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    Posted: January 11 2013 at 20:18
Totally unknown band who've been around since way back when (well 1998, at least) and sound pretty damn good to me. Not outrageously proggy, (some songs have a melodic, almost Asia-like AOR feel to them), but prog nevertheless. A three-piece in the style of ELP (keys/bass/drums), though sounding nothing like ELP really. Embarrassed
 
Just two albums in all that time - & both released in the last two years.
 
Anyway, rather than me waffling on about them any more, here's their own story taken from the 'about us' section of the band's own website: http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/
 
Kerygmatic Project
 
"Kerygmatic Project was born in 1998, created by Samuele Tadini, Danilo Nobili and Marco Campagnolo, with the purpose of composing original music that recover in style and construction the great British progressive rock tradition of the seventies and eighties, renewed tradition with a new key able to embrace different styles, so as to constitute an original sound well recognizable. The Kerygmatic Project compositions are affected, in fact, from the contributions of various genres taken by rock, pop, jazz, fusion and classical music compositions, by proposing that, in fact, could hardly be categorized in a precise genre and that are the result a well-defined philosophy.
 According to a definition that seems appropriate, the Kerygmatic Project can be seen as the fresh expression of prog & pop music, a term coined by the group, as they are among the few to have put in a cohesion not cloying, but well balanced, what a pleasant and non-trivial drifts from pop music with art-rock, which comes from the progressive tradition.
 The choice to organize themselves as a trio, giving much of the keyboards, there is only one element that can remember Emerson, Lake & Palmer, but also the most characteristic expression of someone who wants to do with essential something that transcends it.
 Some of the admirers of the group, use to call it as an Emerson, Lake & Palmer style trio, with a sound and character very similar to the Genesis Collins period era, but with an originality all its own.
 The Kerygmatic Project, while not ignoring the great Italian tradition of PFM, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso and Le Orme, just to mention some significant examples, prefer to use the English language. The internationality and the musicality of the language, make English the language chosen for compositions which are channeled in a tradition that, initially, as we already mentioned, has its own origins in England between the end of the ‘60’s and the early ‘70’s."
 
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 "The Kerygmatic Project philosophy is very simple: no prejudice and no party involvement. Rationality, emotion and the Christian faith, exercised in a context of respect for the person, become determined element for a creativity that is free to roam anywhere, but well aware of the need to refer to those absolute values which are based on truth and not on nothing.
 The Kerygmatic Project music is therefore an expression of a language universally effective which has many shades and colors. Their music does not aim to be entirely new, but rather represent a renewal in the context of a precise tradition.
 Accommodating their music means to accept an ideal expressive content that does not stop at mere pretense of an occasionally passing play, but that tends to make reflect deeply on issues that, sometimes, can also be distant from those commonly used in musical composition.
 The originality of this, if you want to talk, perhaps is in the fact that literature, history, psychology, art, science, philosophy and theology, become the favorite fields of research of the group, as here it has been shown clearly. The group does not want to make music for the body but also for the mind, well aware that the protagonist whom they claim is always the person."
 
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 "The term “Kerygmatic”, which comes from the “Kerygma”, has two basic meanings, and from both, in fact, the group has taken on the aspects that best represent it.
 In the common meaning of the term, of Greek origin, it means “message” or, more accurately, “proclamation”. This is the main meaning accepted by the trio: Kerygmatic Project want to convey musically the importance of the communicability of ideas in a global sense.
 In a philosophical-theological meaning, the term “Kerygma” means the earliest example of Christian preaching. In ancient times, in the community of origin, the term designated the core of Christianity. Even in that meaning the group took inspiration.
 Kerygmatic Project are in fact a compact core in which the expression, communication, imagination, technique and humility (following the Christian way), become essential elements of their being a group oriented to the research and experimentation."
 
