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Gentle and Giant ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 24 2019 Location: Blackpool Status: Offline Points: 4637 |
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I only saw them live twice. The first time in 1980 on the PeW tour at the Manchester Apollo when I was 16, the second time on the Clockwork Angels tour in 2013 at the Manchester Arena. I loved Rush up to Power Windows and I really didn't like the poppy nature of the songs and missed the long pieces. I did buy HYF, but I got half way through Force Ten and sacked it off. I still have that vinyl and only played it through fully a few weeks ago. I returned to Rush when CA came out and revisited all the albums I'd missed from HYF. My highlight from that lot is Vapor Trails - I know a lot of Rush fans dislike that album (the lack of guitar solos maybe the reason), but I love it, notably Secret Touch, which is one of my favourite Rush songs. Of course I own all the vinyl up to HYF, but have since bought' Sectors 1, 2 and 3 and have all the concerts on Blu-ray (at least 2 of each due to the R40 boxset), as well as other DVDs (even ESL on VHS somewhere lol)
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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After MP...no rush track over 7 mins? The smoking gun? A bit like Duke with genesis...Rush made an abysmal effort after MP...and I lost all interest in them to concentrate on prog bands who were still giving me what I wanted...not synth based pop!
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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I'm in the same place as you. You're right, they're not bad but I'm not sure how good they are overall. Certainly, there are standout tracks but I wish those albums had a more varied sound. There is a sameness to the songs. I find that when I get the urge to listen to one of those, I spin it once and then I'm good for years before I need to hear it again. For me, that's pretty telling.
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flyingveepixie ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 23 2015 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 146 |
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1974-75 : I used to go back to a friends house most days after school and we would listen to the first Rush album and marvel at Alex's guitar work. I forgot about them for a year or two after that until one day in 1976 when I was scratching around in the "Listen" record shop at the bottom of Renfield Street in Glasgow looking for an album to buy. Who should walk in to the shop but that same friend who I had lost touch with as I had moved away after leaving school, and he recommended I should buy All The Worlds a Stage, which I did. That was it - I was hooked and couldn't stop listening to it. Then came the Farewell to Kings tour : 12th June 1977 at Glasgow Apollo, where Xanadu was first aired live as a track from the forthcoming album and which is still seared into my memories 43 years later. Those double necks and the Taurus Bass Pedals..!! I remember the caption on the back of the tour programme from that show which read - "Rush : They must have been one hell of a band" The following year saw them do 2 nights at the Apollo in February and I was there again. I remember Alex's sound wasn't so great that time, and I was such a daft 17 year old kid that I rang up the Albany Hotel at around 5.30pm on the second night before running out to catch the bus in to town to mention it to him. I didn't expect to be put through, but bloody hell - suddenly there he was on the other end of the phone line waiting for me to say something, so I came straight out with it. Alex told me that Apparently they had been having some issues with some transformers they were having to use to step up the voltage as all their amps were configured to US voltage which is 110V whereas in the UK we used 230V and it was this which was causing the problem with the sound. I don't know if that was actually the case or not, but it's what he told me and it sounded plausible enough.... After that I continued to attend every show Rush played at Glasgow Apollo until 1982, and can proudly state that I am a fully fledged member of the Glasgow Apollo "Choir" on the live version of Closer to the Heart on Exit Stage Left. As far as I'm concerned the best time for Rush was the 1970s and 80s up to and including Hold your Fire. After that I thought they kind of went a bit flat. I saw them in 1987 in a big barn-like arena made of concrete and steel, and the sound was totally sh*te, and same again in 2007 in a similar big arena where the sound was again totally sh*te. I don't know why any self respecting bands even consider such venues where the sound is always so poor but there you go.... Anyway, that was the last time I saw them and I can only offer humble thanks and the greatest appreciation for all that they gave me over the years both in terms of listening and watching enjoyment, and their collective influence on my own playing technique. RIP Neil. You will be sorely missed.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18957 |
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They are the ones I am the least familiar with(especially vapor trails)which is why I have been listening to them lately.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 45698 |
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I don't know why but I rarely listen to the post Test for Echo albums. I don't know why, they're not bad at all.
