DB:

You're the only other person I know who knows about AT!  I bought an ounce of it back in 1974, and it was without question the most powerful "regular" (i.e., non-sens) pot I ever smoked!

Peace.

Prog_Bassist wrote: I don't see myself stopping anytime soon just cuz of a little bit of bug killer. It puts hair on your chest.

Yeah, depending on my mood sometimes I just ignore the weed and go right to the pesticides.

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If you don't want to smoke DDT, DIY!

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...or raid Emdiar's garden....

Um, guard tigers are illegal in the Netherlands, right Em?

. I've had some unwanted guests in the past. Bloody neighbour's kids!!. Stollen weed, as forbidden fruit, is the sweetest I fear. A mate of mine had his whole crop lifted, but complained to the police, who promptly arrested the thieves and made them return the plants.

Ah, Holland. Truly the land of the free! .

I may sound like a prude, but I think I have good reason: my dad died of a coke overdose in 1994 when I was 8 and my brother was 5  He left my mom with good insurance, but that don't replace having a father. I don't take drugs lightly. I won't ever touch the stuff. I hope not even to drink. The only drugs I take are aspirin and prescription stuff. Nothing else thanks.

  What really pisses me off about my dad's death is that I have two uncles that used drugs before my dad died and continue to use them, and they haven't died!! Sometimes that really throws me for a loop. They have done nothing with their lives while my dad had to die at the prime of his life at age 36 (plus he had a young family).

Why is the world so weird and unjust that way?

Crimson Prince wrote: I may sound like a prude, but I think I have good reason: my dad died of a coke overdose in 1994 when I was 8 and my brother was 5  He left my mom with good insurance, but that don't replace having a father. I don't take drugs lightly. I won't ever touch the stuff. I hope not even to drink. The only drugs I take are aspirin and prescription stuff. Nothing else thanks.   What really pisses me off about my dad's death is that I have two uncles that used drugs before my dad died and continue to use them, and they haven't died!! Sometimes that really throws me for a loop. They have done nothing with their lives while my dad had to die at the prime of his life at age 36 (plus he had a young family). Why is the world so weird and unjust that way?

My dad is an ex coke addict and an ex alcoholic. Sorry to hear it man. My Relationship with him will never recover, but ive got it pretty good man. dont sweat it, be a better man.

Here's a MUCH better online version of the Dope Wars game - but you'll need a Java client to run it.

http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/iizuka/games/dopewars/ - http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/iizuka/games/dopewars/

http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp - http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp

(You want the JRE - the 3rd download option)

Any difficulties, ask away - this version is definitely worth the hassle; I got my entire office shouting out about how much hash or heroin they'd scored, or the number of police they'd shot as the boss walked in...

How much money can you make?

I got up to just over £2,100,000 before I got arrested - with 6 days to go

Cocaine is physically addictive - nowhere near the level of heroin or nicotine, but more so than alcohol. The psychological addiction is very strong - especially if you like the artificial feeling of being everyone's best friend and a party animal.

The biz is full of drugs, addicts and wrecks - look at Shawn Ryder.

The biz also has a long roll-call of people who have lost their lives to drugs. Most of them are still alive

If you're in the biz for partying, then that's your trip.

If you're in it for MUSIC, then, if you must use drugs, USE drugs - never let them use YOU.

Before you take anything, ask yourself the simple question "why am I taking this?".

If it's because you just feel like it - a quick buzz to give a different angle to your MUSIC - then that's fine.

If it's because you want to get wasted, out of habit, because you feel pressurised, or some other trivial reason, and you're not really in the mood - then don't bother, although social considerations may be taken into account, as long as you don't feel that the only way to be socially accepted is to partake. You may feel a bit of an outsider for a relatively short period of time - but it's better than being an addict for the rest of your life.

Read Anthony Keidis' book "Scar Tissue". It's a bit of an eye-opener!

My $0.02 - it's up to you if you take it - no pressure!

I Can Listen to Psychedelic/Prog without the Stuff and I have Never Touch it Either.

Lots of my ROCK HEROES have!!!!!!!

Santana once said:

"Without Drugs Hendrix's music would have sounded Cocky".

