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Timsan
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 04:48 |
cacho wrote:
Timsan wrote:
How can anyone consider beatles overrated?? strange!
the only progbands that isnt overrated must be Pink floyd and Genesis
ELP: good band but only for one and half lp
Yes: two good records dont cut it
King crimson: two good records also dont cut it
Rush: one or two good songs; i mean xanadu is a masterpiece, the only one i think!
Mars volta: a really nice band but some of their new stuff is very mediocre like the last half of bedlam in goliath, no fun I say!
sigur ros: is actually very good! but maybe should try something new, the have sounded thesame since their start!
Black sabbath is overrated if u consider zeppelin as their twinbrother, zeppelin i soo much better then sabbath!
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Please man!! Do you know the definition of 'overrated'??? You're just showing you don't! You're just talking about your preferences!
Overrated does not mean something you don't like . If it was that case, your post should be overrated
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Wow, great! I really like all the bands i mentioned but some might say yes is the best progband ever, and i think that is overrating them, theyre not the best progband by far but they are a good band! Someone said that mars volta is the new led zeppelin, isnt that overrating them???
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BAD ALCHEMY
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 05:52 |
In reply to a few comments of 'overrated' bands.
King Crimson;The most 'progressive' of bands in terms of musical progression,from 'In The Court',to 'Red'
Discipline & beyond, How can anyone call them overrated!!
Rush;Another amazing band that progressed! 2112,Farewell To kings,-Moving Pictures,Permanent Waves(Jacobs Ladder,Natural Science!!!)cut off point would be 'Grace', But overrated, no way!
Black Sabbath/Led Zeppelin; As much as i love both bands, I always come back to 'Sabbath',the 'Riffs!!
Zeppelin albums had better production, but they lacked the raw almost 'Punk' primal energy of Sabbath.
Just check out clips of the 1970 Paris gig on 'You Tube'...Both Seminal bands!!
Yes;Fragile,Close To The Edge,Relayer,...3 greats!! overrated??
Beatles;The most influential of all bands!!I can't understand why someone would call them overrated??
Yes,King Crimson, & Genesis all have Beatles(psychedelic) moments on their early albums, they pretty
much invented 'Prog'! okay it may have been 'The Mothers of Invention's'-Freak Out album but that's another
arguement.
Tool; overrated???..They get better with each album
As i mentioned in a previous post, i don't get ELP(I own 'Tarkus' & 'Brain Salad),Dream Theater,Mars Volta
& Spock's beard- all amazing musicians!! but overrated in my opinion, maybe i am missing something?
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WaywardSon
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Joined: April 23 2006
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 15:24 |
SilverEclipse wrote:
1. Kansas - everything they did had been done before and done better
2. Genesis - they can get quite tedious to listen to; they didn't have the chops Yes, KC, and ELP did, so their lengthy instrumental breaks can get boring b/c that WOW factor the other prog bands had was absent
3. Led Zeppelin - overstretched themselves quite a bit
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Canīt think of many bands before 74 which had a violin player and blended hard rock, country blues and prog together, being a huge Kansas fan I would love to discover these bands, so spit it out son
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Raff
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 15:29 |
You see, Greg, this thread is a misnomer... Most of the people are not listing actually 'overrated' bands (as if something like that could be measured), but just bands or artists they don't like. Personally, I would have closed this thread long ago, since I don't think that band-bashing is an asset to the site, but then, what do I know?
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 15:35 |
Timsan wrote:
cacho wrote:
Timsan wrote:
How can anyone consider beatles overrated?? strange!
the only progbands that isnt overrated must be Pink floyd and Genesis
ELP: good band but only for one and half lp
Yes: two good records dont cut it
King crimson: two good records also dont cut it
Rush: one or two good songs; i mean xanadu is a masterpiece, the only one i think!
Mars volta: a really nice band but some of their new stuff is very mediocre like the last half of bedlam in goliath, no fun I say!
sigur ros: is actually very good! but maybe should try something new, the have sounded thesame since their start!
Black sabbath is overrated if u consider zeppelin as their twinbrother, zeppelin i soo much better then sabbath!
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Please man!! Do you know the definition of 'overrated'??? You're just showing you don't! You're just talking about your preferences!
Overrated does not mean something you don't like . If it was that case, your post should be overrated
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Wow, great! I really like all the bands i mentioned but some might say yes is the best progband ever, and i think that is overrating them, theyre not the best progband by far but they are a good band! Someone said that mars volta is the new led zeppelin, isnt that overrating them??? |
No, saying The Mars Volta is the new Led Zeppelin, is not overrating them. If the one who says that, and thinks so, make it be so. Just because you think Led Zeppelin are better than The Mars Volta, doesn't mean someone saying otherwise, is wrong/overrated.
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Timsan
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 16:38 |
cacho wrote:
Timsan wrote:
cacho wrote:
Timsan wrote:
How can anyone consider beatles overrated?? strange!
the only progbands that isnt overrated must be Pink floyd and Genesis
ELP: good band but only for one and half lp
Yes: two good records dont cut it
King crimson: two good records also dont cut it
Rush: one or two good songs; i mean xanadu is a masterpiece, the only one i think!
Mars volta: a really nice band but some of their new stuff is very mediocre like the last half of bedlam in goliath, no fun I say!
sigur ros: is actually very good! but maybe should try something new, the have sounded thesame since their start!
Black sabbath is overrated if u consider zeppelin as their twinbrother, zeppelin i soo much better then sabbath!
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Please man!! Do you know the definition of 'overrated'??? You're just showing you don't! You're just talking about your preferences!
