Appreciation and Discussion of Post-Rock
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Topic: Appreciation and Discussion of Post-Rock
Posted By: BePinkTheater
Subject: Appreciation and Discussion of Post-Rock
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 18:39
I'm fairly new to the genre, but I have fallen madly in love with it.
I'm very confident with my opinion that it is, in my eyes, it is the best genre of music to date. The emotional level and existential, calm state that it puts you in is simply incredible.
I have many songs downloaded and such, but the only CDs I own are : ().Von,Yanqui U.X.O, and LYSFLATH.
With what i have downloaded , i have a lot of Explosions in the sky and Mowgai too, but I havent been able to find any cds in stores.
Let's discuss this wonderful genre
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:13
i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...
1. the bands sound sappy 2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy 3. i also didn't like the interviews i read with GYBE, although i do think their music is pretty good, but they carried the same pretentiousness about them that the mighty bands of the past did, they are just way more subtle
peace , love and good happiness stuff
Aaron
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:19
Aaron wrote:
i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...
2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy
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At least you have valid criticisms to provide towards the genre.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:23
Aaron wrote:
i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...
1. the bands sound sappy 2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy 3. i also didn't like the interviews i read with GYBE, although i do think their music is pretty good, but they carried the same pretentiousness about them that the mighty bands of the past did, they are just way more subtle
peace , love and good happiness stuff
Aaron
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Ok Aaron, thanks for the warning, I shall steer clear from this pathetic music.
I mean, kids crying at concerts, dear me, what a dreadful thought...
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:31
BePinkTheater wrote:
I'm fairly new to the genre, but I have fallen madly in love with it.
I'm very confident with my opinion that it is, in my eyes, it is the best genre of music to date. The emotional level and existential, calm state that it puts you in is simply incredible.
I have many songs downloaded and such, but the only CDs I own are : ().Von,Yanqui U.X.O, and LYSFLATH.
With what i have downloaded , i have a lot of Explosions in the sky and Mowgai too, but I havent been able to find any cds in stores.
Let's discuss this wonderful genre
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So as to not allow one person ruin a potentially good thread, lets ignore the previous remarks and focus on the music.
The post-rock team here in PA is a team I really appreciate and you should be able to get interesting recommendations from them (Golden Spiral, Jimbo, Chamberry and Bryan). And there are also other fans here (such as anael) that will probably give you info as well.
Anyway, I will only mention some bands I like in this genre:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2553 - 65DAYSOFSTATIC
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1749 - A SILVER MT. ZION
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1943 - BARK PSYCHOSIS
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2515 - BELL ORCHESTRE (I strongly recommend them for some thrilling and rather happy sound)
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1784 - DO MAKE SAY THINK
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1746 - EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1785 - FLY PAN AM
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1934 - FLYING SAUCER ATTACK
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1944 - GASTR DEL SOL
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2054 - MAGYAR POSSE
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2533 - MONO
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2095 - VALLEY OF THE GIANTS
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 19:36
A kid cries everytime Mono's Com (?) reaches that noisy part.
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:09
The unfortunate part about post-rock is that there are legions of bands copying the sounds of the genre's big acts (GYBE, Explosions in the Sky and Mogwai), which has earned it sort of a bad reputation. Here are some groups I would recommend who stear clear of this pitfall.
Tortoise - It could almost be said that they ARE one of the genre's big acts, but they're totally unique from the rest. Envy - If you can stand some sceamed vocals, this is as beautiful and intense as music gets. I hope to include them soon if the other post-rock team members are in agreement. Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while. Bell Orchestre - Upbeat post-rock? It's as good a concept as it sounds. Rachel's - A controversial entry amongst our team, it may be quite awhile before we actually see them included on the archives... but this is amazing, strongly neo-classical music which I've managed to absolutely fall in love with.
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:18
Thank you very much (both Avestin and Bryan)
I'll definitely be checking some of those bands out.
