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Points: 23104 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2012 at 13:19
My attention span these days don't allow me to enjoy double albums, but maybe Cardiacs should be the remedy for that. Sing to God is, if anything, as eclectic and frantic as you can get, and I do need to jump from one end of the spectrum to the other. I just went from The Smiths - Meat is Murder to Art Zoyd - Musique Pour L'Odysee - actually much thanks to you now that I think of it. Saw your post and thought: Sean Connery, Logan, Japan, Greg, Fifty Foot Hose, Art ZoydLOL Maybe not entirely in that order, but you probably get my drift... 
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Points: 37598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2012 at 13:12
I think El's just toying with me a bit -- we're old acquaintances.  To play the fool is a bit foolish though.  No worries.

Songs for Ships and Irons is great, and I just haven't given it as much time as Sing to God.


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I listened to Songs for Ships and Irons here the other day, and it still is an absolute joy of a record. As much as I love Sing to God, I much prefer the early 80s albums.

Yep just trying to get the banter going again - no need for multiple threads even if these guys are somewhat overlooked outside of a few smitten fans - from all over the world no less. 
Just agreeing with you here Greg, you made no mistake as far as I'm concerned. Cardiacs still get some mentions here - and we all need to be mentioned once in a while.
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Points: 37598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2012 at 12:15
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Erm, or maybe you actually were being serious? 

Maybe? Shocked


I assumed you were yanking my chain in a jocular manner and responded back in kind (we've know each-other a bit over the years, in so much as someone knows a person in such a venue which isn't that much, so I could expect a certain comfort in being able to joke around with each-othe. 

I had assumed you made that topic not knowing about this thread as it seemed to cover the same territory and I didn't see why it would be disadvantageous to you to move it there. More posts here to sink your teeth into.

 If there is a reason why you think your post would be better as a standalone topic, and if you have reasons to give on why you think I was in error, please do elaborate.  I don't get the "how dare you" comment.  I'm a moderator here, and I even took the time to say why I moved it.  Feel free to disagree with my actions, but I see no reason to take personal offence.

My take, and I will be interested to hear yours:  I expect that someone would have bumped this thread as it has been active quite recently, and your topic would have vanished without much love being spread.  I agree that more love should be spread, but multiple topics spreads the love thin, in a way.  it's common in forums to discourage multiple threads on the same topic.

it says right here in the forum guidelines http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=13082:

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So how was I in error?  What makes your topic sufficiently different from the other that you felt my actions shameful?  And feel free to report me to admin.
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Points: 6336 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2012 at 11:48
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Erm, or maybe you actually were being serious? 

Maybe? Shocked
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Erm, or maybe you actually were being serious? 
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Points: 37598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 24 2012 at 00:08
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Man... c´mon! This band is insanly awesome and we don´t talk about them as much as we should! 

Spread the love!!!

I´ll start by saying that Sing to God is a near perfect masterpiece, just so original and creative and fun, so much fun!!!


Moved your topic post to this thread since there has been ongoing discussion here 

How dare you?!


I dare do a lot of doings because I have derring-do.
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Points: 6336 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 23 2012 at 23:59
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Man... c´mon! This band is insanly awesome and we don´t talk about them as much as we should! 

Spread the love!!!

I´ll start by saying that Sing to God is a near perfect masterpiece, just so original and creative and fun, so much fun!!!


Moved your topic post to this thread since there has been ongoing discussion here 

How dare you?!
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Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Man... c´mon! This band is insanly awesome and we don´t talk about them as much as we should! 

Spread the love!!!

I´ll start by saying that Sing to God is a near perfect masterpiece, just so original and creative and fun, so much fun!!!


Moved your topic post to this thread since there has been ongoing discussion here (even if no posts for a couple months in this thread).  Lots of Cardiacs fans here, including myself.  I particularly love Sing to God.

