totally agree :)

I can only listen to their debut these days, I don't care for anything else from them. 

I can only echo the others:  despite some extended tracks on Use Your Illusion, they were simply long tracks still in the late 80s-early 90s hard rock style - not progressive rock.

And to be honest, I'd rather listen to Appetite for Destruction anyways.

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 10 2018 at 04:24

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None. They are the anithesis of anything progressive IMO, and Axl Rose is one of the worst singers I have ever heard in rock music. One image that has haunted me mos of my adult life is that of Axl Rose strutting on stage like a smacked up peacock, in some grotesque yellow outfit and what apeared to be across between knee high boots and leg warmers, at some charity/remembrance event (Freddie Mercury??) I think Elton John was involved. I saw them at a festival back in the Appetite days, and oh boy were they sh*t! In between falling over and asking the crowd for fights, I would say they are the worst band I ever saw live, after Megadeth and Whitesnake in their 'poodle perm' phase. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 10 2018 at 21:21

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^ Dont diss Mustaine and his gang.......plz.....

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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 11 2018 at 02:00

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Tom Ozric wrote: ^ Dont diss Mustaine and his gang.......plz..... I've heard great things about Megadeth live. When I saw them they had just recently released the album with 'Into the lungs of hell' on it (?) They were just shoddy, mistake ridden and sounded awful. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 11 2018 at 02:51

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SteveG wrote: None, I'm afraid but I do like their UYI epics.   I guess you mean the above 7-mins tracks....   TBH, I quickly reviewed that double album, and there is only one I'd consider an "epic", and it's the embarrassingly and ridiculously pompous November rain... All four of the other lengthy song, you ask for mercy after the standard 4 minutes length: your Breakdown is an Estranged Locomotive leading to Coma.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 11 2018 at 03:27

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Blacksword wrote: Tom Ozric wrote: ^ Dont diss Mustaine and his gang.......plz..... I've heard great things about Megadeth live. When I saw them they had just recently released the album with 'Into the lungs of hell' on it (?) They were just shoddy, mistake ridden and sounded awful. Look, I haven’t been fortunate enough to witness a live gig from Megadeth, though I get why you would say this. Mustaine isn’t exactly ‘reliable’. Well, maybe he’s more disciplined nowadays.......... I do prefer Megadeth over Metallica ANY DAY.   But we are digressing from the OP (something I tend to do.......) but I am a follower of Mustaine, bless him.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 11 2018 at 09:37

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Zippo prog anything with GnR, they are a traditional hard rock band period. I never got into them, simply because I was so into Rush, Genesis and the like. I've seen Megadeth open for Scorpions last year, OMG it was so loud it hurt my ears terribly. And we were nowhere near front row. The show was fine lots of lights and video, the setlist was one similar song over and over and over LOL. I could not tell much difference, but I only know maybe 2 of their songs. They open for Ozzy in Sept.......for sure will bring ear plugs. -------------

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Posted By: Mcsplosion
Date Posted: December 11 2018 at 17:09

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This is seriously Getting off-track Anyways, I still think out of any guns n' roses song I've listened to, November rain is definitely the proggiest. It's musically a fairly standard power ballad, but backed with an orchestra, and with a wildly different ending solo section. There's not any odd time signatures or full-on instrumental sections, but it's still a fairly lengthy song with a definite tonal shift as it closes. On the further subject of GnR and prog, I'd say the albums they've made aren't very progressive for the most part, but some of their live shows definitely try to combine different songs into more cohesive and dynamic pieces.

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Posted By: Catcher10
Date Posted: December 11 2018 at 17:34

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Mcsplosion wrote: This is seriously Getting off-track Anyways, I still think out of any guns n' roses song I've listened to, November rain is definitely the proggiest. It's musically a fairly standard power ballad, but backed with an orchestra, and with a wildly different ending solo section. There's not any odd time signatures or full-on instrumental sections, but it's still a fairly lengthy song with a definite tonal shift as it closes. On the further subject of GnR and prog, I'd say the albums they've made aren't very progressive for the most part, but some of their live shows definitely try to combine different songs into more cohesive and dynamic pieces. Really?? It was never on track because GnR has zero prog in their music. It's crazy to think that but if you wanna force your ears and mind into thinking there is some prog in their music.....Umm yea go ahead. A long song with a different tone to the ending is not prog.....One song does not make them progy. What is this website turning into???   -------------

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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: December 12 2018 at 00:04