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:22
Personally I find the latest three (okay all except Von) Sigur Ros albums to be very good. Try Takk.
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 20:48
Bryan wrote:
Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while.
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Jaga Jazzist is great, but I never realized they were post rock.
They are experimental, if you refer to that.
Anyway, a great band.
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:03
i just tried to find them, and it looks like Jaga Jazzist isn't even included in the archives...why is that?
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:17
Good to see an appreciation thread about the genre. I too fell in love with the genre mainly because of the emotional level bands take you. I remember reading a review about Sigur Ros' Agaetis Byrjum saying that this is the music that you hear when you're on your way to heaven. That line made me really curious and I started to look info on the genre and the band and after that it was all downhill (in a good away).
Since I see Avestin and Bryan recommend some bands maybe I can recommend you a video perhaps?
Check this one out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sps7YxLeYM">
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sps7YxLeYM - Tortoise (Live at Werchter)
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a Live preformance of Tortoise the band ~setlist...
-Strech (you are all right) -Ten Day Interval -Swung From the Gutters -The Lithium Shifts -Crest -Seneca Taken from Youtube.com
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:31
BePinkTheater wrote:
i just tried to find them, and it looks like Jaga Jazzist isn't even included in the archives...why is that? |
They are still on the list of bands under discussion/voting here:
http://www.progtology.com/home/progarchives/postrockchart.xhtml - http://www.progtology.com/home/progarchives/postrockchart.xhtml
Here are a few links:
http://www.myspace.com/jagajazzististhesound - http://www.myspace.com/jagajazzististhesound (samples)
http://www.myspace.com/jazzists - http://www.myspace.com/jazzists (samples)
http://www.jagajazzist.com/ - http://www.jagajazzist.com/
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/jazz/reviews/jaga_hush.shtml - http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/jazz/reviews/jaga_hush.shtml
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Jaga+Jazzist - http://www.discogs.com/artist/Jaga+Jazzist
http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/jazz/reviews/jaga_stix.shtml - http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/jazz/reviews/jaga_stix.shtml
http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2005/07/jaga_jazzist_wh.html - http://www.brooklynvegan.com/archives/2005/07/jaga_jazzist_wh.html
I have thought of them more as a jazz/funk sounding band.
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 21:56
Post rock is my favorite genre, it all happened when I saw someone post the album to F#A#, whoever did it I'm eternally greatful. ![Tongue](smileys/smiley17.gif)
Thank's for all the good suggestions! I'm definately looking a lot of them up.
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Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:19
I'm not that familiar with the genre really, but i do have GY!BE's Lift Yr Skinny Fists... and i think it's marvellous. Still need to explore Sigur Ros further, and i guess the genre as a whole. Not one of my priorities though, i have to say.
And yeah i wouldn't have said Jaga Jazzist are post-rock. I can understand why people would be inclined to say they have a post-rockiness to them, but i think they're more closely related to jazz.
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 22:36
Oh man. I just watched that Tortoise video.
Holy sh*t, what a kick ass group.
Idono about calling them post rock though... i tihnk they'd fit better under the ambiet prog rock catagory...but either way its awesome.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:03
I'm glad you enjoyed it. Watching that video made interested in getting an album by them and got TNT wich I think is a masterpiece. I agree that they aren't post-rock if you compare them with other bands from the genre, but they have that certain sound that makes them part of the genre. You should check the album I mentioned earlier if you liked the video.
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:10
Yea, i can definitely see some similarities in sound that would put them there.
And I think I'll try to pick that one up. I noticed that most of the songs on teh setlist were from that one,a dn its their highest rated...
So if I can find it, I'll buy it.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:26
Aaron wrote:
i don't mean to sound critical of the genre, but...1. the bands sound sappy2. kids cry at the concerts (that's just plain gay, and what i mean by that is "over the top", seriously, it's amazing that the music does this to them, but the music is so damn sappy3. i also didn't like the interviews i read with GYBE, although i do think their music is pretty good, but they carried the same pretentiousness about them that the mighty bands of the past did, they are just way more subtlepeace , love and good happiness stuffAaron
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Your constant use of the term "gay" is really starting to bother me.