By the way, I found these Cardiacs covers a while back, and thought they were very well done:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-6U73cix2A

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Sq0nTW6RpE


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Man... c´mon! This band is insanly awesome and we don´t talk about them as much as we should! 

Spread the love!!!

I´ll start by saying that Sing to God is a near perfect masterpiece, just so original and creative and fun, so much fun!!!
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Points: 5964 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2012 at 05:27
Yeah, there's no such thing as a "mythology" when it comes to Tim's lyrics. There are a couple of songs which reference other songs (i.e. "my hope day is forever coming closer" on the Seaside version of R.E.S.) but none of their albums strike me as being conceptual beyond vague themes, most obviously the use of Christian imagery on Sing to God.  Tim's always been fastidiously tight-lipped about the meaning of his lyrics, so ultimately how you interpret them is always down to you.
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 11:16
^ I'm not sure such a thing exists :)
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Points: 171 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 11:12
I have all the lyrics, I just want to get into the "Cardiacs' Mythology"
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Points: 4160 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 10:45
^ explanations? No! But here


lyrics for all studio albums. 

I find Tim's lyrics awesome to think about, strange, weird, disquieting, beautiful.
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Points: 171 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2012 at 10:39

Hey guys

I've been listening to Sing To God recently and I found it terrifyingly awesome

but I have a tonn of questions concerning the lyrics

are there any articles or sites explaining them?
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Points: 24 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 10 2012 at 09:35
Originally posted by The Hemulen The Hemulen wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Which other album did they "lose," some of the tracks from The Seaside? 


No, those were all present on the original cassetterelease, but were left off the CD version. Not sure why that is, actually, but either way they're 'out there', so to speak.

The "lost" album was the original attempt at a follow-up to Guns. The song "Faster Than Snakes With a Ball and a Chain" which was included on the 2002 "Greatest Hits" compilation was allegedly taken from a "forthcoming" album which never actually materialised. Apparently that work-in-progress album was lost in a hard drive crash. The files hadn't been fully backed up and Tim said in an interview that he tried to "fix" the unfinished songs but eventually abandoned them in favour of starting afresh on what would've been LSD, the current not-quite-finished album. There's a brief (unreferenced) mention of it on the wiki page for Greatest Hits and a few references in interviews, but I can't think where I would've read them right now.


 
Do you think this is actually true?  Sounds like one of those Aphex Twin style half-truths...
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Originally posted by frippism frippism wrote:

Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Maybe you can help me...where in the WORLD did this track come from?  I've looked through their discography here and on Cardiacs Museum and on Wikipedia, and nowhere do I see a track by this name...I like it, though!



Ah, did some quick searching on the forums over at The Mares Nest, apparently it's a Jon Poole composition which appears(?) on the second God Damn Whores album.  Guessing it was originally intended for a Cardiacs release though...

That's a great song, I think it was destined for the "lost" album. I think they call it just "Silvery" now, there's another live radio version from 2008, which is pretty great:
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Originally posted by SaltyJon SaltyJon wrote:

Maybe you can help me...where in the WORLD did this track come from?  I've looked through their discography here and on Cardiacs Museum and on Wikipedia, and nowhere do I see a track by this name...I like it, though!



Ah, did some quick searching on the forums over at The Mares Nest, apparently it's a Jon Poole composition which appears(?) on the second God Damn Whores album.  Guessing it was originally intended for a Cardiacs release though...

That's a great song, I think it was destined for the "lost" album. I think they call it just "Silvery" now, there's another live radio version from 2007, which is pretty great:
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Maybe you can help me...where in the WORLD did this track come from?  I've looked through their discography here and on Cardiacs Museum and on Wikipedia, and nowhere do I see a track by this name...I like it, though!



Ah, did some quick searching on the forums over at The Mares Nest, apparently it's a Jon Poole composition which appears(?) on the second God Damn Whores album.  Guessing it was originally intended for a Cardiacs release though...


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Ah, OK.  I didn't know what Faster Than Snakes With a Ball and a Chain was originally from, that explains it.  
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