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Posted: September 15 2007 at 11:50

They`re a symbol of excessive greed. And the sound was crap.

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Posted: September 15 2007 at 12:56

SO, WHY DID YOU GO TO SEE THEM??? Confused

Also, they didn't do it for the money. It's really clear they don't need it, don't you think so?
BTW, the critics of all the performances were very good! I'd give a lot to have the chance to see them!

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Posted: September 15 2007 at 14:53

Because my friend got free tickets, my wife is out of town and I needed a good laugh last night. They are a pathetic band save for 3 albums which I actualy reviewed here. Check my reviews and you will see which albums I `m talking about.

Edited by Vibrationbaby - September 15 2007 at 15:00

Tony R

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Posted: September 15 2007 at 20:56

Well seeing as one of your reviews is of a live album that is in effect a compilation album, that statement isnt all too clear. Wink

However I agree with your basic sentiment about the tour.

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Posted: September 16 2007 at 01:28

Why are you going to see a show if you don't like the group or their music ? You better stay at home. I saw people today at the prog.fest who was there yesterday at the Mtl Olympic Stadium. Everybody is agreed: it was a great show. 39,999 people liked this show and Vibration, you are the only one to have not like it.

C'est la vie

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Posted: September 16 2007 at 06:14

So, the tour was not about money?

Why then did they charge £500 for front block tickets in the UK? £170 for the cheap seats??

Overheads? Why are their overheads larger than any other stadium band? Metallica didn't charge anything like that for their recent shows at Wembley Stadium. I saw REM two years ago for £40..

Not about money? mmm...

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Posted: September 16 2007 at 21:56

Sell-outs :(

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 10:46

Prog.Sylvie wrote:

Why are you going to see a show if you don't like the group or their music ? You better stay at home. I saw people today at the prog.fest who was there yesterday at the Mtl Olympic Stadium. Everybody is agreed: it was a great show. 39,999 people liked this show and Vibration, you are the only one to have not like it.

If you would have read down the whole thread you would have saw that I mentioned that I got

FREE TICKETS
And, if 39,999 people jumped off a cliff I don`t think I would be following them.

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 11:11

Tony R wrote:

Well seeing as one of your reviews is of a live album that is in effect a compilation album, that statement isnt all too clear. Wink

However I agree with your basic sentiment about the tour.

Then I`ll clear it up. The Genesis live album from `73 is all you need from the band`s early period. I had written a review but wasn`t satified with it and deleted it and just haven`t gotten around to rewriting it.

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 11:27

Even if you had free ticket, you should have stay home, this way we would have avoyed all your negative impressions ( we don't need it), and you would not have spend some money on beer, and transportation...

C'est la vie

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 11:46

Prog.Sylvie wrote:

We snuck the bottle of scotch in and we took the Metro which costs only $2.75 each way which doesn`t break my bank. By the way, where`s your big review on this Montréal Prog Whatever you promised?

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 14:39

I am working also. I arrived at home at 1 a.m on monday morning, then I went back down town early the next morning in the court house. I have a motion to plead for a client. Let me check for the pictures and let me get back on earth a little before I write something about the prog.fest.

But don't you dare writing something negative about this festival`while you were not there ( I don't think so...).

C'est la vie

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 14:40

By the way, you can stay home drinking some scotch with your friends at home and listening to Genesis early record...

C'est la vie

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 14:55

Prog.Sylvie wrote:

By the way, you can stay home drinking some scotch with your friends at home and listening to Genesis early record...

I drink scotch with my dogs mostly.We were going to bring them to the Genesis concert too but decided against it because we didn`t think they would be allowed in without tickets.

Edited by Vibrationbaby - September 18 2007 at 14:58

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 17:50

Notice how Phil Collins brutally raped Genesis's sound.

Anyone care to disagree?

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 18:05

Vibrationbaby wrote:

If you would have read down the whole thread you would have saw that I mentioned that I got

FREE TICKETS
And, if 39,999 people jumped off a cliff I don`t think I would be following them.

