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Frankh
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 23:48 |
stegor wrote:
Is it just me or is The Yes Album better than either one? It shouldn't be. There's no Wakeman or Roger Dean. In fact the cover is pretty lame. But it was the first one I heard and it occupies that same sweet spot in my memory as Aqualung and Dark Side.
| The Yes Album ends up almost being their mission statement. There's a palpable purity of purpose there that may never have appeared as intensely again. Also, Fragile may be more interesting, yes. Less passionate! Not that it was sans passion: Heart Of The Sunrise. And also not that Close To The Edge was entirely lacking technically interesting material: The Solid Time Of Change, essentially a structured jam managed to be both passionate and challenging to the listener. Do not sell Siberian Khatru short. Not just a rocker, "the" actual rocker on the album; the continuous morphing of the song from one place to another, one thing to another is something Yes tried to do many times in the course of their career(s) with varied but seldom as great success. This gives it the gravitas somehow to be a grand classic album's suitable and worthy conclusion.
Edited by Frankh - October 14 2017 at 00:04
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 22:54 |
BrufordFreak wrote:
While CttE is more polished and perfect, flows amazingly well, I have always felt way more connected to Fragile. The individuals, all, shine so well on all of the songs, not just the "solo" compositions. And there are many more "peak" moments on Fragile than on CttE (though there are also more lows). I have always rated and favored Fragile more highly. |
Pretty much sums up how I would’ve put it
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stegor
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 21:16 |
Is it just me or is The Yes Album better than either one? It shouldn't be. There's no Wakeman or Roger Dean. In fact the cover is pretty lame. But it was the first one I heard and it occupies that same sweet spot in my memory as Aqualung and Dark Side.
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siLLy puPPy
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 19:58 |
Big Generator blows the both of their asses out of the water. LOVE WILL FIND AWAY rules!!!!
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Manuel
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 19:38 |
I think both albums are quite different, but equally good an important. Fragile was first, and was the last step before the most creative, classic, progressive period of yes' music. CTTE was the first full album of that period, and it was an amazing era not only for Yes, but for progressive music in general, but without Fragile taking them into that direction, it would have never happened.
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The.Crimson.King
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 18:01 |
CttE...well, I've never been a fan of Siberian Khatru so that's always kept it from being a 5 star equal to Tales & Relayer for me. As far as Fragile goes, I think the solo pieces drag it down a bit and sound somehow out of place, so it's never been my fave Yes album either. If only Khatru were on Fragile and Heart of the Sunrise were on CttE
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BrufordFreak
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 17:15 |
While CttE is more polished and perfect, flows amazingly well, I have always felt way more connected to Fragile. The individuals, all, shine so well on all of the songs, not just the "solo" compositions. And there are many more "peak" moments on Fragile than on CttE (though there are also more lows). I have always rated and favored Fragile more highly.
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mlkpad14
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 17:08 |
Personally, I have never been too big on Fragile. CTTE is way more experimental and interesting in my opinion. It is fun to listen to whenever I am in the mood for it.
Quality is not the ultimate value when comparing albums. The whole entire avant-garde and experimental movements favor the "interesting" ones way more. The other day I heard the post-rock album Spiderland (by Slint), for the very first time. That album was so interesting, and I definitely was not paying attention to its quality the first time I listened to it. Later on, I realized just how good the quality was as well, but well, that was besides the point.
That being said, quality has to be there. It would be irritating if musicians decided to record drums through the "voice recording" option on GarageBand (it produces a very scratchy sound that does not exactly resonate with the ear.)
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condor
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Posted: October 13 2017 at 16:49 |
Or is Fragile infinitely more inventive and dramatic than CTTE?
Also, why is quality the ultimate value when comparing albums? Fragile isn't as good, but is miles more interesting.
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