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I kind of understand this comment if Neo Prog was just IQ, Arena or Marillion but what about Frost*, Galahad or even the recent album by Norwegian band Infringement that moves away from what I commonly think of as Neo Prog (ie prog with a defined musical structure that is heavily influenced by Genesis)?
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Some things never change. First attempt to reply vanished into the ether behind a access denied error. Fortunately a partial copy was in the clipboard, so I'll fill the remainder and try again.
These are today's picks. Probably a little different tomorrow. Many of these subs have very broad scopes. RIO is like ordering Indian food, there are very distinct spice levels to be aware of. For Electronic, the album I chose is my favorite in the sub, but arguably not an electronic album. I dislike 99.9% of Neo-Prog. Fortunately, the album I chose is decidedly not Neo-Prog. - Canterbury Scene: Supersister - Present From Nancy (1970) - Crossover Prog: Moody Blues - Days of Future Past (1967) - Eclectic Prog: Squintaloo - Über Bord!(2017) - Experimental/Post Metal: Virus - Carheart (2003) - Heavy Prog: Laundry - Blacktongue (1994) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: The only one I and probably 90% of everyone else actually ever heard. - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Panzerballett - Star Stücke (2008) - Krautrock: Amon DüülII - Yeti (1970) - Neo-Prog: Rivendell - Sisyfos (2018) - Post-Rock/Math Rock: The Physics House Band - The Incident At 3rd (2021) - Prog Folk: Jethro Tull - A Passion Play (1973) - Progressive Electronic: Heldon - Stand By(1979) - Progressive Metal: Pain ofSalvation - Be [Live] (2009) - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Slift - Ilion (2024) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Nebelnest - Nova Express (2002) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Alphataurus - Alphataurus (1973) - Symphonic Prog: Yes - Yessongs (1973) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Exivious - Exivious (2009) - Zeuhl: Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré (2009) - Prog Related: Black Sabbath - Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath (1973) - Proto-Prog: The Who - Tommy (1973) |
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Prog Britannia: 1968
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 44698 |
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The only way I can do this is by taking it one year and one nation at a time, so here goes......
Prog Britannia: 1967 ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() I'll have a few more sub-genres of prog to add in later years.
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Symphonic Prog: Yes The Yes Album Eclectic Prog : King Crimson Lizard Rock Progressivo Italiano: PFM Per un amico Canterbury Scene: Soft Machine Volume Two RIO/Avant Prog: Henry Cow Western Culture Zeuhl: Magma Attahk Prog Folk: Jethro Tull Songs from the Wood Neo Prog: Marillion Script for a Jester's Tear Heavy Prog: Uriah Heep The Magician's Birthday Jazz-Rock/Fusion: RTF Where Have I Known You Before Crossover Prog: Roxy Music s/t Psychedelic/Space Rock: Hawkwind Warrior on the Edge of Time Prog Related: Vangelis Earth Proto Prog: Deep Purple Burn Krautrock: Can Landed Progressive Electronic: Klaus Schulze Cyborg Progressive Metal: Dream Theater The Astonishing Experimental/Post Metal: Astrohenge s/t Technical/Extreme Metal: The Haarp Machine Disclosure Post Rock/Math Rock: Colaris Renawal Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Okko Bekker Sitar & Electronics
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2020- (some categories left blank where I have nothing)
Canterbury: Zopp - Dominion Crossover: Weather Systems - Ocean Without A Shore Eclectic Prog: Motopyscho - Ancient Astronauts Experimental/Post Metal: A Swarm Of The Sun - An Empire Heavy Prog: Crown Lands - Fearless Indo Prog/Raga Prog: Jazz Rock/Fusion: Krokofant - Fifth Krautrock: Neo Prog: Arena - The Theory Of Molecular Inheritance Post Rock/Math Rock: Versa - A Voyage A Destination Part 2 Prog Folk: Lumsk - Fremmede Toner Progressive Electronic: Zombi - Direct Inject Progressive Meral: Kingcrow - Hopium Psychedelic/Space Rock: Agusa - Prima Materia RIO/Avant Prog: Black Midi - Calvacade or Hellfire (no preference) RPI: Logos - Sadako e le mill gru di carta Symphonic Prog: Lars Fredrick Froislie - Fire Foretellinger Tech Extreme Metal: Animals As Leaders - Parrhesia Various Genres: Zeuhl: Proto Prog: Deep Purple - Whoosh! Prog Related: Jon Anderson - Jon Anderson & The Band Geeks: True |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38085 |
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And the 70s...
