Islands vs. Islands
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Topic: Islands vs. Islands
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Subject: Islands vs. Islands
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:11
 
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:16
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King Crimson for me although this isn’t a fair competition. I’ve never heard anything from The Flower Kings that stuck with me. I imagine a lot of folks feeling the exact opposite...it’s music after all. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:16
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King Crimson gets the vote here. The new TFK didn't do much for me, rather tired of their sound.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:17
| Thought of that King Crimson and Island - Pictures when I saw this. I love King Crimson’s Islands (one of my very favourite KC albums), but I haven’t heard that The Flower Kings album. Will vote after I get the chance to check it out (very late here), but I’ll be very surprised if I don’t end up voting for KC. |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:19
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Island’s Pictures was the first album I thought of. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:20
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KC ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:24
First I thought of too actually. Much as I like KC’s Islands, Island’s Pictures would get my vote if they were in this poll. I will check out this TFK, though I never really got into the band. |
Guldbamsen wrote:Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:30
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Oh, this is not what I thought it was going to be, which makes it incredibly easy. Had this been, as I expected, Krimson’s Islands vs Island’s Pictures, I might have had to put more thought into who I wished to vote for. But this? This? No contest.... 😄 ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:49
| So I managed to listen to 25 minutes of that TFk, with some skipping through, but still a good chunk and that's all I saw on YouTube. I like it more than I was expecting to, but still I feel very comfortable voting for KC. Listening to all 93 minutes of that TFk I do think would be a chore. -- one issue I have had with TFK is that they seemed not to be believers in the less is more, show some restraint, and avoid excessive noodling camp. An editor could help. KC's Islands seems far more refined. |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 02:53
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This is my least-favorite KC record next to ITWoP, and I haven't heard the other. NO VOTE!!! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 06:44
| I love The Flower Kings, but they are no match for King Crimson, specially this album. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 07:15
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This is tantamount to Dad Prog v Sprog Prog. Not a Crimson album I much care for but even the death throes of a dinosaur are preferable to cataloguing yet another shiny new PA fossil. ------------- 
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Posted By: dougmcauliffe
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 07:26
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Oh hell yeah! I get to be the contrarian this time! Flower Kings for me! I wrote an at length review of TFK islands last year. To sum it up, i've never been a fan of the band, a lot times due to the daunting size and length of their catalog and compositions and the sound just not being for me. Like another user put it, I always grouped them in with "dad-prog" or "modern prog for old people who don't actually like modern prog." However, last year that record totally changed my mind and perception on the band, and it actually wound up being my album of the year. Even over the likes of Wobbler, Haken and Motorpsycho, which are all bands that I generally like a lot more than TFK. I love all those songs, I like that they're shorter and more easily digestible, how melodic they are, and at the end of the day, the songs just makes me happy. When it came out, it was in a time that I really could've used something just like that and it really resonated and hit the spot. Now, I like King Crimsons islands, I don't think its perfect but there's a lot of brilliant creative ideas and songs across that record. Boz is a great vocalist too, underrated even. However, I gotta vote for the album that I actually feel like I have a deeper connection with, and today that is Flower Kings.
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Posted By: yogev
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 07:30
I can not say that it's a bad album, but they do started to recreate their sound. so I vote to KC too. |
Posted By: progaardvark
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 14:47
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This is one where I go against the trend. TFK on this one. KC's Islands is decent enough, but the weakest album in their discography. ------------- ---------- i'm shopping for a new oil-cured sinus bag that's a happy bag of lettuce this car smells like cartilage nothing beats a good video about fractions |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 14:52
| It's in my top three KC albums, along with Lizard and Larks. Weak or not, bad or good (which often comes down to a sort of perceived consensus when it comes to claims and sometimes is just expressed as an individual opinion of merit) doesn't interest me as long as I like it. Unlike many, I haven't really got into Discipline or post-Discipline ones. |
Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 16:11
| TFK by a slight margin. Both are good (but only good) albums. But TFK has lots of ideas for this one (too many, in fact, but whatever). KC's Islands feels vert short! |
Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 16:14
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Los Flower Kings rule....... F'ing aye dude!! -------------   
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 16:17
Most albums would feel short when comparing to the experience of a TFK album.  Like with me, brevity and concision it might be said is not its greatest strength.
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Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 16:18
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KC....always. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 26 2021 at 22:54
I love King Crimson, but Islands puts me right to sleep. My bandmates and I joke that ITWoP is so close to ITCoTKC in terms of sound, it's hilarious. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Awesoreno
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 02:09
I think I understand what "sprog prog" means now in context, but where does it come from? What is the etymology?
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Posted By: nick_h_nz
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 02:24
I don’t think anyone really knows, even though it’s a widely used term throughout the English speaking world. There are a couple of possible etymologies, both of which have Old Norse origin, but neither are confirmed. A sprag (or variants) has been used over time for the young of various species of fish (flounder, cod and salmon being just three); and sprack means lively and full of energy. There is probably a common etymology for sprag and sprack, now I think about it - but to be honest, I’ve never really through about it. I just grew up knowing what a sprog was, because it was common parlance. 🤷🏻♂️ ------------- https://tinyurl.com/nickhnz-tpa" rel="nofollow - Reviewer for The Progressive Aspect |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 08:28
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Crimso' again! ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: Heart of the Matter
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 08:29
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Each track on TFK's record sounded fine to me, but also it didn't trigger any emotion, or take me to any ride, so, after a couple of listens, I don't think I'm going to listen to it again. KC's Islands, on the contrary, even not being a perfect album, is a hell of a ride to me, and I feel many listens waiting there. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 27 2021 at 13:56
| FK |
Posted By: Upbeat Tango Monday
Date Posted: May 29 2021 at 08:54
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KC ------------- Two random guys agreed to shake hands. Just Because. They felt like it, you know. It was an agreement of sorts...a random agreement. |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: May 30 2021 at 17:47
| Islands is one of my favorite King Crimson album, while that is not my favorite Flower Kings album. Also, King Crimson is strictly preferred for me over the Flower Kings. |
Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 15:59
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Wait just a minute here...no mention of Mike Oldfield's Islands??? "The Wind Chimes" is one of the greatest things he's ever done!!!
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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 17:13
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^ It should have been included in the poll, but then I really doubt it would have get many votes, as the http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4903" rel="nofollow - rating on PA is pretty low. I'm a big Mike Oldfield fan, but Islands is among my least favorite albums from him. "Amarok" is many times better (melody- and production-wise) than "The Wind Chimes" and side two of the album is pretty average. Both King Crimson's and TFK's Islands aren't the best albums from their respective bands, but they are far superior to Mike Oldfield's Islands in my opinion.
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Posted By: Steve Wyzard
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 17:30
Amarok is my very favorite Mike Oldfield album. Islands would make my Oldfield Top Ten list, but I understand why many fans don't like it. Having both "Islands" and "When the Night's On Fire" based on the same melody is a little too much. The original USA release re-sequenced the Side Two songs, closing with "Islands" and excluding "When the Night's On Fire". I think I prefer this version.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 19:08
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What about Mike Oldfield's islands album?
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Posted By: projeKct
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 19:17
^ What about the previous posts? 
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 19:34
I just typed that without reading the previous ones. Do I have to go to prog jail now or just the prog dog house?
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Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 19:40
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I like both equally. Islands is KC's weakest Sinfield era album though. ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: June 03 2021 at 21:08
Unless you count earthbound I would agree.
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Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 14:15
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'Islands' by King Crimson ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: A Crimson Mellotron
Date Posted: July 21 2022 at 14:54
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This one's still alive! |