 
- Marco Campagnolo / keyboards
- Danilo Nobili / drums
- Samuele Tadini / bass
 
 
GREEK STARS GALLERY (2011)
1. Greek Stars Gallery (6:55)
2. Perpetual Motion (2:02)
3. There’s no Ground For Complain (7:48)
4. Beautiful You Tonight (7:42)
5. Starlight (4:59)
6. Stars and Angels (6:16)
7. The Tiger Paper’s Great Parade (4:28)
8. Where The Bell Tolls Again (4:15)
9. The Academy (8:05)
10. The Landscape of Mind (4:12)
 
All tracks composed, arranged and performer by Kerygmatic Project
Recorded at the Dreamer’s Lake Studios, Carciano di Stresa – Italy, 2011.
Management: Marco Campagnolo, Danilo Nobili, Samuele Tadini
Recording engineer: Danilo Nobili
Produced by Kerygmatic Project
 
NOTHING BUT TRUTH (2010)
1. We Believe
2. It Isn’t All That it’s Cracked up to Be
3. So… I Have Lost You
4. Taking Down Some Notes
5. Broken Mirrors
6. The Self-Made Man
7. I Wanna Kiss Your Heart
8. Nightmare Presage
9. Whispering Hearts
10. Nothing but Love
11. The Dawn of the Century
12. Creatures of Light
 
 
All tracks composed, arranged and performer by Kerygmatic Project
Recorded at the Dreamer’s Lake Studios, Carciano di Stresa – Italy, 2010.
Management: Marco Campagnolo, Danilo Nobili, Samuele Tadini
Recording engineer: Danilo Nobili
Produced by Kerygmatic Project
Photographer: Davide “Dave” Varalli
 
 
Listen to the whole of 'Nothing But Truth' here:  http://www.tunecore.com/music/kerygmatic-project
or on the band's multimedia (audio) page: http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/multimedia/audio.html
 
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From 'Nothing But Truth':
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
And from "Greek Stars Gallery" (the last three full songs are live versions only I'm afraid):
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
There are certainly elements of symph in some of this stuff to me, but watered down by the AOR type song structures to a large extent, so I ain't sure where to send them tbf. I've seen this described as RPI, but it's not RPI as far as my own scant understanding of that sub goes (they sing in English for one thing) and Proggnosis have them as Progressive Rock: Symphonic - Other/General: http://www.proggnosis.com/ARTIST_DETAIL.aspx?AID=11214
 
They belong on the site - so, I give you: Kerygmatic Project Embarrassed 
 
Thoughts?  Ermm
 
 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2013 at 20:23
Mjello David.

I will be in front of my computer tomorrow and checking this out
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 09:42
As with fellow country men The Watch, it's fairly obvious where these guys have lifted their inspiration from, but most of the Genesis flavour does however emanate from the vocals. Sure there's a similar 80s vibe in the synth department, often recalling And then there were three through Duke, but from there on end - the friendliness and quite 'open' songstructures suggest to me an altogether different beast. The melodies actually remind me more of Eros RamazottiEmbarrassed

I'm thinking Neo or xover.... Hmmmm going with the former first.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 10:38
Listening to the track `We Believe' from the album `Nothing But Truth'. and it sounds a lot like modern Yes - especially the Rabin/`Union' era?

Listening to a few more tracks and I pick up a definate modern Yes/Asia flavour, commercial adult rock with progressive trimmings and colourings.

Lots of confidence in the vocals, snappy energy in the playing - A really upbeat kind of sound too!

Good luck, fellas, hope you find them a good home!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2013 at 23:01
I received Yam Yam's PM

Well, in first place we must check all the albums.

NOTHING BUT TRUTH (2010) is mostly AOR, hardly Prog related

GREEK STARS GALLERY (2011) Prog Eelated, more in the vein of Rabin's Yes or late Collins Genesis.

IMHO not remotely Symphonic, so I leave other teams to decide about them, but I believe that Prog relatesd maybe

Iván



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 00:31
Thanks Iván and Gulle. The band are currently in Neo's patch, and the evaluation can be followed here: http://progfreak.com/Kerygmatic-Project-155164.html?path=pa/recent  Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 00:53
^ Checked their videoclips and agreed with Ivan. Also for me, not Symphonic nor Neo ... Related or Crossover?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 01:19
I'll add this to Crossover's chart as soon as Neo have a second 'move' or 'no' vote entered for them in their own chart. I think we should at least give this band a chance in Crossover before looking at the Prog-Related option. Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 09:27
Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

I'll add this to Crossover's chart as soon as Neo have a second 'move' or 'no' vote entered for them in their own chart. I think we should at least give this band a chance in Crossover before looking at the Prog-Related option. Ermm

Let me give you an honest opinion Yam Yam.