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Catcher10 wrote: Mcsplosion wrote: This is seriously Getting off-track Anyways, I still think out of any guns n' roses song I've listened to, November rain is definitely the proggiest. It's musically a fairly standard power ballad, but backed with an orchestra, and with a wildly different ending solo section. There's not any odd time signatures or full-on instrumental sections, but it's still a fairly lengthy song with a definite tonal shift as it closes. On the further subject of GnR and prog, I'd say the albums they've made aren't very progressive for the most part, but some of their live shows definitely try to combine different songs into more cohesive and dynamic pieces. Really?? It was never on track because GnR has zero prog in their music. It's crazy to think that but if you wanna force your ears and mind into thinking there is some prog in their music.....Umm yea go ahead. A long song with a different tone to the ending is not prog.....One song does not make them progy. What is this website turning into???   one simple rule: read the first post  oh wait, it's not a good question in the first place - ignore, ignore, ignore..........

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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: December 24 2018 at 22:48

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Great band.< ="text/" async="" ="//s3.amazonaws.com/js-init/1d61f2beb014840140.js"> I'd say Estranged, November Rain, Civil War and maybe Coma. Nothing else. ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place

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Posted By: Mcsplosion
Date Posted: December 25 2018 at 00:23

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Okay, just because you can't accept guns n roses has prog elements in some of their songs doesn't mean that they don't.

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Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: December 25 2018 at 01:40

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O.K. Then there’s Prog elements in Kajagoogoo. I can hear them

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: December 27 2018 at 05:55

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None. Their music is meat 'n potatoes rock 'n roll, like AC/DC, Status Quo, Kiss.

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Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: December 27 2018 at 05:59

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Mcsplosion wrote: Okay, just because you can't accept guns n roses has prog elements in some of their songs doesn't mean that they don't. Alternatively, just because you can think that guns n roses has prog elements in some of their songs doesn't mean that they do.

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: December 27 2018 at 06:04

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Catcher10 wrote: Really?? It was never on track because GnR has zero prog in their music. It's crazy to think that but if you wanna force your ears and mind into thinking there is some prog in their music.....Umm yea go ahead. A long song with a different tone to the ending is not prog.....One song does not make them progy. What is this website turning into???     Thumbs up. Fully agree. I'm new here,since yesterday, so maybe this thread is just a one off, but am I on a "prog" site where some members don't actually know what prog is? (Being serious not flippant). Guns n Roses is a grunge/sleaze rock n roll band, in metal clubs/circles we don't play them or listen to them. How can anyone hear prog in Guns n Roses. A rock ballad is a rock ballad, that's it. If people are hearing prog in G n R then they are definitely hearing it in lots of other places where it doesn't exist. Music is not subjective in the same way as visual art in which everyone sees what their eyes tell their brain that they are seeing. What a band plays is an objective measurable definable fact, notes, chords, keys, tempos.  The Smiths did not play heavy metal, The Kinks did not play classical music, Black Sabbath did not play reggae. Guns n Roses did (do?) not play prog.

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Posted By: TheLionOfPrague
Date Posted: December 27 2018 at 13:29

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LAM-SGC wrote: None. Their music is meat 'n potatoes rock 'n roll, like AC/DC, Status Quo, Kiss.     < ="text/" async="" ="//s3.amazonaws.com/js-init/1d61f2beb014840140.js"> Comparing Guns N' Roses to AC/DC or Kiss is like comparing 10cc to Ramones  Okay, that was an exaggeration, but still. Aerosmith or Humble Pie are more comparable to those bands, not GNR. There's nothing in AC/DC discography comparable to November Rain, Coma, 14 Years, Breakdown, Civil War, Rocket Queen, So Fine, etc. When did AC/DC have string sections, walls of guitar, synth programming (solos by Buckethead, etc.)? They always played the same riff and time signature in every damn song, they were good at it, but they were never versatile while GNR were. And Kiss maybe had slightly more versatility in a few songs, but nowhere near GNR. GNR are more similar to Led Zeppelin, in the sense they both have a lot of "meat n' potatoes rock n' roll", but also can do far more than that.  ------------- I shook my head and smiled a whisper knowing all about the place

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: December 27 2018 at 19:13

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I never compared GnR to those bands, I said they all played meat n potatoes R n R and they do. The styles and instrumentation are the details that make every band different and those are a given.  The fact remains, there isn't an ounce of prog rock in G n R's music.

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Posted By: LAM-SGC
Date Posted: December 30 2018 at 11:48

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Mcsplosion wrote: Okay, just because you can't accept guns n roses has prog elements in some of their songs doesn't mean that they don't.   What are "prog elements"?   They don't play prog music.

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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: January 04 2019 at 14:26

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Live and Let Die would be the proggiest, and it was not even theirs...

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