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 The main issue is that Paul was not stupid and FORCED a very high number, because he knew that Apple, like any other company would lie and cheat so much to not give out the payouts that they should to any artist out there.


What exactly did Paul do?

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Demanded the highest price ever paid an artist ... and there were other details I'm sure. Apple was appalled since it was almost twice the next artist they paid (Prince I believe it was), but they knew they did not have a choice and they would still make some money over it. But Paul and the Beatles would never learn how many times this or that song was sold, or how many albums were bought. But I sincerely doubt that sending someone like Paul a check at the end of the year for $632 dollars, is probably going to take the Beatles off Apple right away.
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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As far as the mainstream music industry is concerned, it's true that it is vile and disgusting. An industry that once produced The Beatles, Led Zeppelin and Queen have put all their energy into dance pop like Lady Gaga or "controlled" hip hop styles like Kanye West. In that regard music has deteriorated but why even focus on the powers that were when the new paradigm is still in its birth pangs?
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Careful with the words here ... check out the worst business decisions EVER made ... and the Beatles and Rolling Stones are 1 and 2. Led Zeppelin would also be there were it not for the father of progressive music who was a helper and friend to a young Jimmy Page. Queen was later. Lady Gaga, I can't speak about and won't. Kanye, is a part of the black rise in music and control.

I don't think that things have deteriorated at all ... except that we keep thinking that those were great and everything else is not. The real issue is that we have not given new things, and different things a good EAR and chance. You've heard your "favorite" 50 times ... but you have not heard a new something 2 or 3 times, and it has not grown on you because of it.

Music HAS NEVER DIED for hundreds and thousands of years. What has died is our ability to appreciate it and hear it. Opera is not dead ... our generation just won't hear it because it lacks the emotion that you want to see that is in rock music. Until this improves and a new Verdi and a new Puccini show up, the chances are that we will never look at that kind of music as valuable and important ... but for a long time, even its arias were some of the best known songs around.

We have to stop thinking that the world around us is dead, or dying. It's VERY ALIVE but we don't see that tree in our backyard doing great, or the new flowers about to start springing in the next couple of weeks. It's the same thing ... do we notice it? Or not.

We choose to not look at new music properly with the same verve and desire that we do the top 5 ... and if we did, we would not be saying that it was dead ... it's quite alive ... but not at PA where the articles would really only want to say that what was "progressive" for a few hours, is now dead. IT'S NOT DEAD ... it's there in a different way that we have not attuned out ears to, and worse ... we won't!


There is definitely a higher activation energy barrier in being proactive and listening to new music, as well as attuning oneself to what is going on around us in the present. The little things make life all the more enjoyable. There are a number of great points in your post. I find it difficult to listen to music beyond 1989 because of the differences in sound as compared to what my ears are accustomed to. But, for the sake of the new generations, it is definitely a worthy cause. That is a good resolution for 2022!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

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Led Zeppelin would also be there were it not for the father of progressive music who was a helper and friend to a young Jimmy Page.



Maybe you'll answer this question.

Who is the father of progressive music?
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He was known for Aphrodite's Child and Gentle Giant at the start ... you could say that the man had an ear for music! He had been doing a lot of studio stuff in London, and Jimmy Page was one of his studio players. Later he also worked with Gong, and was with them in their West Coast tour in 1999 when they did the SF Progressive Music Show, of which he was a brief speaker. He said at Gilly's birthday party that he was not the one. The music was!


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Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by MortSahlFan MortSahlFan wrote:

Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

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Led Zeppelin would also be there were it not for the father of progressive music who was a helper and friend to a young Jimmy Page.



Maybe you'll answer this question.

Who is the father of progressive music?
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He was known for Aphrodite's Child and Gentle Giant at the start ... you could say that the man had an ear for music! He had been doing a lot of studio stuff in London, and Jimmy Page was one of his studio players. Later he also worked with Gong, and was with them in their West Coast tour in 1999 when they did the SF Progressive Music Show, of which he was a brief speaker. He said at Gilly's birthday party that he was not the one. The music was!


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He's referring to Giorgio Gomelsky.
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I reccomed watching on youtube Rick Beatos going through of top 10 spotifylists, where he analyzes trends and quality controls the curent music. Very insightfull.
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Originally posted by Icarium Icarium wrote:

I reccomed watching on youtube Rick Beatos going through of top 10 spotifylists, where he analyzes trends and quality controls the curent music. Very insightfull.
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I watched it. Very interesting overview. 
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Can this be moved to General Music?
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