- Canterbury: Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom (1974) - Crossover Prog: The Alan Parsons Project - I Robot (1977) - Eclectic Prog: Van der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts (1971) - Experimental/Post Metal: n/a - Heavy Prog: Black Widow - Sacrifice (1970) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Andre Fertier's Clivage - Mixtus Orbis (1978) - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Herbie Hancock - Crossings (1972) - Krautrock: Brave New World - Impressions on Reading Aldous Huxley (1972) - Neo-Prog: ? - Post-Rock/Math Rock: n/a - Prog Folk: Spirogyra - Bells, Boots And Shambles (1973) - Progressive Electronic: Franco Leprino - Integrati... Disintegrati (1977) - Progressive Metal: n/a - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Pink Floyd - Meddle (1971) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Geinoh Yamashirogumi - Osorezan / Dou no Kenbai (1976) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Franco Battiato - Sulle Corde di Aries (1973) - Symphonic Prog: Earth and Fire - Song of the Marching Children (1971) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: n/a - Zeuhl: Magma - Kobaïa (1970) - Various Genres/Artists: Jesus Christ Superstar (1970) - Prog Related: David Bowie - Hunky Dory (1971) - Proto-Prog: The Who - Quadrophenia (1973) By the way, while I have tried to acknowledge people's posts thus far, I am going to be off-site for some time. Thanks for the posts and lists. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. Edited by Logan - December 24 2024 at 20:16 |
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These are some preferred albums taken from PA's categories from the 1980s. It's not about whether the album is suitable to the category, but where it is included in PA. PA has an "all albums by an act are found under one category" limitation.
- Canterbury: Picchio dal Pozzo - Abbiamo Tutti I Suoi Problemi (1980) - Crossover Prog: Kate Bush - Hounds Of Love (1985) - Eclectic Prog: The Penguin Cafe Orchestra - The Penguin Cafe Orchestra (1981) - Experimental/Post Metal: ? - Heavy Prog: Devil Doll - The Girl Who Was ... Death (1989) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Codona - Codona 3 (1983) - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Abus Dangereux - Le Quatrieme Mouvement (1980) - Krautrock: Holger Czukay (w/ Jah Wobble & Jaki Liebezeit) - Full Circle (1982) - Neo-Prog: Twelfth Night - Fact and Fiction (1982) - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Swans - Children Of God (1987) - Prog Folk: Dead Can Dance - Spleen and Ideal (1985) - Progressive Electronic: Zanov - In Course of Time (1982) - Progressive Metal: ? - Psychedelic/Space Rock: The Legendary Pink Dots - The Golden Age (1989) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Art Zoyd - Le mariage du ciel et de l'enfer (1985) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Fabio Frizzi - L'aldilà (1981) - Symphonic Prog: Bacamarte - Depois do Fim (released 1983, recorded 1979) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Voivod - Nothingface (1989) - Zeuhl: Eskaton - 4 visions (1981) - Various Genres/Artists: ? - Prog Related: Terry Riley - Shri Camel (1980) - Proto-Prog: The Who - It's Hard (1982) |
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And a 1990's one.
