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The Quiet One
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 11:02 | |
Yeah something like that. I'm a huge Purple fan, and like most eras, MK II over I. Mind you, Mk I did release some killer rockin' tunes: The Painter, Bird Has Flown, Why Didn't Rosemary, Wring that Neck, etc.
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The Miracle
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 10:09 | |
Yeah me too. Their sole full-blown prog album is the s/t one (and the live Concerto). I'm a bigger fan of Mk II unsurprisingly, but I think it had more to do with the development of metal than prog. |
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RedSheep
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 08:24 | |
Are we Talking dp 1 mark 1,2,3,4 or 5?
Definately a Deep purple 1 fan, I learned smoke on the water's solo with a broken arm and I've never forgotten it since! Child in time was mind blowing
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Textbook
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Posted: February 07 2012 at 02:53 | |
Who Do We Think We Are might suck a bit but that doesn't change the fact that as a raw performance unit, Mark II eats Mark I for breakfast. I have a rare live recording of Mark II performing Mandrake Root in Germany- Ian G doesn't open his mouth- and it's absolutely astonishing. Mark I were a good band but they never reached those heights.
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ole-the-first
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Posted: February 06 2012 at 21:55 | |
Vote for Mark I. All three albums with Rod Evans are very imaginative and fascinating.
And Mark II did at least two albums which I don't find excellent — Fireball and Who Do We Think We Are. |
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Snow Dog
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 08:22 | |
I've read all the posts here and I'm not convinced by the Mk II argument.
I vote Mk I Edited by Snow Dog - February 07 2012 at 09:09 |
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Weirdamigo
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 08:07 | |
I'd probably choose DP II over DP I
DP II is rather hard rock than prog yet the albums "Fireball" and "Machine head" are a must have for hard rock fans and,in fact, for all fans of good music DP I is more on the prog side but I have never liked "Shades of deep purple" for some unknown reason. On the other hand the self-titled album is excellent, especially the song "April" . Edited by Weirdamigo - July 28 2010 at 08:28 |
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TODDLER
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Posted: July 28 2010 at 08:07 | |
Mark II because it influenced musicians to combine more,...stylistically, a classical approach to hard rock. I suppose Fireball, In Rock, and Machine Head reached more musicians worldwide. One example I could give regarding DP'S influence on prog would be the following: Influential? or accidental?......you be the judge. When Peter Bardens solos on organ. The early Camel titles have organ jams. Long running lines of classical/jazz improv along with Andy Ward's style of drumming sounds quite like Deep Purple for about a whole of 8 minutes.
Omega....200 Years After the Last War is very reminiscent of the Deep Purple Mark II sound. There are various other underground European prog band's with an influence of D.P. Goblin has produced many instrumental tracks which provide interplay between guitar and organ. A host of others like Gracious, Early Lucifer's Friend, .......I don't know,..you must observe closely the jam sections and connect it buy sampling some instrumental sections of Purple's music. I often get the impression that Deep Purple were influenced by Keith Emerson's The Nice. Ritchie Blackmore filled in for Davy O' List one night and the event was recorded. I've seen it listed twice and it may be a bootleg. I can see Blackmore fitting in with The Nice. Blackmore had already been working with classical musician Jon Lord. They seemed to have ties with the prog world due to their idea of combining Classical modes to hard rock. Proggers took the idea and combined it with a softer melodic approach however, they couldn't hide that Deep Purple sound. If you've been a listener for decades it's pretty easy to spot. |
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akin
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 07:03 | |
I don't think DP Mark II was very much influential to prog, more to hard rock. As DP Mark I wasn't influential either because, although prog, was pretty obscure, it is hard to vote based on influence to prog. On preference, I'd go with Mark I, because the three first albums are a mix of psychedelia and early prog rock,
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yanch
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Posted: July 26 2010 at 06:53 | |
Mark II as that's considered the "classic" line up and produced most of the songs that Seep Purple are known for.
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himtroy
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 12:21 | |
Shades of Deep Purple is more far out and progressive than any other albums they ever did so I'm going with that.
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The Quiet One
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 00:48 | |
That's not the point
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crimhead
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Posted: July 24 2010 at 00:44 | |
Went with DP II. I got to see them live and not version 1.0
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otto pankrock
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 18:48 | |
MK.II Although MK.I dabbled in prog. especially on the 3rd album, no one bought it. Stuff like Child in Time and The Mule had much more impact.
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Cactus Choir
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 10:18 | |
I think the Mark II band was more influential on both prog and hard rock largely by dint of it being more successful. Mark I was only really known for having the Hush hit single so probably thought of as a pop band(!) The psych/proto-prog material on the albums was quite good but to me it gives the impression of following trends rather than setting them, and Purple didn't really establish their own identity until In Rock.
Mark II was hard rock/heavy metal, but quite proggy live (eg the extended arrangements for Mandrake Root and Space Truckin) and sometimes in the studio with tracks like Child in Time and Fools. Edited by Cactus Choir - July 23 2010 at 10:19 |
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CPicard
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 09:47 | |
OK, it's about Deep Purple Mark I and Deep Purple Mark II. I thought it was about their first 2 LPS.
I voted for DP MII, for I think that, in spite of all, the younger generation of progressive bands have started to know DP by "Smoke on the Water" and LP like Machine Head or Made In Japan. Plus, from what I read, it seems that DP was first seen as a second rate Vanilla Fudge or Iron Butterfly. The critics were harsh when talking about Concerto for Band and Orchestra. In Rock is still appreciated as their "jailbreak" album. |
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Sean Trane
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 04:17 | |
I like both eras.
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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
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CinemaZebra
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 00:13 | |
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NotAProghead
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Posted: July 23 2010 at 00:02 | |
Right.
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Alitare
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Posted: July 22 2010 at 22:18 | |
Mark 1 was closer to prog, mark 2 was more influential to prog. Anyone who thinks book is mor einfluential than in rock....well they aren't too bright.
Influential isn't synonymous with good, though. |
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