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musitron 
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Joined: March 10 2014 Location: Gatineau Canada Status: Offline Points: 142 |
 Posted: August 21 2014 at 11:18 |
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No. I said " they were much more than just a psychedelic pop rock band "  But I think at 45 you are still too young to understand the impact of the Beatles on the prog and music in general.
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O666
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 10:31 |
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O666
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 10:28 |
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Hi. Many of us (PA fans) love or like beatles. I start with them when I was 13-14 years old( Now I am 45). I agree with you my friend but IMO they never been a Prog Rock band or they never start Prog Rock Genre. As you said I think They are " just a psychedelic pop rock band " |
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someone_else
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 03:45 |
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I think this would make an album of about one hour (60:49) with their proggiest songs:
All You Need Is Love 3:47 Rain 3:02 Norwegian Wood 2:05 A Day in the Life 5:33 Happiness Is a Warm Gun 2:43 Strawberry Fields Forever 4:10 I Want You (She's So Heavy) 7:47 Helter Skelter 4:29 Tomorrow Never Knows 2:57 Within You Without You 5:05 Here Comes the Sun 3:05 I Am the Walrus 4:33 Revolution 9 8:22 Good Night 3:11 (I added Good Night because the transiton from Revolution 9 goes quite unnoticed) |
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Svetonio
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 01:44 |
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I agree, but with the exception of Strawberry Fields Forever / Penny Lane the single which is (early) British progressive rock wihout a question. |
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 00:18 |
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I moved this thread to the proto lounge:)
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“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: August 21 2014 at 00:14 |
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I'll admit, I'm not a huge fan of The Beatles, but however you look at things, Bruford said it perfectly. They may not be Prog per se, but surely innovative, adventurous and influential - everything a Prog band is
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: August 20 2014 at 12:13 |
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Bill Bruford interview in modern drummer http://www.moderndrummer.com/site/2007/08/bill-bruford/#_
MD: What sparked that original creative spark that became prog rock? Bill: The Beatles. They broke down every barrier that ever existed. Suddenly you could do anything after The Beatles. You could write your own music, make it ninety yards long, put it in 7/4, whatever you wanted. |
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musitron
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Posted: August 20 2014 at 12:06 |
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OK. I'm French. Sorry for the accent  I know The Beatles weren't prog. That term did not even exist until 1970. But they were the pioneers. And they were much more than just a psychedelic pop rock band even if they had 5 or 6 real psychedelic songs. They were more experimental and innovator to me. They were also more progressive than regressive music band.  Edited by musitron - August 20 2014 at 12:09 |
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dr wu23
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Posted: August 20 2014 at 11:39 |
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And here we are again about what is progressive and what isn't.
I have never thought the BEATLES were 'progressive rock' in any way but they did have some unusual use of instruments, orchestration, and techniques in some of their songs but when I was listening to them back in the day (I'm 63), I always saw those elements as more psych pop/rock. Edited by dr wu23 - August 20 2014 at 11:40 |
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O666
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Posted: August 20 2014 at 11:27 |
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Beatles Prog Side.
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musitron
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Posted: August 20 2014 at 10:39 |
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Who knows! That would probably be different without The Beatles.
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CosmicVibration
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Posted: August 20 2014 at 10:01 |
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Beatles “prog side” emerged after Rubber Soul. They were definitely pioneers of so called progressive rock. Conversely, if they didn’t do it, someone else would have. |
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Jeffro
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Posted: August 20 2014 at 09:50 |
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The Beatles were my first favorite group. Growing up, my parents had a few albums. Maybe that's where my love of prog ideas started.
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progbethyname
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Posted: August 20 2014 at 06:20 |
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Sargent Peppers for me. Very experimental/instrumental album.
Broke some new ground, especially for 1967. |
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Gimmie my headphones now!!! 🎧🤣
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: August 19 2014 at 21:04 |
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Don't forget about Fripp too
 . Fripp was influenced by them  |
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Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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musitron
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Posted: August 19 2014 at 21:01 |
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I respect your opinion but many artists do not think like you. "Tomorrow Never Knows" was like a breakthrough, and from then on, obviously they got into other major work, so they were the gods." - Jon Anderson And listen what Peter Hamil said. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJJ7gQBdrZw#t=124 |
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Manuel
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Posted: August 19 2014 at 20:00 |
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I would add "Within You Without You" to an already excellent list.
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Junges
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Posted: August 19 2014 at 19:42 |
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In my opinion, there isn't a "Beatles prog side" and I think prog rock would have existed without them anyway.
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HolyMoly
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Posted: August 19 2014 at 17:15 |
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The Beatles trained me at a very early age to look for interesting combinations and structures in music. It's the backbone upon which my whole collection is based.
Except maybe for that Wham album. Edited by HolyMoly - August 19 2014 at 17:17 |
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