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Mr ProgFreak
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Joined: November 08 2008
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:36 |
^ Thanks! I actually like both systems (collaborative approach vs. team oriented) ... most users will know me under my own user name (MikeEnRegalia), and that I helped to implement genre teams here at PA. I still like that approach, but especially from the perspective of normal users who have their own ideas about what is prog and what isn't, my website could be an interesting "experiment". Create an account and try to assign genre and progressiveness levels to your collection ... even by simply trying to do that you may gain some interesting insights into how difficult it can be.
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Queen By-Tor
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Joined: September 13 2006
Location: Xanadu
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:18 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
This is what we do at Progfreak.com. All the users can submit genre and prog status information for the albums (level 0 to 10, which is the same as 0% to 100%). Albums with a level of 4 or 5 are labelled as "prog-related", anything below 4 is Non-Prog, anything with at least level 6 is labelled as "Prog". To make it a bit more interesting, we also offer two separate tags: progressive approach and prog by style, which you can use to show that something is progressive but not similar in style to the traditional prog bands (high progressive approach level, but low prog by style level) or that something is similar in style to the original prog bands, but not "truly" progressive (high prog by style level, but low progressive approach level).
Sorry for plugging my website once more, but people keep asking about things that PF provides solutions for ... 
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Well, it's a good solution!
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LinusW
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:15 |
King By-Tor wrote:
Or we could just come up with teams of people who know their stuff and
have them vote on each band that is considered for inclusion - reliable
people who are known by the site and are consistently active and
participative. Maybe have a few charts where we could track their
decisions as to votes on the band and if the band should be moved from
one subgenre to another. These people could also handle the artist
additions, add the discographies and write the bios for the bands. How about that?
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I like it. I've seen it implemented on one site as well.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Joined: November 08 2008
Location: Sweden
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:12 |
This is what we do at Progfreak.com. All the users can submit genre and prog status information for the albums (level 0 to 10, which is the same as 0% to 100%). Albums with a level of 4 or 5 are labelled as "prog-related", anything below 4 is Non-Prog, anything with at least level 6 is labelled as "Prog". To make it a bit more interesting, we also offer two separate tags: progressive approach and prog by style, which you can use to show that something is progressive but not similar in style to the traditional prog bands (high progressive approach level, but low prog by style level) or that something is similar in style to the original prog bands, but not "truly" progressive (high prog by style level, but low progressive approach level). Sorry for plugging my website once more, but people keep asking about things that PF provides solutions for ...
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Queen By-Tor
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Joined: September 13 2006
Location: Xanadu
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:12 |
Or we could just come up with teams of people who know their stuff and
have them vote on each band that is considered for inclusion - reliable
people who are known by the site and are consistently active and
participative. Maybe have a few charts where we could track their
decisions as to votes on the band and if the band should be moved from
one subgenre to another. These people could also handle the artist
additions, add the discographies and write the bios for the bands. How about that?
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Valdez
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Joined: September 17 2005
Location: United States
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:12 |
I would not give madonna 0.001% though. These days it seems prog is whatever you want it to be, I still like the term "Underground Rock"!
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https://bakullama1.bandcamp.com/album/sleepers-2024
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Delta Savant 13
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Joined: November 29 2008
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Points: 6
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Posted: January 25 2009 at 12:06 |
I just had this idea,  so I thought I would run it up the flagpole and see who salutes. In answer to the endless discussions of whether certain bands/artists are "prog" or not ( which I am, quite frankly, getting tired of!), I suggest that ALL bands are prog, but to varying degrees. For example, Yes would be 100% prog, and Madonna would be about 0.001% prog. The Who would be about 35% prog. So the arguments arise from the differing standards of the listeners, rather than the music. Thus someone who will not call anything with a prog level of less than 95% "prog" will not accept the Who, but someone else who gladly welcomes anyone with a prog level over 25% will certainly call them prog. But at the most fundamental level, EVERYTHING IS PROG. In light of this, when considering an artist for inclusion, we just poll the members on how prog they think it is (from 0 to 100 percent), and then compare the resulting number to a predetermined prog cutoff point of 40% or whatever.  Has anyone suggested something like this before?
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...and if I claim to be a wise man, it surely means that I don't know.
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