Well something like that.

I'd like to switch to vapour, but man, the satisfaction I get at the end of a hard working day from a sweet spliff, I just don't want to give it up. I never smoke weed at work, and it doesn't bother me at all. I only wish I could say the same for cigarettes. As soon as I get home I wrap up a draw. I never drink alcohol.

Cocain is insidious. To be avoided by those who don't wish to become selfish arses.

Hangedman wrote: Ive stopped smoking pot myself, but i live in canada. I just need to go down the street and several people have thier own plants. and then of course theres british columbia

Yes, there's British Columbia.. where I live..

It's ridiculous how many people smoke pot here.

DallasBryan wrote: dont you love me! Back in the day 70's I was a heavy user of marijuana, hashish, quaalude, mescaline, mushrooms, LSD, cocaine and opium. we got our marijuana through hispanic groups and growers in Mexico and Colombia, our hashish through CIA affiates, mescaline from labs in California and Texas, LSD from labs in California, Germany and Switzerland, our coke through families in Texas, California and Peru, our opium from the Phillipines and Burma through and italian organisation in San Diego, California. For pharmaceutical it was a rep called the Dragon that had closets full of boxes. I can say this because I have had no affliation in over 25 years in this. I AM STILL ALIVE, thanks to angels! My affiliation was(1976-1980) that my best friend growing up his family owned the biggest motorhome dealership in the Southwest USA. His role was to administrate the movement of marijuana from the farms in Southern Mexico(Acapulco Gold) and boat shipments from Columbia(Gold & Red) and Panama(Red) from the farms that aircraft were landing shipments and warehousing to from Mexico and ships were unloading(both marijuana & cocaine) and transporting to the farms from South America. This leg of the operation was known as the Cowboy Mafia. The Winnebago motorhomes would be packed with the products concealed and families in Chicago and Detroit would send down drivers to transport and we would go up north to bring back the emptied vehicles to be put on the lots for resale explaning milage as being driven from the factory and test vehicles. THE POINT During the time that this was taking place America started the first WAR ON DRUGS. Growers in Mexico we knew by name and new the appearance of the products that they produced. After the American governments started spraying the marijuana fields with chemical weed defoliants we saw the difference in appearance and definately tasted it! The high was gone we were getting high on canabinals and weed killer! I stopped all mexican and only would smoke colombian weed. After a year or two the government declared they had stopped, IT DID NOT! You see Mexicos #1 cash crop was marijuana! So the CIA affliates showed the farmers how to grow sinsemilla(higher grade marijuana). Still poisoning the masses but Mexico could make the higher dollar for their product. This practice is still alive and VERY ACTIVE in America! the next step was CRACK! Pheasant farmers in Columbia growing outside the PROTECTED areas were exposed. The US continues to hire Air Force and Marine pilots out of Arizona to spray weed killer in Colombia in the NON AMERICAN approved (poor people) areas. The plants are then processed into paste and dried. Called the GRINGOS POISON in Columbia the CIA supplies routes back to the poor black neighborhoods in America for consumption. And you wonder why Germany was 2nd in murders in the world with almost 400 in 2002, england 3rd with over 200 and the USA leading the world with over 15, 000 murders and around 700 in Los Angeles alone.    JESUS forgive me! but who will forgive the bureaucrats when they are -------------- wait is that a KNOCK! a message from the Veterans of Chemical Warfare! for more information see USA research concerning MK-Ultra conducted in clinics in Montreal, Canada in the 1970's.

I had the opportunity to work in Peru, training the army to combat the Shining Path back in the late eighties. Part of the training included pacification which involved dealing with the drug problem there. At one point we had quite a few representatives of the various military branches, (regular army, Rangers, Marines, air force, etc, depending on the mission requirement). I don't recall seeing any CIA types. Point is, we were there to help, not put down the local population. Therefore your comments are disturbing and not believable.

I'm not sermonizing as I did my fair share of drugs in high school. However, after seeing the devastation that drug cultivation has engendered in places like Peru and Colombia, I regret having done it. It's a misfortune that we should joke about it, seeing how the third world has suffered because of our indulgences.