy, I might never have gotten a second."
(shrug/smile) |
I understand the point, just noticed how it ended up being used.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:32
My biggest prog sins?
1. I've got 4 Pink Floyd albums and I really can only listen to one. I've got them because they're Pink Floyd, but i can't stand the band nor the stuff they call music.
2. I recently dropped my Misplaced Childhood cd on the floor and absentmindedly rolled over it with my chair. I only noticed it when it cracked loudly. I hate myself for that, and for not owning the record anymore Accidents are not sins though, are they?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:35
Rocktopus wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
Rocktopus wrote:
So prog sins ended up just being a thread where people can say what they don't like?
After checking out maybe ten-fifteen neo-prog bands, I dismissed the whole genre. And it felt good.
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Well, I think the point of the "sins" thread is that you feel guilty about it. You know, like the Catholic church! Hey Aqualung.
For example: "I've never been that fond of Yes. Sorry, but it's true. Even if I really liked the Yes Album, if it hadn't been my first buy, I might never have gotten a second."
(shrug/smile) |
I understand the point, just noticed how it ended up being used.
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Oh I know. I just wanted an excuse to pull a shrug/smile/bash Close the Edge. And remind everyone about how much ELP rocks, and how I don't own Welcome Back My Friends/Tarkus/ELP yet. /Love Beach/Love Bach.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:37
Passionist wrote:
My biggest prog sins?
1. I've got 4 Pink Floyd albums and I really can only listen to one. I've got them because they're Pink Floyd, but i can't stand the band nor the stuff they call music.
2. I recently dropped my Misplaced Childhood cd on the floor and absentmindedly rolled over it with my chair. I only noticed it when it cracked loudly. I hate myself for that, and for not owning the record anymore Accidents are not sins though, are they? |
I have "lost" so many Tull covers in the same way. Minstrel, Songs from the Wood and Broadsword are all unattatched, and the Passion Play liner notes seem to have vanished from the face of the earth. Most distressing that.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:43
Quite ridiculous thread, in my opinion. Why should anyone feel guilty for not having listened to a certain album or for not liking a certain band?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:46
Philéas wrote:
Quite ridiculous thread, in my opinion. Why should anyone feel guilty for not having listened to a certain album or for not liking a certain band? |
Because it's human nature to feel guilt, and because we all know that Brain Salad Surgery is a good album, even if we're scared to admit it. Deep inside. And did those feet.
------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:51
Space_Captain wrote:
I don't think the 'Canterbury Scene' should be a genre listed on this site.
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Now here's a real sinner. Why on earth would you say that?
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:51
The Whistler wrote:
Because it's human nature to feel guilt, and because we all know that Brain Salad Surgery is a good album, even if we're scared to admit it. Deep inside. And did those feet. |
I haven't heard Brain Salad Surgery. Should I feel guilty? If yes, why?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:55
Because the music didn't come from Cantabury England AND Brain Salad Surgery is hardly a bunch of BSS. It's really quite sexy. Unless you already hate ELP (or are just scared to admit you're in love with them), in which case, yeah, you probably won't like 'em at all. It hardly pisses ME off at least, at least, not until towards the end, but it's sorta redeemed, so it's all good. The first bits are mostly all great anyway.
HEY! ROCKTOPUS! THE "PROG SINS" THREAD HAS BECOME A "DEFEND THE PROG YOU DON'T HATE" THREAD!
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:58
I hate Yes, primarily because of Jon Anderson's monotonous drawl and nonsensical lyrics.
There.
I feel better now
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 04:58
@Whistler: I used to like ELP a lot after I first heard them. Then I got tired of them after a month or so, and the interest hasn't come back since. I never managed to get hold of BSS, and I doubt I will bother nowadays. And I don't feel guilty about it. I mean, why should I listen to music other people think I should listen to, and feel guilty if I don't? I like to listen to music I like.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 05:00
Philéas wrote:
@Whistler: I used to like ELP a lot after I first heard them. Then I got tired of them after a month or so, and the interest hasn't come back since. I never managed to get hold of BSS, and I doubt I will bother nowadays. And I don't feel guilty about it. I mean, why should I listen to music other people think I should listen to, and feel guilty if I don't? I like to listen to music I like. |
Holy crap son, you listen to music you like AND you're at this prog site? This place was made for people who hate their music and want to talk about it! Hell, I hate half the stuff I own...
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 05:05
Philéas wrote:
The Whistler wrote:
Because it's human nature to feel guilt, and because we all know that Brain Salad Surgery is a good album, even if we're scared to admit it. Deep inside. And did those feet. |
I haven't heard Brain Salad Surgery. Should I feel guilty? If yes, why?
