Are drugs less common in prog?

oliverstoned wrote: Yes, fantastic book. The most psychedelic book ever.

It's one of the really great books.  I also recommend anything by Hunter S Thompson, especially Fear and Loathing in las Vegas, Kurt Vonnegut (anything), and I should probably stop there and we can create a thread!. 

 has anyone read "the electric kool-aid acid test" by tom wolfe?

 it chronicles the cross country bus trip (the "further") of ken (cuckoo's nest) kesey

and the merry pranksters, tripping on acid.

  the bus driver was neal cassidy of jack kerouac/"on the road" fame,

the subject of KC's "neal and jack and me". 

  i lived across the river from kesey's place (jasper ore.) in the early 80's,

the bus parked in the field behind the house.

 

 maybe we should make a new thread on counter culture literature?

k

 

Close up view of resin glands on MJ flower.

 of course, there's many mind altering substances that occur in nature.

 any naturopathic MD will tell you, almost any plant can reach toxic levels

if we consume enough. it's that certain mushrooms and plants become "toxic"

at lower levels, inviting abuse and creating a market.

 by the standard definition provided by the "authorities", chocolate and sex

could easily fall under the wikipedia definition of drugs...mind altering, addictive, ect.

 my original statement was that drugs are manufactured from baser elements,

pot is not. the corn in my garden is a vegetable, the stalk next to it is "drugs"....?

 i suppose grapes are drugs also, since they can be made into wine.

..the younger ones here have to realize-

the authorities attempt to demonize a culture that's spawned

great literature, works of art, and the very music we're congregated here to discuss.

 it's a sore spot for many of us "peacenik pinko hippies".

 not to worry, repeated listenings of TFTO won't lead you into a life of debauchery

k

 

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BaldJean wrote: krauthead wrote: BaldFriede wrote: Guru Guru guitarist Roland Schaeffer answered the question of "Elektrolurch" Mani Neumeier "Was bedeutet eigentlich der Name Guru Guru?" ("What does the name Guru Guru mean, by the way?"; this is one of the questions the Elektrolurch asks the band) with "Täglich fit mit 2 Gramm sh*t" (a little difficult to translate into English, but it is as if he said "an apple a day keeps the doctor away", only replacing "apple" with "2 grams of hashish") on the album "Guru Guru Live". And they announced they would now play the "silent trumpet" on stage in one concert, after which someone with a trumpet appeared on stage, and into the horn they had stuffed a gigantic joint. They all took a deep draw, and then they gave the trumpet to the audience. I know this from tales of my brother, who saw them on the 1976 or 1977 Brain Festival in Essen (don't know the exact year at the moment). Also they definitely didn't have a track named "Der LSD-Marsch" ("The LSD-March") on their first album for nothing.Gong, Hawkwind and Amon Düül 2 were excessive drug users too. Ash Ra Tempel and the Cosmic Jokers (basically the same band) were befriended with LSD-Guru Timothy Leary, which certainly says something about them too. Let's face it: Most of the early Krautrock is heavily drug-influenced. Thx for the info Freide, I didn't knew all this  Yes the early Krautrock is very drug-influenced and I'm not saying that all of them did drugs but even if bands like Amon Düül II would come out to the light and say that they were against drugs I wouldn't believe it one second. you only have to read the biography of Amon Düül ("Tanz der Lemminge" by Ingeborg Schober, who for some time was befriended with them) to know that they were big pot- and acidheads and did mandrax too

Yes great story!

I've heard a story of a Gong concert in France in the years 74/74 where David Allen was distributing acids to the whole public. The person who related the story has took one and it was a wonderful trip, according to him. The acid was excellent.

It said to be very powerful and intense.

BitchBrew wrote: Ehh, actually mrijuana is mostly made from the so called "buds" rather then from the leafs, allthougt the leafs to often are a compond.

 

Where I come from they call it heady, kind nugs.  The leafs are a compound???????

 

"We are representing the Hubble Gubble Tea Company of Tibet.  Would you like some tea???"

 

 

Ehh, actually mrijuana is mostly made from the so called "buds" rather then from the leafs, allthougt the leafs to often are a compond.

HELL YEAH!!!

 

BaldJean wrote: goose wrote: kirk wrote:  we weren't discussing hashish. we were discussing marijuana, aka the herb. Maybe we would have been, but you brought up pot, aka hash! hashish and marijuana are basically the same; both are products of <span style="font-style: italic;">Cannabis Indica</span>, a variation of the hemp plant. hashish is made from the resin, marijuana from the leaves of the plant; the active substance in both is <span style="font-weight: bold;">tetrahydrocannabinol</span>.

Yes, but actually there are about 80 active substances in MJ. There are less in H.