Steely Dan appreciation thread

I support It Bites' move to Prog Related, since it was brought up. Sooo not Eclectic.


Edited by Ricochet - September 01 2008 at 14:00

E-Dub wrote: micky wrote: hahahha.. .  love the silent majority... someone who has been following this.. but wants to stay out this (says I am doing a fine job)  asks me to post this. http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=748 listen to those samples... then listen to ...pretty much anything by SD. I am on record as saying that I don't consider It Bites (where this link takes you) to be very progressive upon hearing Eat Me In St. Louis a couple of years ago. Even started a thread, if memory serves. A friend has loaned me The Big Lad In The Windmill and Once Around The World and the sound is very Duran Duran-ish...especially TBLiTW. I like Once Around The World a lot and it's a bit more progressive. Even ordered it the other day. E

yeah... about my thoughts as well

the point I was obviously  to make though was the obvious one ... not to bash on It Bites......  was to reinforce the notion that what  is prog to one.. . is sometimes not prog to others.

Not completely innocent here, Micky. I may not agree, but still took an appreciation thread and used it as a soapbox. For that, I do apologize.

But you know what really hacks me off? They're not coming through KC on this tour!!! Both me and my wife love Steely Dan and I know she'd enjoy this show. Would really love to catch these guys before I'm 'room temperature".

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My advice: if you're going to add somebody THIS controversial, then you better be prepared to get heat. The fact that I'm a collab has NOTHING to do with it, Micky. If I'm asked to be robotic and to turn off my feelings in order to be a collab, then strip me of the friggin' title now because that's not how I"m wired. I'm just afraid this prog chicken salad is turning into prog chicken sh*t (pains me to say that about one of my favorite bands, though).

E

That's not fair, Micky. Facts weren't being divulged and I brought them out. You don't like it and I'm sorry; however, I'm done dinking around here. I'm being told that I have no clue as to what's going on and there's this mountainous wave of support for this when there isn't. I can go through here and stack up arguments against that would crush the arguments for.

Steely Dan is here and you've won, Micky. Congratulations! You've beaten the odds and added a band who doesn't belong here. You dissect any number of bands and you're going to find bits and pieces of progressive music. Listen to Dave Matthews' "The Dreaming Tree" and it sounds progressive. I hear a little prog in the Counting Crows' "Recovering The Satellites" or in Journey's "Escape".  I just think we're venturing into dangerous territory here being that we're a site specializing in progressive music.

And I'm sorry if I've put a bend in our friendship. I've stuck up for you plenty of times too--that street runs both ways. And, yes, I appreciate you being behind me during a difficult time. You say you were joking and I believe you; however, I don't think anyone likes to be called "unbalanced". We're just two guys not seeing eye to eye on something and I felt that being on this side that I didn't "know enough". That's all I have to say about it.


Edited by E-Dub - August 31 2008 at 21:52

<<You seem a bit unbalanced here Eric>>

Excuse me, Micky? You want to elaborate on this? I'm 'unbalanced'? Who was the one wanting to take a few days away from PA because they were 'hurt' by all of the backlash? Let's make no illusions about it...a lot of people felt it wasn't a good fit. There is no 'silent majority'. We were loud and clear. End of story.

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that would be the one.. thanks Greg 

Easy Livin wrote:     I appreciate that this is intended to be an appreciation thread, but if the pro SD folks prolong the discussion relating to the wider issue of the addition, those against must also be permitted to respond.

  and that is the end of discussion regarding this.. thanks Bob..and if there are further posts here .. not regarding the thread starters purpose. I know you'll move them.  If responding to posts is prolonging a thread.. what does that say abut those who use an appreciation thread to question an addition

and don't answer that   and I will leave off topic posts alone and trust they are moved with the same alacrity that other off topic responses are in other threads. 

and back on topic.. .starting a new review.. of an album that all have to have.. and hear.

hahahha.. .  love the silent majority... someone who has been following this.. but wants to stay out this (says I am doing a fine job)  asks me to post this.

http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=748

listen to those samples... then listen to ...pretty much anything by SD.




where is all this coming from.. it isn't the music.

Isn't that what we are here for... that is what my job as a collaborator is about.


Edited by micky - August 31 2008 at 13:06

Just how do you know who does and doesn't know the group? Not being a wise a**, but just curious. Was a poll taken?

And don't kid yourself, Micky. I saw a lot of people in the CZ who didn't approve.

And with it being a collaborative site, I think everyone is entitled to voice their opinions. I haven't appreciated that simply because some of us don't agree we've been labeled as closed minded.

You know what? It's over and done with and you won't hear anymore from me. Me and the family are heading out to a water park before they close for the winter and I'm in a pretty good mood; however, It will be interesting to see if the same mindset within those involved is present when Sting, Phil, Toto, Journey, etc. are proposed.

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