Respectfully, Prog is not award or a quality certificate to give a band a chance to be in a full Prog Genre.

A band is Prog or  not Prog, if it's Prog Related and we force their inclusion to a full Prog genre, we are lying to our readers in order to give them a chance to be part of a genre where they don't belong.

Hope you take it well, it's my 100% honest opinion.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 11:56
I understand what you are saying Iván and accept it fully. The Crossover team will listen to the music and if they decide that Prog Related is where Kerygmatic belong, that is what they will vote. We have had two such cases in the last week or so already. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 13 2013 at 20:56
I voted move, I really didn't hear what I would think of as Neo for my tastes.  Crossover maybe.
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Added to Crossover chart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 14 2013 at 16:22
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

I'll add this to Crossover's chart as soon as Neo have a second 'move' or 'no' vote entered for them in their own chart. I think we should at least give this band a chance in Crossover before looking at the Prog-Related option. Ermm

Let me give you an honest opinion Yam Yam.

Respectfully, Prog is not award or a quality certificate to give a band a chance to be in a full Prog Genre.

A band is Prog or  not Prog, if it's Prog Related and we force their inclusion to a full Prog genre, we are lying to our readers in order to give them a chance to be part of a genre where they don't belong.

Hope you take it well, it's my 100% honest opinion.

Iván


Opinions, as many of them as there are people on this site.


However unexpectedly, I believe in this particular case, Iván is correct. This is rather weak material. There is something, but Prog-related sounds like a best choice to me.


Edited by Marty McFly - January 14 2013 at 17:34
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2013 at 07:06
So, what is the final idea about this band ?????Where  will they be present in  prog related or cross ove zone???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 22 2013 at 12:12
http://progfreak.com/Kerygmatic-Project-155164.html?path=pa/recent
 
2 votes for Prog Related and one abstention so far on the Crossover chart.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2013 at 07:09
ok I got it, I hope they will be soon apoved,
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2013 at 11:34
Originally posted by b_olariu b_olariu wrote:

ok I got it, I hope they will be soon apoved,

Apparently points towards the Administrator's territory.

I honestly believe there's a strong case for Prog Related, but not my call.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2013 at 11:44
This is a classical case that demonstrates most sites don't know a damn about Symphonic

Quote Country: ItalySub GenreSymphonic
Label: Self-released
Release date: November 29, 2012

http://newprogreleases.blogspot.com/2012/11/kerygmatic-project-greek-stars-gallery.html

Quote Anche se ai più sconosciuti i Kerygmatic Project non sono degli esordienti e il nucleo base del gruppo di Stresa ha i propri natali già nel 1998 quando Samuele Tadini, bassista e cantante, Danilo Nobili, batterista e Marco Campagnolo, tastierista si ritrovano uniti dalla stessa passione per le atmosfere evocative del progressive inglese anni ’70. Formazione a trio e ampio uso delle tastiere rimandano ovviamente alla tradizione degli Emerson Lake & Palmer (loro grande fonte d’ispirazione) ma in questo loro secondo album (dopo Nothing but Truth), Greek Stars Gallery, ritroviamo anche fortissimi legami con Genesis e gli Yes che potrebbero davvero solleticare quanti hanno amato quella dorata stagione del rock progressivo.

Although unknown to most, Kerygmatic the Project are not the rookies and the core base of the Stresa has its birth in 1998 when Samuel Tadini, bassist and singer, Danilo Nobili, Marco Campagnolo and drummer, keyboardist are united by the same passion to the atmosphere evocative of the English progressive '70s. Training trio and extensive use of keyboards refer of course to the tradition ofEmerson Lake & Palmer (their source of inspiration), but in this their second album (after Nothing but Truth ), Greek Stars Gallery , also found strong links with Genesis and the Yes that could really tickle those that loved the golden season of progressive rock.

