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lucas 
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 Posted: February 27 2010 at 18:15 |
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As most progheads (at least I suppose so), I am open to practically all musical genres, therefore I don't judge a band by its name but by its material. And I must admit I quite like 'union', there are some flaws but overall it's a decent album.
Edited by lucas - February 27 2010 at 18:16
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 14:04 |
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I love 90125, and I'm less enthusiastic about Big Generator and Talk but they do have their moments. For me Union is a level less good, though. They should have avoided to make this album the way they did. Read: they shouldn't have let a producer and a record company take so much control. My least favourite of all the Yes albums I heard.
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lazland
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 13:19 |
 Epignosis wrote:
For what it's worth, I think 90125, Big Generator, and Talk are great albums. I loathe Union.
You may like it, and if you get it cheap, go for it! I mean, worst case scenario, you can write a one star review, right? 
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 13:02 |
^ True.
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:57 |
For what it's worth, I think 90125, Big Generator, and Talk are great albums. I loathe Union.
You may like it, and if you get it cheap, go for it! I mean, worst case scenario, you can write a one star review, right?
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rushfan4
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:57 |
As the saying goes, it is always best to judge for one's self. I'm pretty sure that you can probably find it pretty cheap in a bargain bin somewhere. I always see Magnification in the really cheap bargain bin, and it makes me sad since it is such an excellent album.
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Ricochet
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:57 |
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All Yes studio albums from 1987 till 1999 are bad, the rest has to do with differentiating.
I personally find Talk most excruciating, but that's actually a project that could have shined.
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:51 |
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^ Well, I'm a 90125 fan, and I listen to the best of pop music from time to time, so perhaps I should give this one a chance?
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rushfan4
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:44 |
Union is another one of those albums that I didn't know I was suppose to hate until I joined ProgArchives. But my tastes are poppier than most, so I guess that is just me being me.
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Epignosis
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:43 |
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I prefer Open Your Eyes to Union.
Union is Yes's only one star album to me. Everything about it is cheesy, overblown, and completely forgettable (except "Masquerade").
Scott rushfan4 likes the album though, I believe.
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JLocke
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Posted: February 27 2010 at 12:40 |
Okay, so I have avoided Yes' ''Union'' album for years now, because virtually every account I have heard involving hearing it has been bad. Even all the band members hate it, as far as I know. At least with TFTO, the internal opinions were split, a bit. The most classic criticism I have heard is when Bill Bruford referred to the record as ''Ghastly''.
Now . . . I have recently heard a couple of tunes from this 'dreadful' album, and . . . well . . . call me crazy, but it's not as bad as I was expecting.
Sure, what I have heard so far does indeed sound quite over-produced, echoey and full of pop stylings, but at the same time, the musicianship, song length and overall presentation struck me as much more complex and challenging than either of the prior Yes-west albums. I suppose that has something to do with ABWH teaming up with them for this effort.
So what say you? Is this album really as horrible as they say? Or has it gotten crucified unfairly?
Keep in mind, I haven't come close to hearing every song on this album, so i still don't have an opinion one way or the other; that's why I'm asking for opinions on here. I came across this album at a flea market last year. I'm debating whether or not to head down and see if it's still there. For a couple of bucks, I think I might as well try it out.
Let the opinions be heard.
Edited by JLocke - February 27 2010 at 12:41
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''Union''. It's terrible . . . really?