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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Roll The Bones, with the exception of Dreamline and a couple others, puts me to sleep. Might be my least favorite Rush album. Side two in particular is mostly a big snoozer. |
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Mortte ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: November 11 2016 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 5538 |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29495 |
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I thought Power Windows was a great album song wise although a bit 'plastic' sounding. Hold Your Fire and Presto are my least favourite Rush albums until they got back on track with Roll The Bones. The synths were fast disappearing and the hard rock style returned.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18957 |
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Airplay doesn't always equal success though. Metallica, Iron Maiden, NIN, and Tool all seemed to have sold a lot of albums before they got much airplay(especailly with IM and Metallica). It seems to be mostly a thing with metal and hard rock bands though. I don't think Black Sabbath were played much on the radio either(at least in the 70's and 80's). As for Rush I am a bit too young to say about the early days but I certainly heard them on the radio after signals(first by them I bought on cassette). But I am from the northeastern US and so things might have different elsewhere.
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Jeffro ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 29 2014 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 2201 |
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By their own admission they didn't get massive airplay in the U.S. However, I'm sure the amount of airplay they did get was a regional thing. In the 80s here in CT, the only time they got significant airplay was when a new album was released (and then not even a ton of airplay) and when they had a tour date in the state. At most other times, airplay on local radio was very spotty. That's going by memory or course.
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: Kansas City Status: Offline Points: 12402 |
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Back on topic folks. This is a Rush thread.
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Blacksword ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
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I like 80's KC, but those three albums are not a patch on their 70's efforts IMO, whereas early 80's Rush albums hold up well against their 70's albums, and are better than the 'chapter 1' albums, in terms of musicianship, maturity of song writing and originality. |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18957 |
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My biggest issue with the 80's was the production and the big drum sound. I'm not talking about gated reverb either just the way the drums were put up front and produced. Listen to the Cars "heartbeat city" or ZZ Top's "afterburner." There's just something about the production that rubs me the wrong way. It's almost as if they were trying to give rock albums a dance music aesthetic or something. Yeah you can still enjoy it if you are in the right mindset or just accept it as it is but it just comes across as sounding try too hard or something. Some of the pop music actually wasn't too bad especially compared to today but again the cheesey production is the biggest offender imo. I agree with you about neo prog, hard rock(I guess there was some) and metal(except for hair metal) and I actually like a lot of the new wave from that era. I also think some of the early alternative stuff was good. However, if I have to choose between decades for me it would go 70's, 90's, 60's then 80's. For prog it would be about the same although the last two decades would be before the 80's and you can take out the sixties since the genre hardly existed then. So no it wasn't all bad but I prefer other decades more. Plus I admit I do need to discover and rediscover more from the 80's. Back then I was mostly into(including the latest albums by) KC, Yes, Genesis, Rush, PF and MB. I liked other stuff too but not too much that was current at the time.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18590 |
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I'm not saying Fripp didn't want to make an arthouse album like Talking Heads. I think he made the perfect arthouse-prog hybrid. Discipline sounds like a Heads album only with Zappa Band chops. That's what I meant. The '80s was great if you were into the advancement of synthesizer technology. I was into synths and all throughout high school, one of my biggest goals was getting my first synth. I was into Tangerine Dream years before I got into Rush. I never understood the hate some fans gave Rush for incorporating synths into their sound. The decade was also great for neo-prog and film scores. A lot of really good hard rock and metal, too. Prog keyboardists like Wakeman, Banks, Bardens and Watkins released some fine solo albums. Larry Fast (Synergy) only did a couple, but they're excellent, nonetheless. Yeah, there's a lot of crap from the '80s, too. But that goes for any decade, when you think about it. Edited by verslibre - January 26 2020 at 16:39 |
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18957 |
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Maybe but I seriously doubt Discipline would have sounded the way it did if it wasn't for Remain in Light and yes the fact that Adrian was on it is a big part of that. The 80's was my era too but at the time I was more into older bands. Still, not a big fan of 80's music(at least compared to other decades) for the most part. It serves mostly as nostalgia for me and not much else.
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 18590 |
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Re: Remain in Light ^The '80s was my "era"...lol. I heard all that stuff, the good, the bad, the best, the worst, the rad, the meh. Fripp was already moving in that direction, as we can hear on Exposure two years earlier. He thought Daryl Hall was the best vocalist in the biz, too.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18957 |
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^I guess you never heard remain in light. ;)
Anyway, yeah I know about the band Cinema that evolved into Yes just like I know about Maybel Greer's Toyshop. :P Thanks for those links. I'll look into that further.
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