Automatic translation, I can do it better but too lazy mood today

http://www.unprogged.com/showthread.php?t=7639

They compare this band with ELP, Genesis and Yes..Well, they are dead wrong

Quote Kerygmatic Project

Genre: SubGenre - Style
Progressive Rock: Symphonic - Other/General

http://www.proggnosis.com/ARTIST_Detail.aspx?AID=11214

Even the mighty Proggnosis says Symphonic and they are wrong.

In Prog Archives already have been rejected by Neo Prog and almost by Crossover, but if the case wasn't so obvious, we would have 10 persons cursing the Symphonic Team and blaming me for keeping away a band that should be added to symphonic.

Please, the teams here know their work, we try to listen all their material,  while most people outside believe everything or almost everything related with Prog is Symphonic, we take the time to check each band.

Iván




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2013 at 14:57
Originally posted by yam yam yam yam wrote:

Totally unknown band who've been around since way back when (well 1998, at least) and sound pretty damn good to me. Not outrageously proggy, (some songs have a melodic, almost Asia-like AOR feel to them), but prog nevertheless. A three-piece in the style of ELP (keys/bass/drums), though sounding nothing like ELP really. Embarrassed
 
Just two albums in all that time - & both released in the last two years.
 
Anyway, rather than me waffling on about them any more, here's their own story taken from the 'about us' section of the band's own website: http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/
 
Kerygmatic Project
 
"Kerygmatic Project was born in 1998, created by Samuele Tadini, Danilo Nobili and Marco Campagnolo, with the purpose of composing original music that recover in style and construction the great British progressive rock tradition of the seventies and eighties, renewed tradition with a new key able to embrace different styles, so as to constitute an original sound well recognizable. The Kerygmatic Project compositions are affected, in fact, from the contributions of various genres taken by rock, pop, jazz, fusion and classical music compositions, by proposing that, in fact, could hardly be categorized in a precise genre and that are the result a well-defined philosophy.
 According to a definition that seems appropriate, the Kerygmatic Project can be seen as the fresh expression of prog & pop music, a term coined by the group, as they are among the few to have put in a cohesion not cloying, but well balanced, what a pleasant and non-trivial drifts from pop music with art-rock, which comes from the progressive tradition.
 The choice to organize themselves as a trio, giving much of the keyboards, there is only one element that can remember Emerson, Lake & Palmer, but also the most characteristic expression of someone who wants to do with essential something that transcends it.
 Some of the admirers of the group, use to call it as an Emerson, Lake & Palmer style trio, with a sound and character very similar to the Genesis Collins period era, but with an originality all its own.
 The Kerygmatic Project, while not ignoring the great Italian tradition of PFM, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso and Le Orme, just to mention some significant examples, prefer to use the English language. The internationality and the musicality of the language, make English the language chosen for compositions which are channeled in a tradition that, initially, as we already mentioned, has its own origins in England between the end of the ‘60’s and the early ‘70’s."
 
PHILOSOPHY
 "The Kerygmatic Project philosophy is very simple: no prejudice and no party involvement. Rationality, emotion and the Christian faith, exercised in a context of respect for the person, become determined element for a creativity that is free to roam anywhere, but well aware of the need to refer to those absolute values which are based on truth and not on nothing.
 The Kerygmatic Project music is therefore an expression of a language universally effective which has many shades and colors. Their music does not aim to be entirely new, but rather represent a renewal in the context of a precise tradition.
 Accommodating their music means to accept an ideal expressive content that does not stop at mere pretense of an occasionally passing play, but that tends to make reflect deeply on issues that, sometimes, can also be distant from those commonly used in musical composition.
 The originality of this, if you want to talk, perhaps is in the fact that literature, history, psychology, art, science, philosophy and theology, become the favorite fields of research of the group, as here it has been shown clearly. The group does not want to make music for the body but also for the mind, well aware that the protagonist whom they claim is always the person."
 
