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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 07:02
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:


SIGUR ROS - Takk.Nice,but I expected more...must get something else

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Yeah, you should get either the symbol album or Agaetis Burjyuin, whatever you spell either of them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:59
boy...I'm total newbie to Post-Rock,but GYBE's SLEEP is constantly playing in my head for last 2 months!!!Especially that break from 18.01 to 20.42...

I adore GYBE's Lift your Skinny Fists,it'smy fave 2000 release and one of the favouritest albums ever.The first I heard from Post-Rock and the best(haven't heard anything better yet).Purchased another albums of them...can't wait 'till the parcel comes!!!
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SIGUR ROS - Takk.Nice,but I expected more...must get something else

EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY - The Rescue.Very good,mellow and HAPPY!!!Must get Millions...

OCEANSIZE - Effloresce.Nice,but not that good

BELL ORCHESTRE - Recording a Tape...Very good!!!

Haven't heard TORTOISE,MOGWAI,A SILVER MT.ZION,65DAYSOFSTATIC and other Greats.Would like toplay in a Post-Rock band of GYBE type...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 05:07
Hmm, I have only heard their latest, so I'm afraid I can't be of much assistance on this one. It's a fine album though, and should work as a starting point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 05:00
Hey guys, what should I get by Envy?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 04:54
Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

Originally posted by Bryan Bryan wrote:

The unfortunate part about post-rock is that there are legions of bands copying the sounds of the genre's big acts (GYBE, Explosions in the Sky and Mogwai), which has earned it sort of a bad reputation.  Here are some groups I would recommend who stear clear of this pitfall.

Tortoise - It could almost be said that they ARE one of the genre's big acts, but they're totally unique from the rest.
Envy - If you can stand some sceamed vocals, this is as beautiful and intense as music gets.  I hope to include them soon if the other post-rock team members are in agreement.
Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while.
Bell Orchestre - Upbeat post-rock?  It's as good a concept as it sounds.
Rachel's - A controversial entry amongst our team, it may be quite awhile before we actually see them included on the archives... but this is amazing, strongly neo-classical music which I've managed to absolutely fall in love with.
 
 
I am at a loss with this band.  Its an off-shoot of the Arcade fFire.  But to label tham as post-rock is a misnomer. 

Huh? Confused Care to elaborate on that a bit?

Anyway, back to the topic, Assaf and Bryan gave some excellent recommendations. Not much to add, there are indeed countless Explosions In The Sky/Mogwai clones out there, so you better check the aforementioned first before fully entering the scene.

World's End Girlfriend is pretty good and fairly original as well, and I seem to recall that Samuel Jackson Five sounded quite intriguing, although I haven't heard a full album by them yet.

Regarding Jaga Jazzist, I love them to bits, but I'm a bit torn about whether to consider them post-rock or not. Their sound does often veer towards post-rock (similar to Tortoise), but they're still essentially a jazz band IMO. Very innovative and progressive regardless of the genre though, and I definitely wouldn't mind seeing them on here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 02:16
Originally posted by moreitsythanyou moreitsythanyou wrote:

I love post rock. Was playing in a post rock group today, or something like that.
My favorite post rock group is Sigur Ros and recently, I've been getting in to some Explosions in the Sky.



Make sure you listen to Godspeed You! Black Emperor

They are very good as well.





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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:55
I love post rock. Was playing in a post rock group today, or something like that.
My favorite post rock group is Sigur Ros and recently, I've been getting in to some Explosions in the Sky.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:54
Originally posted by Bryan Bryan wrote:

The unfortunate part about post-rock is that there are legions of bands copying the sounds of the genre's big acts (GYBE, Explosions in the Sky and Mogwai), which has earned it sort of a bad reputation.  Here are some groups I would recommend who stear clear of this pitfall.

Tortoise - It could almost be said that they ARE one of the genre's big acts, but they're totally unique from the rest.
Envy - If you can stand some sceamed vocals, this is as beautiful and intense as music gets.  I hope to include them soon if the other post-rock team members are in agreement.
Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while.
Bell Orchestre - Upbeat post-rock?  It's as good a concept as it sounds.
Rachel's - A controversial entry amongst our team, it may be quite awhile before we actually see them included on the archives... but this is amazing, strongly neo-classical music which I've managed to absolutely fall in love with.
 
