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Prog1611
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Joined: May 14 2005
Location: United States
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Points: 54
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 22:15 |
I have been listening to Prog since I was 13. A born-again, Bible believing Christian since 28. I have been saved for nearly 20 years, am currently a member of an old time Baptist church, have read the KJV 1611 Bible from cover to cover more times then I remember and have preached the Word 100's of times from pulpits, on street corners, in rescue missions, care homes and more places that I can remember. Though i have been Born again, and much of my life has changed and most of my old sins have passed away, there remains some things that have not. i still surf, enjoy an occasional cold beer and I still love Prog! many of my brethren are apalled or even offended that i still listen to the music of the world, but God knows my heart, I love Prog.. Now, to the issue at hand, is ELP against christianity? Or are ELP against Christ?
First of all, The Bible states " Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is anti-Christ, that denieth both the Father and the Son....1 John 2:22
According to the Bible, any man that denys the Diety of the man Christ is a liar and is anti-Christ and for that one could say that Greg Lake (if he be the writing of those lyrics is certainly anti-Christ) as with so many other artist. Christ said " He that is not with me is against me"..Matt. 12:30 This is the "narrow minded" doctrine of the Christian faith that so many despise and I believe..
But the second point to be made is the fact that many of these men are not so much against Christ as they are against the hypocrisy of what has become know as "Christianity" We all can see how the professed churches of our day have become sepulchres of Hypocrisy and the life of the religion, it;s buildings and it's assests is of far more impotance then the life of a soul, and I often find this attitude against the churches Hypocrisy prevalent is music. And to this I agree. A classic example of this is the song "Wind up" from Aqualung. Anderson slams the Bishops and their hypocrisys while all the while crying out "He is not the kind you have to wind up on Sunday!" I must stop. Against Christ? It is to their shame.. Against the hypocrisy of religion? I say AMEN.....
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Where wast thou when I laid the foundations of the earth? declare if thou hast understanding?
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Lateralus_66
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 03 2005
Location: Fiji
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Points: 118
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 22:10 |
alan_pfeifer wrote:
AtomHeartMother wrote:
I thought the people here liked the music for the music, not for who
the players are, how they think, or who they worship. Atleast I haven't
heard any one here say "Queen is bad because the lead singer is gay." I
can't count how many times I have heard that in mainstream
reviews. Another thing, there have been countless fans of Elton John
that just abandoned him because of his sexual preferance. So sad.
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Some people want to know a bit about their artists, and what
inspires them. if ELP's members wrote lyrics about their dislike
of the church, it's still something people may want to know.
but odn't worry, I think most prog fans can look beyond things
like religious or sexual preference and just look at the music.
Or at least the smart ones . |
Exactly right..! Music is free expression… Who gives a f about lyrics… They are just libretto…
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alan_pfeifer
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Joined: December 05 2004
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Points: 823
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:58 |
AtomHeartMother wrote:
I thought the people here liked the music for the music, not for who the players are, how they think, or who they worship. Atleast I haven't heard any one here say "Queen is bad because the lead singer is gay." I can't count how many times I have heard that in mainstream reviews. Another thing, there have been countless fans of Elton John that just abandoned him because of his sexual preferance. So sad.
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Some people want to know a bit about their artists, and what inspires them. if ELP's members wrote lyrics about their dislike of the church, it's still something people may want to know.
but odn't worry, I think most prog fans can look beyond things like religious or sexual preference and just look at the music. Or at least the smart ones .
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AtomHeartMother
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 18 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 229
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:51 |
I thought the people here liked the music for the music, not for who the players are, how they think, or who they worship. Atleast I haven't heard any one here say "Queen is bad because the lead singer is gay." I can't count how many times I have heard that in mainstream reviews. Another thing, there have been countless fans of Elton John that just abandoned him because of his sexual preferance. So sad.
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robertplantowns
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 27 2005
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Points: 333
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:28 |
Even the ELP lyrics aren't anti-Christian in particular (except for the
wine part). They're anti-monotheism or anti-religious in general
also.
Edited by robertplantowns
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Man Overboard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: November 07 2004
Location: Austin, TX
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Points: 3830
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:02 |
That's not anti-Christian in particular, that's just vulgar.
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Damen
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 04 2005
Location: United States
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Points: 1068
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 21:02 |
King of Loss wrote:
Hah, You want Anti-Christian?
Mayhem-Necrolust
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Eww...
Edited by Tony R
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"It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days."
-Chris Squire
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King of Loss
Prog Reviewer
Joined: April 21 2005
Location: Boston, MA
Status: Offline
Points: 16889
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:52 |
Hah, You want Anti-Christian?
Mayhem-Necrolust
Post edited from this point
Edited by Easy Livin
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Tony R
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: July 16 2004
Location: UK
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Points: 11979
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:49 |
ELP are a crime against Humanity.
I say ban them and burn their supporters!
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el_Sethro
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 07 2005
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 117
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:47 |
so?
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Who you gonna call?
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The Wizard
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 18 2005
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 7341
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Posted: August 10 2005 at 20:29 |
The lyrics of many ELP songs clearly are against Christianity:
People are stirred, moved by the Word Kneel at the shrine, deceived by the wine How was the Earth conceived, Infinite Space Is there such a place? You must believe in the human race Can you believe, "God makes you breathe?" Why did he lose six million Jews?... Who looks on Life itself, who lights your way? Only you can say How can you just obey? Don't need the Word, now that you've heard Don't be afraid, Man is Man-made And when the hour comes, don't turn away Face the light of day And do it your way...it's the only way.
The Only Way, Tarkus
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