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 "The term “Kerygmatic”, which comes from the “Kerygma”, has two basic meanings, and from both, in fact, the group has taken on the aspects that best represent it.
 In the common meaning of the term, of Greek origin, it means “message” or, more accurately, “proclamation”. This is the main meaning accepted by the trio: Kerygmatic Project want to convey musically the importance of the communicability of ideas in a global sense.
 In a philosophical-theological meaning, the term “Kerygma” means the earliest example of Christian preaching. In ancient times, in the community of origin, the term designated the core of Christianity. Even in that meaning the group took inspiration.
 Kerygmatic Project are in fact a compact core in which the expression, communication, imagination, technique and humility (following the Christian way), become essential elements of their being a group oriented to the research and experimentation."
 
 
- Marco Campagnolo / keyboards
- Danilo Nobili / drums
- Samuele Tadini / bass
 
 
GREEK STARS GALLERY (2011)
1. Greek Stars Gallery (6:55)
2. Perpetual Motion (2:02)
3. There’s no Ground For Complain (7:48)
4. Beautiful You Tonight (7:42)
5. Starlight (4:59)
6. Stars and Angels (6:16)
7. The Tiger Paper’s Great Parade (4:28)
8. Where The Bell Tolls Again (4:15)
9. The Academy (8:05)
10. The Landscape of Mind (4:12)
 
All tracks composed, arranged and performer by Kerygmatic Project
Recorded at the Dreamer’s Lake Studios, Carciano di Stresa – Italy, 2011.
Management: Marco Campagnolo, Danilo Nobili, Samuele Tadini
Recording engineer: Danilo Nobili
Produced by Kerygmatic Project
 
NOTHING BUT TRUTH (2010)
1. We Believe
2. It Isn’t All That it’s Cracked up to Be
3. So… I Have Lost You
4. Taking Down Some Notes
5. Broken Mirrors
6. The Self-Made Man
7. I Wanna Kiss Your Heart
8. Nightmare Presage
9. Whispering Hearts
10. Nothing but Love
11. The Dawn of the Century
12. Creatures of Light
 
 
All tracks composed, arranged and performer by Kerygmatic Project
Recorded at the Dreamer’s Lake Studios, Carciano di Stresa – Italy, 2010.
Management: Marco Campagnolo, Danilo Nobili, Samuele Tadini
Recording engineer: Danilo Nobili
Produced by Kerygmatic Project
Photographer: Davide “Dave” Varalli
 
 
Listen to the whole of 'Nothing But Truth' here:  http://www.tunecore.com/music/kerygmatic-project
or on the band's multimedia (audio) page: http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/multimedia/audio.html
 
Some tubes:
 
From 'Nothing But Truth':
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
And from "Greek Stars Gallery" (the last three full songs are live versions only I'm afraid):
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
There are certainly elements of symph in some of this stuff to me, but watered down by the AOR type song structures to a large extent, so I ain't sure where to send them tbf. I've seen this described as RPI, but it's not RPI as far as my own scant understanding of that sub goes (they sing in English for one thing) and Proggnosis have them as Progressive Rock: Symphonic - Other/General: http://www.proggnosis.com/ARTIST_DETAIL.aspx?AID=11214
 
They belong on the site - so, I give you: Kerygmatic Project Embarrassed 
 
Thoughts?  Ermm
 
 
 
Listening to the last track you posted Yam-Yam, like it a lot, very Genesis Phil Collins era, once it's finished I must listen to the other ones you posted above too, I like them a lot and am most curious to listen more really Approve
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 23 2013 at 14:59
Yam-Yam whoohooo listening to THE ACADEMY plus it's live !!! whoohaaa even better more so than Starlight! Hahahaha very YES too, I like them, they are really good yay!!!!! Thumbs UpThumbs UpClap
 
Vocals too here are very Jon Anderson or Sean Filkins, but instrumentals (certain bits remind me even of Roundabout) too are very YES. This I really REALLY like!!! whooopieeeee!!!! Big smile


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