- Canterbury: Robert Wyatt - Shleep (1997) - Crossover Prog: Stereolab - Dots and Loops (1997) - Eclectic Prog: Il Berlione - Il Berlione (1992) - Experimental/Post Metal: Neurosis - Through Silver in Blood (1996) - Heavy Prog: Morte Macabre - Symphonic Holocaust (1998) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: ? - Jazz Rock/Fusion: One Shot - One Shot (1999) - Krautrock: Holger Czukay - Moving Pictures (1993) - Neo-Prog: ? - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Swans - Soundtracks for the Blind (1996) - Prog Folk: Dead Can Dance - Into The Labyrinth (1993) - Progressive Electronic: Coil - Musick to Play in the Dark (1999) - Progressive Metal: ? - Psychedelic/Space Rock: The Legendary Pink Dots - The Crushed Velvet Apocalypse (1990) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Cardiacs - Sing to God (1996) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: ? - Symphonic Prog: Änglagård - Hybris (1992) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Voivod - The Outer Limits (1993) - Zeuhl: Bondage Fruit - Bondage Fruit I (1994) - Various Genres/Artists: ? - Prog Related: Nature and Organisation - Beauty Reaps the Blood of Solitude (1994) - Proto-Prog: ? |
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And 2000-2009:
- Canterbury: Robert Wyatt - Cuckooland (2003) - Crossover Prog: Radiohead - Kid A (2000) - Eclectic Prog: Willam D. Drake - Briny Hooves (2007) - Experimental/Post Metal: Boris - Flood (2000) - Heavy Prog: Maxwell's Demon – Prometheus (2001) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Saturnia - Muzak (2006) - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Shibusashirazu - Shibuboshi (2004) - Krautrock: Electric Orange – Platte (2003) - Neo-Prog: Marc Ceccotti - Sometimes Around Saturn (2008) - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas to Heaven (2000) - Prog Folk: North Sea Radio Orchestra - North Sea Radio Orchestra (2006) - Progressive Electronic: Coil - The Ape of Naples (2005) - Progressive Metal: Diablo Swing Orchestra - Sing-Along Songs for the Damned & Delirious (2009) - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Ghost - Hypnotic Underworld (2004) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Guapo - Black Oni (2005) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: Fabio Frizzi - Sette note in nero (with Bixio and Tempera) (archival, released 2006) - Symphonic Prog: Kotebel - Omphalos (2006) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: unsure - Zeuhl: Magma - Ëmëhntëhtt-Ré (2009) - Various Genres/Artists: Various Artists - Hamtaï! Hommage à la musique de Christian Vander (2007) - Prog Related: The Flaming Lips - Embryonic (2009) - Proto-Prog: ? Edited by Logan - December 24 2024 at 17:48 |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38085 |
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Thanks to George (Mathman) for coming up with the first yearly list in this topic. That's an approach that is close to my heart as it not only shows our interests across categories but also depending on era.