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I really think Brain Salad Surgery is awful. And I don't know its good deep inside. I'm more scared I'd feel its even worse if I heard it again now, than when I gave it that two star rating.
Oh, here's my biggest sin. Someone managed to talk me into joining them on Dream Theater concert once. (In my defense I hadn't really heard them yet). I can never forgive myself.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 17:13
I have never got into King Crimson or ELP - a few select tracks for each, but beyond that they do little for me.
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 20:28
[QUOTE=The Whistler]
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. (wink)
Seriously though, I betcha WitchwoodDude LOVES 'em.
Who loves ya' baby.
------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan
ringed by ants and musing over man.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:10
I lost my vinyl collection a few years back. It was rather large, and contained original issues of Beatles albums, Yes, Rush, The Doors, Genesis, Donovan, Peter Gabriel, and many more.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 22:13
I just turned of Devin Townsend to listen to Nightwish- why? I just don't know.........
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Posted By: Shwang_Shwinga
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 23:38
Confession: I hate King Crimson. I hate Camel. I hate the Beatles and Gentle Giant. I basically hate all of the older Prog bands except for Rush and Pink Floyd. I also have utter disdain for Radiohead and Spock's Beard. Ambient space rock pisses me off on a massive level. I hate that 35745748 hour long Green Carnation song. It came on my Last.FM radio once and I banned it.
Also, when people on ProgArchives diss Tool or DT or sh*t I like, I get mad and call them old-prog-loving snobs.
Yeah, and I own every KoRn, Queens of the Stone Age, and System of a Down album. Very not-prog, but some of my favorite work.
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 23:41
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Posted By: Shwang_Shwinga
Date Posted: March 22 2007 at 23:44
Trust me, its just as funny to me as it is to you.
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Posted By: razifa
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 01:39
I don't like "A trick of the tail" by Genesis, even though Genesis is one of my fav bands.
I have never heard to "Divine Wings of Tragedy" nor "Twilight in the Olympus" , I simple have no idea how they sound.
I hate Everon and Twelfth Night
I hate Octavarium above all things
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 04:40
I love Pink Floyd, I really do...
...but I think 'The Wall' is the main reason most people don't like prog; had it been the first prog album I'd heard, I would be going to Sugarbabes concerts nowadays; boring, self indulgent twaddle, and I also think Roger Waters is a git.
So, in conclusion...
+++deep breath+++
I AM A PROG FAN WHO HATES 'THE WALL'
That's better...
mind you, I enjoyed it when I saw them perform it in 1980 at Earls Court...
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 04:47
Shwang_Shwinga wrote:
Confession: I hate King Crimson. I hate Camel. I hate the Beatles and Gentle Giant. I basically hate all of the older Prog bands except for Rush and Pink Floyd. I also have utter disdain for Radiohead and Spock's Beard. Ambient space rock pisses me off on a massive level. I hate that 35745748 hour long Green Carnation song. It came on my Last.FM radio once and I banned it.
Also, when people on ProgArchives diss Tool or DT or sh*t I like, I get mad and call them old-prog-loving snobs.
Yeah, and I own every KoRn, Queens of the Stone Age, and System of a Down album. Very not-prog, but some of my favorite work.
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Hey sweet sixteen. I wouldn't be surprised if what you think of as your prog sins will change quite a bit over the next couple of years.
------------- Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 04:50
Blacksword wrote:
I have never got into King Crimson or ELP - a few select tracks for each, but beyond that they do little for me. |
Phew...... so I am not the only one then.......what a relief, I was beginning to feel like a leper.........
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 04:58
Jim Garten wrote:
mind you, I enjoyed it when I saw them perform it in 1980 at Earls Court... |
With the big wall on stage?
I like the Wall but it is self-indulgent twaddle.. I think I dig what the Wall is as a work of modern rock more than the actual music. It's like true musical theater at times.
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:03
I downloaded most of what I listen to, I've no problem being iconoclastic and dismissive of classics, nor other people's favourites and I think classic rock is stupid. also, I'm never even going to attempt to enjoy jazz fusion. but I don't feel guilty about that.
what I do feel guilty about is that I look at the "Raga Rock" category on this site mostly every day and I've never even dipped my toes into the water.
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:05
i have a collection of 1300 plus, releases but about 30-40% of them are mp3s!!!!
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 05:08
moebius wrote:
I have never listened Selling England by the Pound, I have lost a first print of In The Court of The Crimson King CD and I don´t have any original cds by Yes or Gentle Giant...
