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Frenetic Zetetic ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 09 2017 Location: Now Status: Offline Points: 9233 |
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I love King Crimson, but Islands puts me right to sleep. My bandmates and I joke that ITWoP is so close to ITCoTKC in terms of sound, it's hilarious.
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Awesoreno ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 07 2019 Location: Culver City, CA Status: Offline Points: 3079 |
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I think I understand what "sprog prog" means now in context, but where does it come from? What is the etymology?
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6737 |
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I don’t think anyone really knows, even though it’s a widely used term throughout the English speaking world. There are a couple of possible etymologies, both of which have Old Norse origin, but neither are confirmed. A sprag (or variants) has been used over time for the young of various species of fish (flounder, cod and salmon being just three); and sprack means lively and full of energy. There is probably a common etymology for sprag and sprack, now I think about it - but to be honest, I’ve never really through about it. I just grew up knowing what a sprog was, because it was common parlance. 🤷🏻♂️ |
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Rednight ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 18 2014 Location: Mar Vista, CA Status: Offline Points: 4812 |
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Crimso' again!
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"It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno
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Heart of the Matter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 01 2020 Location: Argentina Status: Offline Points: 3556 |
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Each track on TFK's record sounded fine to me, but also it didn't trigger any emotion, or take me to any ride, so, after a couple of listens, I don't think I'm going to listen to it again.
KC's Islands, on the contrary, even not being a perfect album, is a hell of a ride to me, and I feel many listens waiting there. |
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richardh ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: February 18 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 29402 |
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Upbeat Tango Monday ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 10 2015 Location: Buenos Aires Status: Offline Points: 1189 |
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Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement.
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King of Loss ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: April 21 2005 Location: Boston, MA Status: Offline Points: 16880 |
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Islands is one of my favorite King Crimson album, while that is not my favorite Flower Kings album. Also, King Crimson is strictly preferred for me over the Flower Kings.
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Steve Wyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2017 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 2831 |
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Wait just a minute here...no mention of Mike Oldfield's Islands???
"The Wind Chimes" is one of the greatest things he's ever done!!!
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2934 |
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^ It should have been included in the poll, but then I really doubt it would have get many votes, as the rating on PA is pretty low.
I'm a big Mike Oldfield fan, but Islands is among my least favorite albums from him. "Amarok" is many times better (melody- and production-wise) than "The Wind Chimes" and side two of the album is pretty average. Both King Crimson's and TFK's Islands aren't the best albums from their respective bands, but they are far superior to Mike Oldfield's Islands in my opinion.
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Steve Wyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 30 2017 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 2831 |
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Amarok is my very favorite Mike Oldfield album. Islands would make my Oldfield Top Ten list, but I understand why many fans don't like it. Having both "Islands" and "When the Night's On Fire" based on the same melody is a little too much. The original USA release re-sequenced the Side Two songs, closing with "Islands" and excluding "When the Night's On Fire". I think I prefer this version.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18912 |
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What about Mike Oldfield's islands album?
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projeKct ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Errors & Omissions Team Joined: November 03 2013 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 2934 |
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^ What about the previous posts?
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18912 |
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I just typed that without reading the previous ones. Do I have to go to prog jail now or just the prog dog house?
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Hrychu ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 03 2013 Location: poland? Status: Offline Points: 5682 |
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I like both equally. Islands is KC's weakest Sinfield era album though.
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 18912 |
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Unless you count earthbound I would agree.
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Musical Garden Status: Offline Points: 9872 |
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'Islands' by King Crimson
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
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A Crimson Mellotron ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 10 2020 Location: Sofia, Bulgaria Status: Offline Points: 5677 |
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This one's still alive!
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