A 2010s favoured by me list... - Canterbury: Amoeba Split - Dance of the Goodbyes (2010) - Crossover Prog: Susanne Sundfør - Ten Love Songs (2015) - Eclectic Prog: Motorpsycho (& Ståle Storløkken) - The Death Defying Unicorn (2012) - Experimental/Post Metal: Uboa - The Sky May Be (2018) - Heavy Prog: Anekdoten - Until All the Ghosts Are Gone (2015) - Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: ? - Jazz Rock/Fusion: Guillaume Perret & The Electric Epic - Guillaume Perret & The Electric Epic (2012) - Krautrock: Kosmischer Läufer - Volume 3 (2016) - Neo-Prog: Duster - Duster (2019) - Post-Rock/Math Rock: Swans - The Glowing Man (2016) - Prog Folk: North Sea Radio Orchestra - I a Moon (2011) - Progressive Electronic: Alio Die - Deconsecrated and Pure (2012) - Progressive Metal: Diablo Swing Orchestra - Pacifisticuffs (2017) - Psychedelic/Space Rock: Kikagaku Moyo - House in the Tall Grass (2016) - RIO/Avant-Prog: Le Silo - Yamai (2019) - Rock Progressivo Italiano: ? - Symphonic Prog: Karda Estra - Mondo Profondo (2013) - Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: ? - Zeuhl: Zwoyld - 200 000 (2014) - Various Genres/Artists: Various Artists - Leader of the Starry Skies: A Tribute to Tim Smith, Songbook 1 (2010) - Prog Related: David Bowie - Blackstar (2016) - Proto-Prog: ? Edited by Logan - December 24 2024 at 16:54 |
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A 2020s list from me
Canterbury: Amoeba Split - Quiet Euphoria (2023) Crossover Prog: The Smile - Wall of Eyes (2024) Eclectic Prog: Gösta Berlings Saga - Konkret Musik (2020) Experimental/Post Metal: Uboa - Impossible Light (2024) Heavy Prog: ? Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Saturnia - Stranded in the Green (2021) Jazz Rock/Fusion: Elephant9 - Arrival of the New Elders (2021) Krautrock: Kosmischer Läufer - Volume 5 (2023) Neo-Prog: Duster - Together (2022) Post-Rock/Math Rock: Swans - The Beggar (2023) Prog Folk: Richard Dawson - The Ruby Cord (2022) Progressive Electronic: Cosmic Ground - 0110 (2020) Progressive Metal: ? Psychedelic/Space Rock: Kikagaku Moyo - Kumoyo Island (2022) RIO/Avant-Prog: black midi - Hellfire (2022) Rock Progressivo Italiano: ? Symphonic Prog: ? Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: ? Zeuhl: Magma - Kartehl (2022) Various Genres/Artists: ? Prog Related: The Flaming Lips - American Head (2020) Proto-Prog: ? Edited by Logan - December 24 2024 at 14:14 |
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A 60's list from me
Canterbury Scene: The Soft Machine - Volume Two (1969) Crossover Prog: David Axelrod - Song of Innocence (1968) Eclectic Prog: East of Eden - Mercator Projected (1969) Heavy Prog: Writing on the Wall - Power of the Picts (1969) Indo-Prog/Raga Rock: Clark Hutchinson - A=mh2 (1969) Jazz Rock/Fusion: Miles Davis - In a Silent Way (1969) Krautrock: Amon Düül II - Phallus Dei (1969) Prog Folk: The Pentangle - Basket of Light (1969) Progressive Electronic: Mort Garson - The Zodiac - Cosmic Sounds (1967) Psychedelic/Space Rock: Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis - Catherine Ribeiro + 2Bis (1969) RIO/Avant-Prog: Franks Zappa - Hot Rats (1969) Rock Progressivo Italiano: Le Orme - Ad Gloriam (1969) Symphonic Prog: Renaissance - Renaissance (1969) Prog Related: Terry Riley - A Rainbow in Curved Air (1969) Proto-Prog: The Doors - The Doors (1967) |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: Vancouver, BC Status: Offline Points: 38085 |
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Thanks. Yes, find the classifications can be more than a bit confusing. My first choice from the Neo-Prog category, Duster, doesn't sound at all like Neo-Prog to me... sounds like Neo-Space Rock/ Neopsych, and I would not have expected Uboa to be in a metal category (I would like a new category for experimental/ industrial and related music). Not having genre multi-tagging and not being able to label albums is an unfortunate limitation of this site. Of course the teams try to do do the best they reasonably can given the limitations of this site and the voluntary workload they can take on. I have not liked the term Krautrock either, but it has become widely accepted.
It's a remarkable album to my ears. I'll be looking into more Portuguese folk related music, and keep up with the studies and playing! I wish that I were more of a musician than I am.