Am I wrong or haven't you been warned repeatedly about that?
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:01
hehehe from the discussions above really seems that the term postrock really has evolved and changed over the years to allude mainly to guitar-based, epic sweeping instrumental rock music. To the point where one of the most important and seminal postrock bands Tortoise gets called ambient-prog instead (tho that is technically not a wrong way to describe them if you had never heard the term postrock before)........
Postrock has always been a mixed bag of sounds, the point where rock music moved beyond 80s indie rock, hair metal, stadium rock and wathave u to wholeheartedly embrace musical aesthetics found in electronic dance music, dub reggae, 70s progressive/Krautrock, 60s film soundtracks, avant garde composition etc.....
Tortoise's Millions Now Living Will Never Die stands as this 'genre''s most significant document, where rock music is able to truly achieve 'texture', 'colour' and 'sound', yet retain its emotional and visceral force.
In fact, my brother keeps asking me why stuff like Mogwai and Sigur Ros are considred postrock when all he can hear is a newer strain of shoegazer indie rock like Slowdive, Chapterhouse and Ride!!!
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:15
btw if you ask me, Radiohead's Kid A and Amnesiac are pretty damn postrock as well......though not in a very direct way.........
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:54
Bryan wrote:
The unfortunate part about post-rock is that there are legions of bands copying the sounds of the genre's big acts (GYBE, Explosions in the Sky and Mogwai), which has earned it sort of a bad reputation. Here are some groups I would recommend who stear clear of this pitfall.
Tortoise - It could almost be said that they ARE one of the genre's big acts, but they're totally unique from the rest. Envy - If you can stand some sceamed vocals, this is as beautiful and intense as music gets. I hope to include them soon if the other post-rock team members are in agreement. Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while. Bell Orchestre - Upbeat post-rock? It's as good a concept as it sounds. Rachel's - A controversial entry amongst our team, it may be quite awhile before we actually see them included on the archives... but this is amazing, strongly neo-classical music which I've managed to absolutely fall in love with.
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I am at a loss with this band. Its an off-shoot of the Arcade fFire. But to label tham as post-rock is a misnomer.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:55
I love post rock. Was playing in a post rock group today, or something like that.
My favorite post rock group is Sigur Ros and recently, I've been getting in to some Explosions in the Sky.
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Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 02:16
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 04:54
Asyte2c00 wrote:
Bryan wrote:
The unfortunate part about post-rock is that there are legions of bands copying the sounds of the genre's big acts (GYBE, Explosions in the Sky and Mogwai), which has earned it sort of a bad reputation. Here are some groups I would recommend who stear clear of this pitfall.
Tortoise - It could almost be said that they ARE one of the genre's big acts, but they're totally unique from the rest. Envy - If you can stand some sceamed vocals, this is as beautiful and intense as music gets. I hope to include them soon if the other post-rock team members are in agreement. Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while. Bell Orchestre - Upbeat post-rock? It's as good a concept as it sounds. Rachel's - A controversial entry amongst our team, it may be quite awhile before we actually see them included on the archives... but this is amazing, strongly neo-classical music which I've managed to absolutely fall in love with.
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I am at a loss with this band. Its an off-shoot of the Arcade fFire. But to label tham as post-rock is a misnomer. |
Huh? Care to elaborate on that a bit?
Anyway, back to the topic, Assaf and Bryan gave some excellent recommendations. Not much to add, there are indeed countless Explosions In The Sky/Mogwai clones out there, so you better check the aforementioned first before fully entering the scene.
World's End Girlfriend is pretty good and fairly original as well, and I seem to recall that Samuel Jackson Five sounded quite intriguing, although I haven't heard a full album by them yet.
