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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:23
Originally posted by Crimson Prince Crimson Prince wrote:

I may sound like a prude, but I think I have good reason: my dad died of a coke overdose in 1994 when I was 8 and my brother was 5  He left my mom with good insurance, but that don't replace having a father. I don't take drugs lightly. I won't ever touch the stuff. I hope not even to drink. The only drugs I take are aspirin and prescription stuff. Nothing else thanks.

  What really pisses me off about my dad's death is that I have two uncles that used drugs before my dad died and continue to use them, and they haven't died!! Sometimes that really throws me for a loop. They have done nothing with their lives while my dad had to die at the prime of his life at age 36 (plus he had a young family).

Why is the world so weird and unjust that way?

My dad is an ex coke addict and an ex alcoholic. Sorry to hear it man. My Relationship with him will never recover, but ive got it pretty good man. dont sweat it, be a better man.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:39
The keyboardist to our band is a cokehead, and does ecstacy amoung other drugs, but for some reason he seems to be quite in control over them. It's odd. And man, can he ever play good when he's drunk (he has anxiety disorder, so he gets drunk before every show we play just so he won't be nervous a screw up. ).

It's just strange.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 17 2005 at 22:49
Originally posted by Prog_Bassist Prog_Bassist wrote:

The keyboardist to our band is a cokehead, and does ecstacy amoung other drugs, but for some reason he seems to be quite in control over them. It's odd. And man, can he ever play good when he's drunk (he has anxiety disorder, so he gets drunk before every show we play just so he won't be nervous a screw up. ).

It's just strange.


Well despite what people say, it IS possible to use hard drugs in moderation without becoming addicted. Probably not for myself, but I have seen many people do it. Addiction is much more a psychological thing for most people than a physical thing, especially for drugs like cocaine and especially marijuana. I definitely have an addictive personality and have enough trouble with weed; I know if I ever used coke regularly I would probably very easily become addicted, because I have that predisposition. That's why I've never even tried coke or heroin. Psychological dependency is bad enough, I don't want to risk adding physical addiction to the equation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2005 at 00:40
I get my weed from trusted sources, usually home-grown.. I'm not too concerned.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 18 2005 at 08:58

Here's a MUCH better online version of the Dope Wars game - but you'll need a Java client to run it.

http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/iizuka/games/dopewars/

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

(You want the JRE - the 3rd download option)

 

Any difficulties, ask away - this version is definitely worth the hassle; I got my entire office shouting out about how much hash or heroin they'd scored, or the number of police they'd shot as the boss walked in...

How much money can you make?

I got up to just over £2,100,000 before I got arrested - with 6 days to go

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 00:52
Originally posted by Ben2112 Ben2112 wrote:

Originally posted by Prog_Bassist Prog_Bassist wrote:

The keyboardist to our band is a cokehead, and does ecstacy amoung other drugs, but for some reason he seems to be quite in control over them. It's odd. And man, can he ever play good when he's drunk (he has anxiety disorder, so he gets drunk before every show we play just so he won't be nervous a screw up. ).

It's just strange.


Well despite what people say, it IS possible to use hard drugs in moderation without becoming addicted. Probably not for myself, but I have seen many people do it. Addiction is much more a psychological thing for most people than a physical thing, especially for drugs like cocaine and especially marijuana. I definitely have an addictive personality and have enough trouble with weed; I know if I ever used coke regularly I would probably very easily become addicted, because I have that predisposition. That's why I've never even tried coke or heroin. Psychological dependency is bad enough, I don't want to risk adding physical addiction to the equation.


I do weed, and get heavily pissed every once in a while, but I'm defiently not addicted. My drummer could offer me some, and I could just not feel like it one day and not want any, but also be in the mood the other day.

My keyboardist mentioned that actually, that cocaine was just mental addiction, he said that actually you don't egt as high as a lot of people hype it, it's just a mental thing.

I don't want to risk it though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 02:29

Cocaine is physically addictive - nowhere near the level of heroin or nicotine, but more so than alcohol. The psychological addiction is very strong - especially if you like the artificial feeling of being everyone's best friend and a party animal.

The biz is full of drugs, addicts and wrecks - look at Shawn Ryder.

The biz also has a long roll-call of people who have lost their lives to drugs. Most of them are still alive

If you're in the biz for partying, then that's your trip.

If you're in it for MUSIC, then, if you must use drugs, USE drugs - never let them use YOU.

Before you take anything, ask yourself the simple question "why am I taking this?".

If it's because you just feel like it - a quick buzz to give a different angle to your MUSIC - then that's fine.

If it's because you want to get wasted, out of habit, because you feel pressurised, or some other trivial reason, and you're not really in the mood - then don't bother, although social considerations may be taken into account, as long as you don't feel that the only way to be socially accepted is to partake. You may feel a bit of an outsider for a relatively short period of time - but it's better than being an addict for the rest of your life.

Read Anthony Keidis' book "Scar Tissue". It's a bit of an eye-opener!

 

My $0.02 - it's up to you if you take it - no pressure!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 07:56
Originally posted by Prog_Bassist Prog_Bassist wrote:

The keyboardist to our band is a cokehead....he has an anxiety disorder


I suspect the two facts are not mutually exclusive; over use of Columbia's finest is a well known route to paranoia, anxiety attacks and personality disorders.

Cert had it right when he said if you want to use drugs, use drugs, so long as they do not use you; if you have non drug-using friends, and they get anxious about your welfare, listen to them - they can see better from the outside than you can from the inside.

