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Points: 37575 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2010 at 17:53
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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:19
A sheep is not a creature of the air.  Beware of flying apples though.

So, on a tangent, if you like meatloaf, what do you like in your meatloaf?

So we've had MeatLoaf, Cooper, and Talking Heads brought up.  I personally don't mind the whole "if X is here Y should be" if defended further.  Of course, when it comes to these three artists, one I know quite well, the other two primarily by name.  I'd been advocating for TH inclusion for a while and am glad to see them here.

In the end, if you are going to open a thread about an addition, make your case when you do or don't open a thread.  Not directed at anyone in particular.  I see Lynx opened a thread and just buggered off so far.


Edited by Slartibartfast - September 20 2010 at 18:28
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Points: 7826 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:29
Yuck! I hate that stuff... I had to eat it the other night for dinner! Pinch

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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:32
Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Yuck! I hate that stuff... I had to eat it the other night for dinner! Pinch

OK, I'm not going to insult whoever made the stuff you had, but if you go non-traditional, it can be really good.  Your standard cafeteria style is guaranteed to be horrid.  Unless you add the sweat of a big fat guy... LOL


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Points: 7826 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2010 at 18:39
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

Originally posted by J-Man J-Man wrote:

Yuck! I hate that stuff... I had to eat it the other night for dinner! Pinch

OK, I'm not going to insult whoever made the stuff you had, but if you go non-traditional, it can be really good.  Your standard cafeteria style is guaranteed to be horrid.  Unless you add the sweat of a big fat guy... LOL


Standard cafeteria stuff = disgusting Thumbs Down

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In first place I must say I'm probably the biggest Meat Loaf fan here, so my opinion isn't tainted by prejudice and/or dislike, so being absolutely familiar with their music, will give my arguments against the inclusion with absolute confidence of impartiality:

1.- The Meat Loaf & Steinman collaboration must be credited as the pioneers of Wagnerian Rock, but not all Rock directly or indirectly related with Classical music is Prog.

2.- Meat Loaf & Steinman's music is much more elaborate and complex than most mainstream and even many Prog musicians, but in no way complexity is a synonym of Prog.

3.- Meat Loaf music is clearly related with Rock Opera, but again, Rock Opera or theatrics are not exclusive of Prog.

As a fact (well IMHO) Meatloaf is an excellent example of melodic Hard Rock with some Metal connections and an elaborate structure but in no way Prog, even when I would be glad to review the music of the band/artist, his inclusion would imply the addition of other artists as Yngwie Malmsteen and that would be misleading

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Points: 29630 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 20 2010 at 21:46
That's interesting to hear that you are a Meat Loaf fan.  You clearly know your Meat Loaf.  It should probably be put in the oven now. Tongue
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Points: 14573 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 21 2010 at 00:15
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

In first place I must say I'm probably the biggest Meat Loaf fan here, so my opinion isn't tainted by prejudice and/or dislike, so being absolutely familiar with their music, will give my arguments against the inclusion with absolute confidence of impartiality:

1.- The Meat Loaf & Steinman collaboration must be credited as the pioneers of Wagnerian Rock, but not all Rock directly or indirectly related with Classical music is Prog.

2.- Meat Loaf & Steinman's music is much more elaborate and complex than most mainstream and even many Prog musicians, but in no way complexity is a synonym of Prog.

3.- Meat Loaf music is clearly related with Rock Opera, but again, Rock Opera or theatrics are not exclusive of Prog.

As a fact IMHO Meatloaf is an excellent example of melodic Hard Rock with some Metal connections and an elaborate structure but in no way Prog, even when I would be glad to review the music of the band/artist, his inclusion would imply the addition of other artists as Yngwie Malmsteen and that would be misleading

Iván

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