Confess your Prog Sins!!!... I know that they are worst than mine. |
I just bid on a very rare Marillion CD entitled Rochester on ebay. Only a handful of copies were made and sent out to those who contributed to the 'tour fund' on the This Strange Engine tour. How'm I going to explain to the wife that I've spent over a $100 on a disc, provided I win it. I'm having buyer's guilt already.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 06:27
Jim Garten wrote:
I love Pink Floyd, I really do...
...but I think 'The Wall' is the main reason most people don't like prog; had it been the first prog album I'd heard, I would be going to Sugarbabes concerts nowadays; boring, self indulgent twaddle, and I also think Roger Waters is a git.
So, in conclusion...
+++deep breath+++
I AM A PROG FAN WHO HATES 'THE WALL'
That's better...
mind you, I enjoyed it when I saw them perform it in 1980 at Earls Court... |
I love The Wall!
It does seem to divide Floyd fans, but it was a hugely successful album. I believe most Floyd fans are not prog fans, and dont actually recognise Floyd as prog rock. Thats how they still get away with being able to headline Live8 and such events. Floyd are the link between the prog world and the stadium rock world. The Wall is pretty self indulgent, but to be fair most of the worlds biggest bands - U2, Radiohead, Coldplay etc are self indulgent and pretentious.
I reckon people hate prog because they were told too in the late 70's by the music press, and the notion just stuck. Apart from Floyd, most people have probably never heard any prog rock.
..but yes, I agree Waters is a git!
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:25
laplace wrote:
I downloaded most of what I listen to, I've no problem being iconoclastic and dismissive of classics, nor other people's favourites and I think classic rock is stupid. also, I'm never even going to attempt to enjoy jazz fusion.but I don't feel guilty about that.what I do feel guilty about is that I look at the "Raga Rock" category on this site mostly every day and I've never even dipped my toes into the water.
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Having heard only Quintessence - Quintessence from said genre... I must say that's no sin. Hoping to get some Shakti soon, however, to see if that remedies anything...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 11:34
the usual... my sins are well known to the forum at large since I believe in the notion of confessing my sins hahahhaah.
admins..forgive me for thinking that Genesis fans consistantly overrate the quality.. and most importantly the importance of their albums.
admins...forgive me for thinking that VDGG is 10% brilliance and 90% crap.. masterfully packaged in a dense forbidding format that leave many prog fans saying.. wow that was heavy.. I don't understand any of that.. it must be great
admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related
there I feel better... my sins are purged.. now in grand tradition... working on some new sins to confess to later
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Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 13:43
This is sad, but:
- I consider post-Fish Marillion wimpy.
- I dislike TMV.
- All my KC was given to me, copied, by a friend.
- (added w/ edit) I don't like Hackett's guitar tone prior to The Lamb and think it detracts from the music
- I hate wind instruments in Prog
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:10
micky wrote:
admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Say 10 Hail Geddy's and you MIGHT be forgiven.
If we did that we would have to do the same to quite a few bands here.
Like Yes and Genesis....................
And I share one of your prog sins,but I think VdGG is 100% crap.(sorry VdGG fans,let me have my moment,I don't knock bands I don't like that often).
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 14:19
I don't know if this counts as guilty, but I would like to like Meshuggah since most of the PM fans here rave about them. Yet I listen to their samples and get absolutely nothing out of it.
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 15:26
Never felt chills down my spine when I listened to Close To The Edge! that's it, I'm an emotionless creep I do get some when I listen to Firth Of Fifth though
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Posted By: Revan
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 16:43
i have 1 very big sin. From the 889 albums (literally) i have in my computer in mp3, i only own two (sigur ros' takk and opeths damnation)
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 22:44
micky wrote:
the usual... my sins are well known to the forum at large since I believe in the notion of confessing my sins hahahhaah.admins..forgive me for thinking that Genesis fans consistantly overrate the quality.. and most importantly the importance of their albums. admins...forgive me for thinking that VDGG is 10% brilliance and 90% crap.. masterfully packaged in a dense forbidding format that leave many prog fans saying.. wow that was heavy.. I don't understand any of that.. it must be great admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Relatedthere I feel better... my sins are purged.. now in grand tradition... working on some new sins to confess to later
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I absolutely disagree on Genesis (but you already know that), and I couldn't agree more on Rush.
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Posted By: Unix
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 22:48
Revan wrote:
i have 1 very big sin. From the 889 albums (literally) i have in my computer in mp3, i only own two (sigur ros' takk and opeths damnation)
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I've never counted my albums, but I'm pretty much the same. of my close to 3000 songs on my computer, probably 150 of them are from CD's I own.