None of those are in my collection either, but I do stream a lot. None of them are personal favourites, but they seemed to fit your "ask" fairly well. For a better group, you could try Agitation Free (I just thought it might get too out there for you) which I mentioned but did not include specific music. I should started with the primo stuff. There is way more to Krautrock of course than Can. Formentera Lady's recommendation to you I am now listening to... :) Edited by Logan - December 23 2024 at 10:21 |
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Thanks Rich... Eloy: Reincarnation is a surprisingly wonderful album for an artist in his late autumn of musical life... though I love the vibrancy of Live (1978) too TD: I could easily have picked Ricochet, Encore, Logos, Pergamon, Poland or even Live Miles... I really enjoy them all. Rush: I just love the song selection; it was them at their most interesting period, even tho the production is a tad muddy. Anathema: A classic example of when the live album becomes greater than the sum of the studio parts.. they are the very best sort. IQ: I don't listen to much Neo these days, so I'm not best placed to judge, but this to me will always be the best Neo live album out there.
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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Thanks Greg... can't imagine I'll add any to my small collection, but they were all good to hear.
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Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson
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I love all those although Eloy Live with the mighty Jurgen Rosenthal on drums would be my pick for that band. Glad you love that TD album, my favourite live TD album as well although the full unedited version of Logos is great as well. With Rush I tend to go with Different Stages which sounds a bit heavier but I still own my original vinyl copy of Exit Stage Left. It seemed at the time all the Rush you could ever need. Anathema's live album is a fantastic document of this wonderful band. You want predicatable? I have Weather Systems - Ocean Without A Shore Number One for the year
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Logan, yes, I noticed you picked Morte Macabre, too, one of the best albums of the 90's! So at least we completely agree on one album!
Changed: We completely agree on two albums! Also Jesus Christ Superstar (1970) is one of our favourites! ![]() While creating the list I had some surprising moments. For example, in Heavy Prog I was looking for Opeth, only to find out they were listed in Tech/Extreme. And then I found Morte Macabre was there, although I thought it was in Eclectic, so I voted that. Then in Progressive Metal I looked for Leprous, only to find they were also in Tech/Extreme. And in Tech/Extreme I was looking for Scale the Summit, only to find them in Progressive Metal, what a mess! ![]() About Krautrock: I agree that the concept I do not understand either. Also the term 'Krautrock' I do not like, because 'Kraut' was used in a derogatory way to depict a German. I simply scrolled through the list and selected the album I like most, without thinking about the sense of the category. Jared, I do not know what you mean with 'guitar/keys driven Krautrock' but how about my selection Uhrsprung by Oktober? The sound is very similar to symphonic prog of the 70's in a somewhat Genesis-like style. Check also my review about the album.
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^^ Thanks FL. Morte Macabre's was my first pick from the Heavy Prog category too. Also Adore Red, love the Heldon and really like various others in the list. Kind of a funny idea, I guess, depending on perspective. I do like funny! Even if I rarely manage it the way I want. ;) I like to see people tastes across categories, as well as comparing lists. Also kind of interesting to see people's approaches, who feels comfortable enough (and makes the time) to come up with a list and who does not.
Another way would be to check out the top albums per category using the top 100 or top 250 albums chart and checking each category. I know for some it is too hard to choose one, but I find there are many strategies to limit that, like what was the last album you remember hearing and liking from the category. Ones you have spun the most times. One's current mood. Limiting decade or year etc. I doubt many of us would have many liked from every category at PA. ------------------------------- Jared; nice on the lives. Like the Rush, love that Renaissance live. As for Krautrock, it is a broad brush and PA does limit what it puts in there. Can took me ages to really get into. My first Krautrock (as PA categorises it) love was Agitation Free, which I suggest trying at some time. From the Krautrock category, I suggest Jean-Jacques Kravetz's Kravetz from 1972. Then Sperrmüll is quite like early Eloy if you can enjoy that period. You might like some Mythos and Electric Sandwich. The debut by Mythos is pretty well known and I think it might get too out there for you, but here is the less-known Strange Guys from 1978: Edited by Logan - December 22 2024 at 10:20 |
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