Regarding Jaga Jazzist, I love them to bits, but I'm a bit torn about whether to consider them post-rock or not. Their sound does often veer towards post-rock (similar to Tortoise), but they're still essentially a jazz band IMO. Very innovative and progressive regardless of the genre though, and I definitely wouldn't mind seeing them on here.
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 05:00
Hey guys, what should I get by Envy?
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 05:07
Hmm, I have only heard their latest, so I'm afraid I can't be of much assistance on this one. It's a fine album though, and should work as a starting point.
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:59
boy...I'm total newbie to Post-Rock,but GYBE's SLEEP is constantly playing in my head for last 2 months!!!Especially that break from 18.01 to 20.42...
I adore GYBE's Lift your Skinny Fists,it'smy fave 2000 release and one of the favouritest albums ever.The first I heard from Post-Rock and the best(haven't heard anything better yet).Purchased another albums of them...can't wait 'till the parcel comes!!!
Also have:
SIGUR ROS - Takk.Nice,but I expected more...must get something else
EXPLOSIONS IN THE SKY - The Rescue.Very good,mellow and HAPPY!!!Must get Millions...
OCEANSIZE - Effloresce.Nice,but not that good
BELL ORCHESTRE - Recording a Tape...Very good!!!
Haven't heard TORTOISE,MOGWAI,A SILVER MT.ZION,65DAYSOFSTATIC and other Greats.Would like toplay in a Post-Rock band of GYBE type...
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 07:02
Prog-jester wrote:
SIGUR ROS - Takk.Nice,but I expected more...must get something else
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Yeah, you should get either the symbol album or Agaetis Burjyuin, whatever you spell either of them.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:09
Jimbo wrote:
Regarding Jaga Jazzist, I love them to bits, but I'm a bit torn about whether to consider them post-rock or not. Their sound does often veer towards post-rock (similar to Tortoise), but they're still essentially a jazz band IMO. Very innovative and progressive regardless of the genre though, and I definitely wouldn't mind seeing them on here.
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Yeah, they're a really tough call. I think they're essentially a jazz band as well, but with undeniable (post-) rock elements. I think regardless they should be included here, but the post-rock tag might be misguiding. Still, they're a really great band.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:12
Trickster F. wrote:
A kid cries everytime Mono's Com (?) reaches that noisy part. |
![LOL](smileys/smiley36.gif) when I saw Mono live a few months ago, some kids were definitely on the verge of tears, but only because the band was so damn loud! At one point, they all just stood in front of their amps and looped a bunch of reverbed-out feedback for about 5 minutes straight. I've seen dozens of metal bands live, but Mono was by far louder than all of them.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 10:18
I have only heard Mogwai and Do Make Say Think so far (I vastly prefer
the latter), but I'm planning to discover more Post-Rock.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 11:27
Jimbo wrote:
World's End Girlfriend is pretty good and fairly original as well, and I seem to recall that Samuel Jackson Five sounded quite intriguing, although I haven't heard a full album by them yet.
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I have Easily Missunderstood by The Samuel Jackson Five and I really like their approach to the genre. It has more similarities with prog than with minimalism. It's a rather upbeat album and more complex than other bands from the genre too.
World's End Girlfriend is another good band, but its a hard to get into really or at least the album I have by him and, as pointed out by Jimbo, it's fairly original as well. Would you believe that all of the instruments played on the album is actually performed by a singles person?
Bryan wrote:
Bell Orchestre - Upbeat post-rock? It's as good a concept as it sounds.
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Don't forget Saxon Shore! I call it my morning band because of their powerful sound and upbeat melodies puts me in a good mood for the rest of the day. ![Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 11:53
chamberry wrote:
Don't forget Saxon Shore! I call it my morning band because of their powerful sound and upbeat melodies puts me in a good mood for the rest of the day. ![Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
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Forgot about them... ![Embarrassed](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley9.gif)
Definitely try them for good mood and more "positive" approach to life... like Bell Orchestre.
