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ANDREW 
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 Posted: February 09 2006 at 08:30 |
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FLAMING LIPS doesn't play prog rock, i don't agree for their inclusion here.
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oracus
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 08:49 |
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Ofcourse not.
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Phil
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 09:21 |
 kebjourman wrote:
god i love the flaming lips!!!!!!!!!!!!
dunno if theyre prog though |
Well
said! And stonebeard you're clearly knowledgeable about the F'Lips (and
therefore a fan I assume..) "Yoshimi" is a great album with some
proggish moments, as (IMHO) is "The Soft Bullettin". I look forward to
the new release, whatever it may bring!
Ivan I know you have a point when you say (I paraphrase) that you
shouldn't compare bands and say "because A is on so should B be.." but
to my ears there are so many more bizzare choices for "prog" bands that
have appeared on PA, than the Flaming Lips - I won't list them here!!
It does make for some pretty bizzare choices of what is - and is not -
included on PA.
So I suppose I'm saying I agree that the Flaming Lips aren't really
"prog" (though they're a damn fine band), but then again if I was to
compare them to some of the bands listed on this site, then hey, yes
they flaming well should be too!!! 
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stonebeard
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 22:02 |
Phil wrote:
kebjourman wrote:
god i love the flaming lips!!!!!!!!!!!!
dunno if theyre prog though
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Well
said! And stonebeard you're clearly knowledgeable about the F'Lips (and therefore a fan I assume..) "Yoshimi" is a great album with some proggish moments, as (IMHO) is "The Soft Bullettin". I look forward to the new release, whatever it may bring!
Ivan I know you have a point when you say (I paraphrase) that you shouldn't compare bands and say "because A is on so should B be.." but to my ears there are so many more bizzare choices for "prog" bands that have appeared on PA, than the Flaming Lips - I won't list them here!! It does make for some pretty bizzare choices of what is - and is not - included on PA.
So I suppose I'm saying I agree that the Flaming Lips aren't really "prog" (though they're a damn fine band), but then again if I was to compare them to some of the bands listed on this site, then hey, yes they flaming well should be too!!!
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Yeah...
Listening to The Soft Bulletin as I type.
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 22:11 |
Zaireeka is probably one of the most creative and innovative albums to ever be released... prog in my book.
Edited by Cygnus X-2
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stonebeard
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 22:27 |
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Zaireeka is probably one of the most creative and innovative albums to ever be released... prog in my book.
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I can hardly remember the music. I've only played it once, when I actually had 4 seperate sources that played cds. 
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Cygnus X-2
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Posted: February 09 2006 at 22:41 |
stonebeard wrote:
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Zaireeka is probably one of the most creative and innovative albums to ever be released... prog in my book.
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I can hardly remember the music. I've only played it once, when I actually had 4 seperate sources that played cds.
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I've only listened to it twice. My friend and I have only had the patience to find 4 sources to play cds twice.
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GoldenSpiral
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Posted: February 10 2006 at 00:38 |
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I love them, but I dont think they are prog rock. Just because they aren't on this site doesnt mean they aren't amazing music!
for cheese's sakes people, it's ok to like music that isnt prog!
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bhikkhu
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Posted: May 23 2006 at 23:20 |
Peace Frog wrote:
If Radiohead is on PA, why couldn't the Flaming Lips be? |
Now, I understand that a comparison with Radiohead might be too broad, but Mercury Rev is listed. They are very similar, and even share a band member.
I found this thread because I had looked for them here. I can understand why they wouldn't be, but I can also see a case for inclusion. When I first heard "The Soft Bulletin," my thought was that the Flaming Lips had gone prog.
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Meddler
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 00:47 |
Prog-related? I'm too lazy to see if it's been mentioned already. 
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 01:59 |
"Vox Populi Vox Dei" isn't 26 votes for NO against only 8 yes enough to simply forget about them?
Iván
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Trickster F.
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Posted: May 24 2006 at 15:28 |
Actually you can download Zaireeka as one disc with all four mixed together. But I didn't tell you that! 
-- Ivan
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Goldenavatar
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 21:22 |
Oh my word, I couldn't click the "no" option fast enough! I had to steady myself for fear that I might inadvertantly click "yes". Let me emphatically say, NO!!!!!
By the way, this "prog-related" talk has yet to make sense to me. Are we playing 6 degrees of Kevin Bacon or something? If the band recorded with someone who recorded with someone who recorded with someone who recorded with someone who recorded with Fripp does that make the prog related?
Also by the way, kudos to those of you who are able to say the like the Flaming Lips and still agree they are not prog.
My humble opinion as usual.
Edited by Goldenavatar - May 27 2006 at 21:25
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bamba
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 21:37 |
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I think they are more an alternative rock band than a prog rock band but some of their stuff its just good not amazing.
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The Wizard
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 21:47 |
No. As much as I love the Flaming Lips there just not prog rock. They have proggy moments, but not enough to deserve it here. They're probably my favorite modern band, don't get me wrong, but there more psychedelic pop than anything else.
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GPFR
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 21:51 |
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I love the Lips latest album, At war with the mystics, and it is prog.
But anything before that is clearly not. (Though I love it too.)
As for the whole Radiohead issue, I think they are very progressive
(with the exception of there first two albums) I agree with Ivans
arguements.
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The Wizard
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Posted: May 27 2006 at 21:55 |
GPFR wrote:
I love the Lips latest album, At war with the mystics, and it is prog. But anything before that is clearly not. (Though I love it too.)
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Mystics is very Pink Floydish and there most psychedelic, but still not really prog to my ears.
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Rashikal
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Posted: May 28 2006 at 16:33 |
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theyre also influenced by Os Mutantes, who are listed here
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listen to Hella
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CVoss
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Posted: June 05 2006 at 12:55 |
The Flaming Lips do seem borderline, just like Radiohead, but what keeps them from being worthy from being on the site is not really the sense of marking time; it's more about pop sensibility compared to most bands on here. Again, it is a very tough call, since fusion and other genres are included within this site. However, the Flaming Lips fit more into standard indie rock and psychedelic (not of the Floyd realm, either) than they do prog, in my opinion. However, I can definitely see both sides of the deal.
And yes, I really like the Flaming Lips myself...they only get better every album, it seems!
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