How about if you had free tickets & were looking for a laugh ? Wink

But again, as some here have noted, why bother going to a show that you know (or should know) you're going to hate. TO make a classic rock comparison - it's like going to see AC/DC & complain about how Brian Johnson is the ruin of the group. Now I'm assuming that you are conscious enough to realize what was to be played at said show. As prog.Sylvie mentions, their tour has been well reviewed, so their setlist (which has been posted here for various shows) is not a secret, and the composition of the group is well known too. So unless you had reason to believe that Pete & Stevie were going to show up, I wonder if you have a masochistic bent. In which case, why not take it out on yourself by becoming a Maple Leaf fan LOL

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 18:11

Lucent wrote:

Notice how Phil Collins brutally raped Genesis's sound.

Anyone care to disagree?

So far, from the reviews & the ticket sales, I would guess that most of the attendees would disagree.
P.S. Ever get disgusted when people throw around terms like Nazi when describing things they diagree with. It really just belittles their arguement. Re : Genesis, and this is something that I stated many times in the interminable Peter Vs Phil polls & threads - did you know that Phil has been a member of the group for a long time, stretching back to their so-called classic "prog" period. And that Mike Rutherford & Tony Banks do not seem put out by their band member's performance as you are. Of course, your opinion is yours to hold. But I figure part of it is due to a grudge you hold because the group continued to evolve in a way that you disapprove. Again, your opinion , and yours to hold. But the members of a musical group have the freedom to play what & how they please. After all, they have to play the music. And any self-respecting artist does it for that reason only.

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Posted: September 18 2007 at 19:35

activetopics wrote:

Sell-outs. :(

Wrong. I wonder why people keep accusing them of being sell-outs. They DID NOT "sell-out". It was, as Phil Collins has said, just them growing up, listening to different things. Tony Banks is most likely the true controller of Genesis. If he didn't like what Phil wrote, he would have told him so, and Tony Banks would have decided what genre they would be in after Steve Hackett left. Steve's departure probably influenced them greatly in their change in sound, as I'm sure they felt that Steve's technique was one of the driving forces of their days with Peter Gabriel. (Anthony Phillips worked much in the same way I would suppose, not to mention he was the band's main songwriter. Anthony's departure meant they lost their creative drive, so they decided to try and take up the songwriting theirselves)

Anyway, I suppose my point is, they didn't sell out, they decided they were tired of progressive rock and wanted to do something different, and so they went with pop. And also: remember the planned Duke suite for the "Duke" album? Well, they scrapped it because they were worried that it would be compared to SUPPER'S READY. See, they wanted to get AWAY from The Musical Box, The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway, etc. etc. etc. So they changed their sound.

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Posted: September 19 2007 at 09:36

I don't get what all the cries against Genesis 'selling out' are about. Led Zeppelin's one-off charity gig that is randomly allotted (25 million people have allegedly applied, too!) still costs £125, no matter what seat you end up with. That is a lot less fair, IMHO. At least you stood a better chance of getting a ticket with Genesis, for charity or not. And is it any more expensive than the similar non-charity gigs of other reformed acts like, say, The Police, Cream, Van Halen or even warhorses like The Rolling Stones?

I saw one of the gigs broadcast live to a UK cinema and loved it. For me, 'Mama', 'Domino' and 'Home By The Sea', which are (shock! horror!) 80s tracks were amongst the highlights of the set. But then I didn't go expecting to hear 'Supper's Ready', or to pick faults in their performance or to compare Phil Collins to Peter Gabriel. My top 3 Genesis tracks, 'Ripples', 'The Cinema Show' and 'In The Cage' were all represented in some way, too, so I was delighted. There was a much better balance than their was in some of their 80s and 90s sets, IMHO. Can't wait for the DVD and live album...

Even the less-than-prog-friendly Rolling Stone magazine gave one of the band's US shows a very positive review.

Edited by salmacis - September 19 2007 at 09:56

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Posted: September 19 2007 at 10:05

Well, friday's concert was just great, I don't care what all those god-damn purists say. The concert started around 20h30 and ended at 23h00, without a break that is ! The guys still have it, still know how to play, and Collins knows how to take control of a crowd and please it. For me, highlights were Behind the Lines, Ripples, The drum duet leading into Los Endos, Firth of Fifth's instrumental section, Cinema Show's instrumental section, In the Cage, Mama, Domino and a very emotional rendition fro Collins on vocals during Hold on My heart (a crowd pleaser, huge positive reaction from the crowd).

To all you Collins bashers : just get out there and do better than him, if he is so sh*tty, or just shut the hell up once and for all, your narrow vision gets very, very tiresome.

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