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Originally posted by Mcsplosion Mcsplosion wrote:

This is seriously Getting off-track

Anyways, I still think out of any guns n' roses song I've listened to, November rain is definitely the proggiest. It's musically a fairly standard power ballad, but backed with an orchestra, and with a wildly different ending solo section. There's not any odd time signatures or full-on instrumental sections, but it's still a fairly lengthy song with a definite tonal shift as it closes. On the further subject of GnR and prog, I'd say the albums they've made aren't very progressive for the most part, but some of their live shows definitely try to combine different songs into more cohesive and dynamic pieces.

Really?? It was never on track because GnR has zero prog in their music. It's crazy to think that but if you wanna force your ears and mind into thinking there is some prog in their music.....Umm yea go ahead.

A long song with a different tone to the ending is not prog.....One song does not make them progy.

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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by Mcsplosion Mcsplosion wrote:

This is seriously Getting off-track

Anyways, I still think out of any guns n' roses song I've listened to, November rain is definitely the proggiest. It's musically a fairly standard power ballad, but backed with an orchestra, and with a wildly different ending solo section. There's not any odd time signatures or full-on instrumental sections, but it's still a fairly lengthy song with a definite tonal shift as it closes. On the further subject of GnR and prog, I'd say the albums they've made aren't very progressive for the most part, but some of their live shows definitely try to combine different songs into more cohesive and dynamic pieces.

Really?? It was never on track because GnR has zero prog in their music. It's crazy to think that but if you wanna force your ears and mind into thinking there is some prog in their music.....Umm yea go ahead.

A long song with a different tone to the ending is not prog.....One song does not make them progy.

What is this website turning into??? Cry LOL

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I'd say Estranged, November Rain, Civil War and maybe Coma. Nothing else.
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Okay, just because you can't accept guns n roses has prog elements in some of their songs doesn't mean that they don't.
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O.K. Then there’s Prog elements in Kajagoogoo. I can hear them

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None. Their music is meat 'n potatoes rock 'n roll, like AC/DC, Status Quo, Kiss.    

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Originally posted by Mcsplosion Mcsplosion wrote:

Okay, just because you can't accept guns n roses has prog elements in some of their songs doesn't mean that they don't.

Alternatively, just because you can think that guns n roses has prog elements in some of their songs doesn't mean that they do. Beer


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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:


Really?? It was never on track because GnR has zero prog in their music. It's crazy to think that but if you wanna force your ears and mind into thinking there is some prog in their music.....Umm yea go ahead.

A long song with a different tone to the ending is not prog.....One song does not make them progy.

What is this website turning into??? Cry LOL
 

Thumbs up. Fully agree. I'm new here,since yesterday, so maybe this thread is just a one off, but am I on a "prog" site where some members don't actually know what prog is? (Being serious not flippant).

Guns n Roses is a grunge/sleaze rock n roll band, in metal clubs/circles we don't play them or listen to them. How can anyone hear prog in Guns n Roses. A rock ballad is a rock ballad, that's it. If people are hearing prog in G n R then they are definitely hearing it in lots of other places where it doesn't exist.

Music is not subjective in the same way as visual art in which everyone sees what their eyes tell their brain that they are seeing. What a band plays is an objective measurable definable fact, notes, chords, keys, tempos.  The Smiths did not play heavy metal, The Kinks did not play classical music, Black Sabbath did not play reggae. Guns n Roses did (do?) not play prog. 
    


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Originally posted by LAM-SGC LAM-SGC wrote:

None. Their music is meat 'n potatoes rock 'n roll, like AC/DC, Status Quo, Kiss.    
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Comparing Guns N' Roses to AC/DC or Kiss is like comparing 10cc to Ramones LOL

Okay, that was an exaggeration, but still. Aerosmith or Humble Pie are more comparable to those bands, not GNR.

There's nothing in AC/DC discography comparable to November Rain, Coma, 14 Years, Breakdown, Civil War, Rocket Queen, So Fine, etc.

When did AC/DC have string sections, walls of guitar, synth programming (solos by Buckethead, etc.)? They always played the same riff and time signature in every damn song, they were good at it, but they were never versatile while GNR were. And Kiss maybe had slightly more versatility in a few songs, but nowhere near GNR.

GNR are more similar to Led Zeppelin, in the sense they both have a lot of "meat n' potatoes rock n' roll", but also can do far more than that. 
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I never compared GnR to those bands, I said they all played meat n potatoes R n R and they do. The styles and instrumentation are the details that make every band different and those are a given.  The fact remains, there isn't an ounce of prog rock in G n R's music.  
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Originally posted by Mcsplosion Mcsplosion wrote:

Okay, just because you can't accept guns n roses has prog elements in some of their songs doesn't mean that they don't.
 

What are "prog elements"?   They don't play prog music.

  
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Live and Let Die would be the proggiest, and it was not even theirs...

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