Overrated does not mean something you don't like . If it was that case, your post should be overrated
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Wow, great! I really like all the bands i mentioned but some might say yes is the best progband ever, and i think that is overrating them, theyre not the best progband by far but they are a good band! Someone said that mars volta is the new led zeppelin, isnt that overrating them??? |
No, saying The Mars Volta is the new Led Zeppelin, is not overrating them. If the one who says that, and thinks so, make it be so. Just because you think Led Zeppelin are better than The Mars Volta, doesn't mean someone saying otherwise, is wrong/overrated.
Ok, i think that zeppelin is maybe the best band ever and i think very many people share my feelings, millions of people i think. To say that mars volta is as good as zeppelin is really overrating them, and not really fare either cause the music mars volta produces is far more difficult and not as broad as zeppelin, maybe?
to be overrated isnt that when people say that u are better than u really are?
ahh everything is bullsh*te really, mars volta is really good!
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inrainbows
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 16:57 |
WaywardSon wrote:
SilverEclipse wrote:
1. Kansas - everything they did had been done before and done better
2. Genesis - they can get quite tedious to listen to; they didn't have the chops Yes, KC, and ELP did, so their lengthy instrumental breaks can get boring b/c that WOW factor the other prog bands had was absent
3. Led Zeppelin - overstretched themselves quite a bit
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Canīt think of many bands before 74 which had a violin player and blended hard rock, country blues and prog together, being a huge Kansas fan I would love to discover these bands, so spit it out son |
 + Genesis boring???
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AlbertMond
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 17:03 |
Raff wrote:
You see, Greg, this thread is a misnomer... Most of the people are not listing actually 'overrated' bands (as if something like that could be measured), but just bands or artists they don't like. Personally, I would have closed this thread long ago, since I don't think that band-bashing is an asset to the site, but then, what do I know? |
You can measure how overrated a band is. If a band does the same thing as a bunch of other bands did, but slightly later, that's a sign.
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mr.cub
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Joined: March 06 2009
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 17:52 |
Raff wrote:
You see, Greg, this thread is a misnomer... Most of the people are not listing actually 'overrated' bands (as if something like that could be measured), but just bands or artists they don't like. Personally, I would have closed this thread long ago, since I don't think that band-bashing is an asset to the site, but then, what do I know? |
I would have to agree; looking back at the previous pages somehow I missed the all out bashing of ELP...agree with all the comments in their defense. Personally I believe I listed Pink Floyd and Rush but I never criticized either and am actually like both bands. It does seem many people missed the point entirely as things seem to have gotten nasty of late.
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 18:40 |
Timsan wrote:
cacho wrote:
Timsan wrote:
cacho wrote:
Timsan wrote:
How can anyone consider beatles overrated?? strange!
the only progbands that isnt overrated must be Pink floyd and Genesis
ELP: good band but only for one and half lp
Yes: two good records dont cut it
King crimson: two good records also dont cut it
Rush: one or two good songs; i mean xanadu is a masterpiece, the only one i think!
Mars volta: a really nice band but some of their new stuff is very mediocre like the last half of bedlam in goliath, no fun I say!
sigur ros: is actually very good! but maybe should try something new, the have sounded thesame since their start!
Black sabbath is overrated if u consider zeppelin as their twinbrother, zeppelin i soo much better then sabbath!
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Please man!! Do you know the definition of 'overrated'??? You're just showing you don't! You're just talking about your preferences!
Overrated does not mean something you don't like . If it was that case, your post should be overrated
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Wow, great! I really like all the bands i mentioned but some might say yes is the best progband ever, and i think that is overrating them, theyre not the best progband by far but they are a good band! Someone said that mars volta is the new led zeppelin, isnt that overrating them??? |
No, saying The Mars Volta is the new Led Zeppelin, is not overrating them. If the one who says that, and thinks so, make it be so. Just because you think Led Zeppelin are better than The Mars Volta, doesn't mean someone saying otherwise, is wrong/overrated.
Ok, i think that zeppelin is maybe the best band ever and i think very many people share my feelings, millions of people i think. To say that mars volta is as good as zeppelin is really overrating them, and not really fare either cause the music mars volta produces is far more difficult and not as broad as zeppelin, maybe?
to be overrated isnt that when people say that u are better than u really are?
ahh everything is bullsh*te really, mars volta is really good!
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Yes, the bolded is true, but do you know what is "better" music?  I mean, the words 'better' and 'worse' in art in general, are quite useless, and meaningless, IMHO, in the context of some discussion saying which band is better than the other. Anyways, the first paragraph you wrote, is for another discussion. You are saying millions of persons love(no, not think they're the best band ever) Led Zeppelin, while The Mars Volta has less fans, and these fans say The Mars Volta are "the new Led", which you say this means overrated  It does not, are those million of people right on thinking Led is the best band ever, and The Mars Volta fans wrong on saying they're the new Led? Huh?
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Matthew T
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 19:13 |
mr.cub wrote:
Raff wrote:
You see, Greg, this thread is a misnomer... Most of the people are not listing actually 'overrated' bands (as if something like that could be measured), but just bands or artists they don't like. Personally, I would have closed this thread long ago, since I don't think that band-bashing is an asset to the site, but then, what do I know? |
I would have to agree; looking back at the previous pages somehow I missed the all out bashing of ELP...agree with all the comments in their defense. Personally I believe I listed Pink Floyd and Rush but I never criticized either and am actually like both bands. It does seem many people missed the point entirely as things seem to have gotten nasty of late. |  Here, Here........ I second Raffs opinion.
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micky
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Posted: April 12 2009 at 19:22 |
hahhaha.... god I love your avatar ... 
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