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 13:41
Regarding Jaga Jazzist, they're definitely a bit of a strange entry... even if not directly post-rock themselves, I think they'd definitely appeal to fans of the genre. I'd very much like to see them on here, albeit (as some others have said) perhaps not under post-rock.
As for Bell Orchestre and Tortoise... it's true that both aren't quite standard for post-rock (I know for a fact that the latter despise the term), but I still feel that they both fit comfortably under the title... something about them just screams "post-rock!" to me.
Ivan, go for either of the previous two Envy albums (A Dead Sinking Story, Insomniac Doze). The latter is my personal favorite, but it's fairly derivative of the former.
Another magnificent band listed under this genre is Ulver... they're a bit of an odd inclusion under post-rock, but they do have several slow, majestic instrumental pieces and tons of experimentation. Perdition City and the film soundtrack Svidd Neger are both very much worth a listen for fans of the style, though they've covered so many genres in their career that it becomes impossible to categorize them.
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 23:53
I've gotten 2 albums since this thread, Recording A Tape The Colour Of The Light - Bell Orchestre and One Step More And You Die - Mono. Going to let you know on how they are,
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 02:01
I'm reviving this thread to re-recommend Envy... those who claim that post-rock has hit a standstill need to check out 2006's Insomniac Doze and weep to yourselves. This is one of the most beautifully constructed albums of all time, I can't stop listening to it.
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 06:18
Bryan wrote:
I'm reviving this thread to re-recommend Envy... those who claim that post-rock has hit a standstill need to check out 2006's Insomniac Doze and weep to yourselves. This is one of the most beautifully constructed albums of all time, I can't stop listening to it.
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I have to tell you... THANK for recomedning Envy earlier, I got Insomniac Doze and it's sensational, I did not expect this. Very moving.
The spoken word passages are heavenly.
And Bell Orchestre were a very good find, I enjoyed "Recording..." a lot.
Moo's album was very good too, Com (?) sure lived upto my expectations.
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 06:45
Mmm Post Rock...
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 07:23
I don't know much about the postrock genre yet, Agaetis Byrjun from Sigur Ros is a beautiful album.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 07:32
avestin wrote:
Bryan wrote:
Jaga Jazzist - Jimbo gets credit for turning me on to these guys... not the genre's most traditional band, but very interesting and experimental music which I also hope to get included in the coming while.
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Jaga Jazzist is great, but I never realized they were post rock.
They are experimental, if you refer to that.
Anyway, a great band.
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I would personally put Jaga Jazzist in acid jazz myself, rather than post rock.
And I have yet to reada word of Tarentel on this thread.
I think that unfortunately too many groups are effectively plagiarizing the GYBE! (and not GY!BE) and DMST sound.
I have a hard time liking newer bands (like EITS or Mogwai) solely because of this trademark sound. Technically all those newer groups are as good as the first generation, but they lack their own "soul", IMHO
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 14:56
Hoping it catches on...
What's a good album/song by Tarentel, Sean? I saw all your reviews on them. Heh.
And I urge everybody to get Envy's newest album, Insomniac Doze. It's fantastic if you don't mind screamo vocals. ![Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
EDIT: I thought I'd also add I never was too fond of this kind of vocals until I heard this band. They turned me around.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 19:53
Posted By: I|I|I|I|I
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 20:39
Another plug for Jaga Jazzist over here.
My call would be jazz rock/fusion for them, and here's why:
I've read on mulitple occassions on the site and off the site that jazz
rock/fusion is a very inclusive genre, with bands like Planet X which
have a clear metal influence to bands like Mahavishnu Orchestra with
their Raga Rock influences. So I don't see why Jaga Jazzist, a
post-rock influenced jazz rock/fusion band, couldn't be included in the
genre.
But yes, for fans of post-rock, check out Jaga Jazzist. I think the
closest comparison to Jaga might be some work by Do Make Say Think or
Tortoise.