 
I am at a loss with this band.  Its an off-shoot of the Arcade fFire.  But to label tham as post-rock is a misnomer. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:15
btw if you ask me, Radiohead's Kid A and Amnesiac are pretty damn postrock as well......though not in a very direct way.........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:01
hehehe from the discussions above really seems that the term postrock really has evolved and changed over the years to allude mainly to guitar-based, epic sweeping instrumental rock music.  To the point where one of the most important and seminal postrock bands Tortoise gets called ambient-prog instead (tho that is technically not a wrong way to describe them if you had never heard the term postrock before)........
 
Postrock has always been a mixed bag of sounds, the point where rock music moved beyond 80s indie rock, hair metal, stadium rock and wathave u to wholeheartedly embrace musical aesthetics found in electronic dance music, dub reggae, 70s progressive/Krautrock, 60s film soundtracks, avant garde composition etc.....
 
Tortoise's Millions Now Living Will Never Die stands as this 'genre''s most significant document, where rock music is able to truly achieve 'texture', 'colour' and 'sound', yet retain its emotional and visceral force. 
 
In fact, my brother keeps asking me why stuff like Mogwai and Sigur Ros are considred postrock when all he can hear is a newer strain of shoegazer indie rock like Slowdive, Chapterhouse and Ride!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:26
Originally posted by Aaron Aaron wrote:

i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...1. the bands sound sappy2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy3. i also didn't like the interviews i read with GYBE, although i do think their music is pretty good, but they carried the same pretentiousness about them that the mighty bands of the past did, they are just way more subtlepeace , love and good happiness stuffAaron


Your constant use of the term "gay" is really starting to bother me.

Am I wrong or haven't you been warned repeatedly about that?
    


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:10
Yea, i can definitely see some similarities in sound that would put them there.
 
And I think I'll try to pick that one up. I noticed that most of the songs on teh setlist were from that one,a dn its their highest rated...
So if I can find it, I'll buy it.
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:03
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Watching that video made interested in getting an album by them and got TNT wich I think is a masterpiece. I agree that they aren't post-rock if you compare them with other bands from the genre, but they have that certain sound that makes them part of the genre. You should check the album I mentioned earlier if you liked the video.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:36
Oh man. I just watched that Tortoise video.

Holy sh*t, what a kick ass group.
 
Idono about calling them post rock though... i tihnk they'd fit better under the ambiet prog rock catagory...but either way its awesome.
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:19
I'm not that familiar with the genre really, but i do have GY!BE's Lift Yr Skinny Fists... and i think it's marvellous. Still need to explore Sigur Ros further, and i guess the genre as a whole. Not one of my priorities though, i have to say.

And yeah i wouldn't have said Jaga Jazzist are post-rock. I can understand why people would be inclined to say they have a post-rockiness to them, but i think they're more closely related to jazz.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:56
Post rock is my favorite genre, it all happened when I saw someone post the album to F#A#, whoever did it I'm eternally greatful. Tongue

Thank's for all the good suggestions! I'm definately looking a lot of them up.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:31
Originally posted by BePinkTheater BePinkTheater wrote:

i just tried to find them, and it looks like Jaga Jazzist isn't even included in the archives...why is that?
 
They are still on the list of bands under discussion/voting here:
 
 
Here are a few links:
 
 
I have thought of them more as a jazz/funk sounding band.
 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:17
Good to see an appreciation thread about the genre. I too fell in love with the genre mainly because of the emotional level bands take you. I remember reading a review about Sigur Ros' Agaetis Byrjum saying that this is the music that you hear when you're on your way to heaven. That line made me really curious and I started to look info on the genre and the band and after that it was all downhill (in a good away).

Since I see Avestin and Bryan recommend some bands maybe I can recommend you a video perhaps?

Check this one out.

a Live preformance of Tortoise the band
~setlist...

-Strech (you are all right)
-Ten Day Interval
-Swung From the Gutters
-The Lithium Shifts
-Crest
-Seneca
Taken from Youtube.com

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:03
i just tried to find them, and it looks like Jaga Jazzist isn't even included in the archives...why is that?
I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:48
Originally posted by Bryan Bryan wrote:

Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while.
 
Jaga Jazzist is great, but I never realized they were post rock.
They are experimental, if you refer to that.
Anyway, a great band.
 
 
 
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