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Posted By: Fight Club
Date Posted: March 23 2007 at 23:30
Uhh... I don't like VDGG from what I've heard?
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 01:22
TheProgtologist wrote:
micky wrote:
admins....forgive me for thinking that Rush post Hemispheres is Prog Related at best and AOR at worst..and that there is a case, a strong one for moving the beloved Rush to Prog Related
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Say 10 Hail Geddy's and you MIGHT be forgiven.
If we did that we would have to do the same to quite a few bands here.
Like Yes and Genesis....................
And I share one of your prog sins,but I think VdGG is 100% crap.(sorry VdGG fans,let me have my moment,I don't knock bands I don't like that often). |
hahahha... I did say them immediately after posting when I got a newspaper to the back of the head hahahhaha
and good to see you able to share your sins with the congregation.... we know all to well that our leaders are not without sin as well
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 02:02
Ok, truly truly.
I'm not a huge fan of Rush. Some of it I get, but mostly, ugh I doesn't hit me.
I'm in the process of developing my Genesis, Yes ear. I wasn't fond of them in my younger years, being heavily indulged in Floyd, Sabbath and Tull. But now they are growing on me.
Caravan. -LOVE the debut. Hit and miss with the rest. I sadly regret the missing year (1969). It could've been a bit more "Caravan" and little less "If I Could..."
There, that is my sin.
------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan
ringed by ants and musing over man.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 02:24
NaturalScience wrote:
I don't know if this counts as guilty, but I would like to like Meshuggah since most of the PM fans here rave about them. Yet I listen to their samples and get absolutely nothing out of it.
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what do you expect from a band called Meshuggah..
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Posted By: Draconean
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 07:08
Years ago I sold 2 LP's to a friend of mine.
When some time later I had second thoughts about selling them, I wasn't able to buy them back. And I never came across those albums anymore (LP or CD).
The first one was Mike Oldfield's "Collaborations" from his box-set "Boxed". IMO this album contains the best and most progressive guitar playing he ever did.
The other album was a Queen live bootleg from the pre-ANATO era called "Stunning". It had a very poor sound quality (illegal recording from the early 70's) but it contained 3 previously unreleased tracks. "See What A Fool I've Been" (yeah, right on the spot here! ), "Hangman" and a song whose title I've forgotten. "Hangman" was actually a very nice song.
I have been searching everywhere but I even couldn't find it in any collector's catalogue. I think it must be a real collector's item right now.
------------- I'm running still,
I shall until,
one day I hope that I'll arrive
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 09:37
- I find most Italian symphonic prog tame and unoriginal. - I find most post-rock predictable and unimaginative. - I find most prog-metal a bit soulless, too technical, but mostly just silly.. - I find most modern symphonic prog too AOR-tinged and cheesy. - I find most RIO/Avant-prog self-indulgent and needlessly complex. - I find most Neo-prog corny and regressive. - I find most krautrock interesting, but ultimately just unlistenable hippie drivel.
I better stop before I get my ass kicked...
I suppose those are pretty big sins around here. As someone wise once said: "90 % of everything is crap." (I'm just kidding, I think )
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Posted By: Revan
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 12:55
Jimbo wrote:
- I find most post-rock predictable and unimaginative.
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then there is no point in listening a song twice.
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Posted By: william314159
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 13:01
i don't like singers- except for gabriel
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Posted By: Revan
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 13:03
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 13:11
Jim Garten wrote:
I love Pink Floyd, I really do...
...but I think 'The Wall' is the main reason most people don't like prog; had it been the first prog album I'd heard, I would be going to Sugarbabes concerts nowadays; boring, self indulgent twaddle, and I also think Roger Waters is a git.
So, in conclusion...
+++deep breath+++
I AM A PROG FAN WHO HATES 'THE WALL'
That's better...
mind you, I enjoyed it when I saw them perform it in 1980 at Earls Court... |
Me too - I could have respected Roger Waters if, after foisting a massively overblown double album about how awful it is being a rock star onto the general public, had retired from the music biz entirely and become a farmer or a hermit or something. I mean the album would still be crap, but at least it would have a point. But no, we got the Final Cut followed by a series of forgettable and largely incomprehensible solo albums and he still hasn't cheered up.
Mind you, Comfortably Numb is a damned fine song.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 14:26
I used to be in the Prog-Metal team for half a year, and yet I either haven't heard or don't care about the most popular bands of the genre.