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 09:56
chamberry wrote:
I'll be sure to listen to Envy with all of the atention its geting.
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Be sure to tell us what you think of them back here. ![Big smile](smileys/smiley4.gif)
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: September 22 2006 at 17:15
Following Envy's release on the 12th, the Red Sparowes release their second full length effort, Every Red Heart Shines Toward the Red Sun.
http://www.amazon.com/Every-Red-Heart-Shines-Toward/dp/B000H0MMBS/sr=1-1/qid=1158959489/ref=sr_1_1/104-6633107-3338344?ie=UTF8&s=music - http://www.amazon.com/Every-Red-Heart-Shines-Toward/dp/B000H0MMBS/sr=1-1/qid=1158959489/ref=sr_1_1/104-6633107-3338344?ie=UTF8&s=music
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 22 2006 at 21:28
^ I'm listening to it right now! It's a perfect follow up to their debut. I'll give it some more listens and make a better comparisons, but so far so good.
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Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: October 11 2006 at 23:50
chamberry wrote:
^ I'm listening to it right now! It's a perfect follow up to their debut. I'll give it some more listens and make a better comparisons, but so far so good.
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How did you enjoy that CD, Chamberry?
I'm going to let you guys know what I think of Thee Silver Mt Zion albums soon. I was going to listen to them today, but i had no time to.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 00:06
Tortoise's 'Standards' is one of the best albums to come out in years, of any genre. And I guess Mogwai is 'post', but to me that's a little vague, more like industrial space rock.
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Posted By: Marsaphire
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 07:36
Red Sparowes, Russian Circles, Tarantula Hawk=Good stuff.
All heavy. All "progessive" with a small p. All without vocals, the way I think post-rock should be. After all, no matter how heavy this music is, it seems to be more about atmosphere and ambience then anything a vocaiist might have to say. Even GS!YBE only uses samples, which are more about setting a mood than any particular statement the band might want to make.
At least that's my take ![Smile](smileys/smiley1.gif)
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"Eat, drink and be merry, for tomorrow we die" - Another famous Willie
"Don't fear the reaper" -BOC
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Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 11:04
I saw Mogwai live three days ago or something. Yay!
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 11:29
Atavachron wrote:
Tortoise's 'Standards' is one of the best albums to come out in years, of any genre
I would say that its their most rockin AND funkin album......Seneca is such a killer track!!!! one of my top 5 Tortoise songs.......(amongst many)
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 11:45
Meddler wrote:
chamberry wrote:
^ I'm listening to it right now! It's a perfect follow up to their debut. I'll give it some more listens and make a better comparisons, but so far so good.
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How did you enjoy that CD, Chamberry?
I'm going to let you guys know what I think of Thee Silver Mt Zion albums soon. I was going to listen to them today, but i had no time to.
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I haven't heard it as much, but from what I remeber this one is pretty much in the same level as their debut although my opinion might change after giving it a more in deph listening. Great album nonetheless.
and the one who recommended Russian Circles, . Great band. Everyone who's into Isis, Pelican, Red Sparowes and other heavy bands should get their album called Enter.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 17:11
O.K., they're not in PA and evidently a little unpopular, but Rachel Grimes' ensemble is making some of the sweetest and most beautifully recorded 'chamber-prog'. They deserve to be heard by anyone interested in original post-classical work within a jazz/rock format (drums, bass, piano). The music reminds of Satie's gymnopedies but with a modern progressive flair. I may start a thread on them but I can't figure out where to put it, Non-prog I suppose.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 05:17
^^ Rachel's is a wonderful band, but IMO they're too classically oriented (There's hardly any rock aspect to their music) to be included here.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 11:18
IMO Clogs is a band that is also classical oriented that is also named with Rachel's and 1 Mile North and I find them to be more post-rockier than Rachel's. Anyone who likes those two bands might want to check them out.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 11:56
Just got myself a couple of Explosions in the Sky albums. Listening to
The Earth Is Not a Cold Dead Place right now. Some seriously good
music!