It is also a good thing not to get blase about their use - just because a lot of people use them, does not make them any more legal...

It's also worth remembering this is an open public forum, not the privacy of your own home.

Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 09:13
Doing drugs is sooo out of fashion

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 09:49

I Can Listen to Psychedelic/Prog without the Stuff and I have Never Touch it Either.

Lots of my ROCK HEROES have!!!!!!!

Santana once said:

"Without Drugs Hendrix's music would have sounded Cocky".

Well something like that.

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 10:53
alcohol over prolonged use becomes mor ephysically addictive than even heroine....and cocaine is very mental but physiological also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 12:32
Originally posted by emdiar emdiar wrote:


, Em's babies...


If you don't want to smoke DDT, DIY!



whooo whoo whoo

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 12:36
Don't smoke, vaporise!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 13:02

I'd like to switch to vapour, but man, the satisfaction I get at the end of a hard working day from a sweet spliff, I just don't want to give it up. I never smoke weed at work, and it doesn't bother me at all. I only wish I could say the same for cigarettes. As soon as I get home I wrap up a draw. I never drink alcohol.

Cocain is insidious. To be avoided by those who don't wish to become selfish arses.

Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 19 2005 at 15:46
Ho man, i definetly turn on vape, after 11 years of intense smoking.
I gave up tobacco and only vapourise pure w...
That's so much better: the taste is incredible, and the high is smoother and more cerebral.
After that, a joint tastes horrible!
The issue is to find a good vapo.

And mine really works nice ( a french product):





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Originally posted by Hangedman Hangedman wrote:

Ive stopped smoking pot myself, but i live in canada. I just need to go down the street and several people have thier own plants. and then of course theres british columbia

Yes, there's British Columbia.. where I live..

It's ridiculous how many people smoke pot here.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 09 2005 at 07:38

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

dont you love me! Back in the day 70's I was a
heavy user of marijuana, hashish, quaalude,
mescaline, mushrooms, LSD, cocaine and opium.
we got our marijuana through hispanic groups and
growers in Mexico and Colombia, our hashish
through CIA affiates, mescaline from labs in
California and Texas, LSD from labs in California,
Germany and Switzerland, our coke through families
in Texas, California and Peru, our opium from the
Phillipines and Burma through and italian
organisation in San Diego, California. For
pharmaceutical it was a rep called the Dragon that
had closets full of boxes. I can say this because I
have had no affliation in over 25 years in this. I AM
STILL ALIVE, thanks to angels! My affiliation
was(1976-1980) that my best friend growing up his
family owned the biggest motorhome dealership in
the Southwest USA. His role was to administrate the
movement of marijuana from the farms in Southern
Mexico(Acapulco Gold) and boat shipments from
Columbia(Gold & Red) and Panama(Red) from the
farms that aircraft were landing shipments and
warehousing to from Mexico and ships were
unloading(both marijuana & cocaine) and
transporting to the farms from South America. This
leg of the operation was known as the Cowboy
Mafia. The Winnebago motorhomes would be
packed with the products concealed and families in
Chicago and Detroit would send down drivers to
transport and we would go up north to bring back the
emptied vehicles to be put on the lots for resale
explaning milage as being driven from the factory
and test vehicles. THE POINT During the time that
this was taking place America started the first WAR
ON DRUGS. Growers in Mexico we knew by name
and new the appearance of the products that they
produced. After the American governments started
spraying the marijuana fields with chemical weed
defoliants we saw the difference in appearance and
definately tasted it! The high was gone we were
getting high on canabinals and weed killer! I stopped
all mexican and only would smoke colombian weed.
After a year or two the government declared they had
stopped, IT DID NOT! You see Mexicos #1 cash crop
was marijuana! So the CIA affliates showed the
farmers how to grow sinsemilla(higher grade
marijuana). Still poisoning the masses but Mexico
could make the higher dollar for their product. This
practice is still alive and VERY ACTIVE in America!
the next step was CRACK! Pheasant farmers in
Columbia growing outside the PROTECTED areas
were exposed. The US continues to hire Air Force
and Marine pilots out of Arizona to spray weed killer
in Colombia in the NON AMERICAN approved (poor
people) areas. The plants are then processed into
paste and dried. Called the GRINGOS POISON in
Columbia the CIA supplies routes back to the poor
black neighborhoods in America for consumption.
And you wonder why Germany was 2nd in murders
in the world with almost 400 in 2002, england 3rd
with over 200 and the USA leading the world with
over 15, 000 murders and around 700 in Los
Angeles alone.    JESUS forgive me! but who will
forgive the bureaucrats when they are --------------
wait is that a KNOCK! a message from the
Veterans of Chemical Warfare! for more information
see USA research concerning MK-Ultra conducted in
clinics in Montreal, Canada in the 1970's.

I had the opportunity to work in Peru, training the army to combat the Shining Path back in the late eighties. Part of the training included pacification which involved dealing with the drug problem there. At one point we had quite a few representatives of the various military branches, (regular army, Rangers, Marines, air force, etc, depending on the mission requirement). I don't recall seeing any CIA types. Point is, we were there to help, not put down the local population. Therefore your comments are disturbing and not believable.

I'm not sermonizing as I did my fair share of drugs in high school. However, after seeing the devastation that drug cultivation has engendered in places like Peru and Colombia, I regret having done it. It's a misfortune that we should joke about it, seeing how the third world has suffered because of our indulgences.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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