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Xonty 
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 Topic: Phaedra or Rubycon?
Posted: December 30 2013 at 06:47 |
Hi again! Wondering which of these albums by Tangerine Dream to listen to so I made this poll!  I have listened to each album here but only a couple of times, and it's been aaaages since then.
I noticed they were quite close together judging by the ratings on PA (Rubycon just taking the lead), but other websites/lists/etc. show them equally being as good as each other in the big picture. Please vote for one of the options and, if possible, comment on why you chose it. Also, I'd like to know if you hear any big differences on the two albums or are they pretty much the same sort of electronic stuff.
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 07:32 |
 Xonty wrote:
Also, I'd like to know if you hear any big differences on the two albums or are they pretty much the same sort of electronic stuff.
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Those are the two TD albums from the '70s that sound the most similar. However, Rubycon has more keyboards and some things not on Phaedra (like backwards guitar for example). Phaedra sounds like improvisations (albeit good ones), while Rubycon sounds like it was designed to be a 2-part album. Beginning with Rubycon the studio music of TD starts to become more composed and less improvised, but they still continued to improvise in concert.
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 07:34 |
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Rubycon. It's just that I like it more because Ricochet (still my favourite) was my first TD album and Rubycon is a bit more simuilar to Ricochet.
My favourite TD era starts with Rubycon and ends with Cyclone.
Edited by someone_else - December 30 2013 at 10:13
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HolyMoly
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 07:40 |
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Phaedra is a very special album for me. Rubycon is great too but not on the level of Phaedra.
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 08:02 |
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both are awesome
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Phaedra
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Dean
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 08:15 |
Phaedra, my first Tango's purchase way back in 1974 and not the last. 
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PabstRibbon
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 08:22 |
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Phaedra is my favourite of the 2 but my ultimate album by TD is Live Encore. My first album by them and it is still amazing
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 09:40 |
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Rubycon. Love it. Not to belittle Phaedra, which is the album that got me into TD.
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Nogbad_The_Bad
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 10:00 |
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I can't split them
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Ian
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Blacksword
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 10:13 |
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Rubycon!
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octopus-4
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 10:33 |
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My fav TD album is Zeit, and Phaedra is closer to it than Rubycon. However they are two great albums if one likes the genre.
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 10:34 |
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ehm.. voted for "both"
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 11:34 |
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always saw them as brother/sister !
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 12:16 |
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I love both of them equally. Amazing albums !!
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 14:53 |
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Phaedra
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 15:07 |
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I prefer Phaedra to Rubycon, but I prefer Tangerine Dream's first four albums (Electronic Meditation, Alpha Centauri, Zeit and Atem) to later efforts. Phaedra was the first TD album I got, but it was the debut that really turned me on to Tangerine Dream.
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 15:09 |
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Phaedra
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verslibre
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 19:01 |
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Love them both, but I prefer R U B Y C O N
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Posted: December 30 2013 at 20:56 |
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Phaedra seems to me a bit more of an all time classic.
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uduwudu
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Posted: December 31 2013 at 04:33 |
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Wouldn't want to be without either but if I had to pick it's the great Phaedra over an excellent Rubycon. Now pairing that up with Ricochet... a different story.
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