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 14:55
Trickster F. wrote:
I used to be in the Prog-Metal team for half a year, and yet I either haven't heard or don't care about the most popular bands of the genre. |
, you haven`t missed anything good
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 15:01
I know.
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: March 24 2007 at 17:00
Posted By: Kid-A
Date Posted: March 25 2007 at 07:24
I hate Fish's lyrics because I find them rediculously OTT
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 01:39
What a riot!
Whistler, keep up the good fight bro.
For the record, my casual-didn't mean any harm-list, was a JOKE.
The bands I listed I love, except Rush (file under tolerate), and highly respect.
E.L.P, my taste is growing. Love the debut. Brain Salad? Tocotta, the greatest piece of rock ever composed.
Hey? where the hell is my LAST post?
Somethin's rotten in Denmark here.
------------- Here I'm shadowed by a dragon fig tree's fan
ringed by ants and musing over man.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 04:01
I'VE GOT ONE! Fifth of Furth. Never saw the big deal.
Yeah. Good fight. If you excuse me, I hear a proto-hammond organ solo screaming for aid.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 04:04
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 04:05
BRAN SALAD SUGRY 4EVAH!
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 06:26
-I agree with the general statements about Prog Metal -I love pink Floyd, but the 60's stuff is a load of crap to me -For that matter, all early 60's space rock is crap
And last but not least....
-I listen to Genre's other then Prog! *Gasp!*
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Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 15:01
I like Train of Thought.
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Posted By: darkmatter
Date Posted: March 26 2007 at 15:51
billbuckner wrote:
I like Train of Thought.
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That's not a sin, that's a good album!
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 03:54
Syzygy wrote:
I could have respected Roger Waters if, after foisting a massively overblown double album about how awful it is being a rock star onto the general public, had retired from the music biz entirely and become a farmer or a hermit or something. I mean the album would still be crap, but at least it would have a point. But no, we got the Final Cut followed by a series of forgettable and largely incomprehensible solo albums and he still hasn't cheered up |
Absolutely!
Mr Waters, if you're out there...
For all our sakes...
CHEER
THE
F
UP!
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 04:14
I own a Coheed and Cambria album and like a few songs.
Apart from that, I'm sin free.
Oh wait...
Godspeed You Black Emperor! are boring and over-indulgently naff.
I own a VdGG Mug, t-shirt and keyring, as well as two The Long Hello vinyls.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 04:49
Kid-A wrote:
I hate Fish's lyrics because I find them rediculously OTT |
Over the top of what?
At least his English is of a good standard, with no spelling mistakes...
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 07:09
PWND
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Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: March 27 2007 at 07:11
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 03:23
Jim Garten wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
I could have respected Roger Waters if, after foisting a massively overblown double album about how awful it is being a rock star onto the general public, had retired from the music biz entirely and become a farmer or a hermit or something. I mean the album would still be crap, but at least it would have a point. But no, we got the Final Cut followed by a series of forgettable and largely incomprehensible solo albums and he still hasn't cheered up |
Absolutely!
Mr Waters, if you're out there...
For all our sakes...
CHEER
THE
F
UP! |
Fools! Know ye naught that if Roger Waters cheered the F up, then the world as we know it would come to an end? Puppies would lie down with kittens!
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 03:37
darkmatter wrote:
billbuckner wrote:
I like Train of Thought.
| That's not a sin, that's a good album! |
That's not a good album, that's a great album!!!
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sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 03:40
toolis wrote:
darkmatter wrote:
billbuckner wrote:
I like Train of Thought.
| That's not a sin, that's a good album! |
That's not a good album, that's a great album!!! |
f**kin' flawless album!
What is it?
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 03:41
i second that.. and FYI, for many of us "The Wall...", The Pros And Cons...", "Amused To Death" and "Ca Ira" are true masterpieces...
------------- -music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 03:43
Geck0 wrote:
Godspeed You Black Emperor! are boring and over-indulgently naff. |
Geck0 wrote:
Godspeed You Black Emperor! are boring and over-indulgently naff. |
Geck0 wrote:
Godspeed You Black Emperor! are boring and over-indulgently naff. |
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Posted By: lord_pwnage
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 08:40
Dream Theater is the best prog band ever, but i got only 6 of the 10+ cd's i got from them original (*ashamed*)
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: March 29 2007 at 11:56
lord_pwnage wrote:
Dream Theater is the best prog band ever, but i got only 6 of the 10+ cd's i got from them original (*ashamed*) |
You should be ashamed of considering them the best Prog band ever instead of being ashamed of not owning all their albums.
(j/k)
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