Genesis were bad to its fans.

Cristi wrote: BaldFriede wrote: I am a bit surprised that there have been so many posts in this, but no-one mentions the situation the band was in when they changed their sound. Genesis were not only bankrupt, they were left with a big minus on their bank account from tours that turned out to be too expensive, and there was the next contractual album looming above them. What would YOU have done in that situation?   wow, I've never heard of that. it's well known that that they did not make a lot of money during their progressive era, but still never thought of them as being bankrupt.

IIRC band politics had a fair bit to do with it as well. After Peter left, Tony became more or less the major creative force. At around the time of WAW the band was split because Tony and Mike, having tasted the success of ToTT, were very much interested in turning their music in a more commercial direction, while Phil and Steve were pretty adamant about staying the course. This pokes through a bit on WAW (Your Own Special Way...), but of course Steve wasn't very happy with the band and decided to quit, meaning that Tony and Mike now outnumbered Phil, and the more commercial avenue was set. Ironically enough, Phil was, of course, the one who would end up profiting the most from this new direction, but apparently he wasn't a fan originally.

I'm trying to remember if that's something I saw in an interview or if it's just a piece of knowledge I picked up back when I used to bang around the official Genesis forums. Either way it may not be true, so if someone could confirm one way or the other that would be cool.

Also, on a completely unrelated point, I heard Dancing With the Moonlit Knight on the radio today... they cut out the last two minutes or so though

Actually I guess it's not totally unrelated, because I do think it's interesting how today 70s Genesis gets more airplay than 80s Genesis, at least around here

One thing we all have to remember I think is when you are in a band or going solo, you make new music all the time. One album is a little different then the other one. You want as a musician play your new music at GIG's to show the fans and the audience what you have made new. And maybe when you tour the world or whatever. I would think the it's a bit " dissapointing" to hear all the time ...... Play this or play that ....I'm not a musician but i would have thought like that anyway.

Another thing about Genesis and the members. I agreed with you in some parts. That they maybe should have stayed to their roots. I lke the PG and SH era most. Some of the music after was a bit poppy for my taste. But if you take it for what it is. A step forward to the POP business to earn money. We can like it or not.

That said, if it's true what you said about PC shouting to the audience, it's not good off course, but maybe a bit frustation over what I earlier mentioned. Remember Roger Waters spitting on audience.

And one last thing, remember what happened to Bob Dylan after changing from Acustic to electric music. We as fans have our responsibilities to.

And just to mention it Michael Jackson died yesterday, that's sad even if we liked him or not