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 12:06
It so crazy. This genre of music just keeps kicking my ass lately. Every thing I hear is just great. Its so powerful, I just want everyone to love it as much as I do... but there seems to be a lot of disinterest from other prog guys.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 14:07
BePinkTheater wrote:
It so crazy. This genre of music just keeps
kicking my ass lately. Every thing I hear is just great. Its so
powerful, I just want everyone to love it as much as I do... but there
seems to be a lot of disinterest from other prog guys. |
I feel the same thing. Running around like crazy recommending Post-Rock
to my friends. I have succeeded in getting one of them into it...
most of the others don't seem interested... ![Cry](smileys/smiley19.gif)
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 16:13
Hey, so I was just listening to some chorma Key, and I think that maybe this project should be moved into post-rcok. All the music has a very tortoise feel to it, but is deffintely not a rip off. it has a lot of spacey/pyshce elements (which is where they are now, ironically after my suggestion to put them there [they were in prog metal...which is comepltly incorrect]). but i tihnk they would definitely have a nice home in post-rock.
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-Stone Beard
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 19:21
I don't know. I have Chroma Key's Dead air for radio and the best fir for that album is in psych/space rock. What album did you listened to BPT?
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 20:36
Well I've heard all of them, but specifically Gravyard Moutain Home gives me a very Tortoise feeling. You can listen to the whole discography at Chromakey.com
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-Stone Beard
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 21:17
Wow. I'm now listening to track #6 and everything I've heard up until this track can be concidered post-rock. I'll listen to the rest tomorrow and see what those the rest sounds like and I'll listen to You go now too. So far I don't think he could be concidered Post-rock just because one of his album sounds like it, but if the second album is post-rock as well then I don't see why he should be kept in psych/space rock.
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 21:43
Yea. i remember getting the smae vibe from all his albums( but this was a long time ago, before I even knew what post- rock was) I havent heard them in a long time, so maybe its just GMH, or maybe its all of them.
I remember when i first listented to the three of them, getting a feeling of etheralness. just complete ambience and relaxation. This is the same feeling i get when i hear post-rock. And since I've been on such a big kick of post rock lately, i decided to go back and listen to GMH. it gave me the same feeling as it did before, tomorrow I'll listen to the others and see what happens.
------------- I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
-Stone Beard
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 19:41
Now that I've heard his/their whole discography, I still think he/they still belong in the space/psych genre. You Go Now has the same style as Dead Air For Radios wich is has more in common with space rock than post-rock. Although there are still some hints of post-rock in his sound on this album, the same thing can be said to Mogwai's Happy songs for happy people and others. Graveyard Mountan Home is still a very Tortoish album as you said and the first songs a pretty good to.
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Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 20:16
Yes, I have recently gotten into the eerie soundscapes of Post-Rock. "F#A#oo", "Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven", and "Yanqui UXO". Everything by Sigur Ros is also beautifully ambient, just not as long. I desperately love the imagination and dreamy ideas I get from listening to this music.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 20:44
Welcome to the club Penumbra! Those are the same things why I love this genre. I can just close my eyes and just let my mind flow. I would like to recommend you two albums to keep this musical journey alive and well
Explosions in the sky - The earth is not a cold dead place Yndi Halda - Enjoy eternal bliss
Both albums sound happier than Yanqui and F#A#oo, but that doesn't detracts anything. They're still emotional and powerful.![Thumbs Up](smileys/smiley20.gif)
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 22:50
Bump.
Just letting you guys know that the band Saxon Shore will be added in a matter of days. Anyone interested in this band I recommend their 2005 album, The Exquisite Death Of Saxon Shore. It's a very optimistic band and it's very energetic as well. Creccendos? Who needs them! Saxon Shore gets down to business and doest it fast.
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Posted By: BePinkTheater
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 23:31
Oo cool recommendation.
I'll have to check them out.
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-Stone Beard
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