Kerygmatic Project (Italy): For...Somewhere?
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Topic: Kerygmatic Project (Italy): For...Somewhere?
Posted By: yam yam
Subject: Kerygmatic Project (Italy): For...Somewhere?
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 20:18
Totally unknown band who've been around since way back when (well 1998, at least) and sound pretty damn good to me. Not outrageously proggy, (some songs have a melodic, almost Asia-like AOR feel to them), but prog nevertheless. A three-piece in the style of ELP (keys/bass/drums), though sounding nothing like ELP really.  Just two albums in all that time - & both released in the last two years. Anyway, rather than me waffling on about them any more, here's their own story taken from the 'about us' section of the band's own website: http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/" rel="nofollow - http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/ http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/kerygmatic_project.jpg" rel="nofollow">  "Kerygmatic Project was born in 1998, created by Samuele Tadini, Danilo Nobili and Marco Campagnolo, with the purpose of composing original music that recover in style and construction the great British progressive rock tradition of the seventies and eighties, renewed tradition with a new key able to embrace different styles, so as to constitute an original sound well recognizable. The Kerygmatic Project compositions are affected, in fact, from the contributions of various genres taken by rock, pop, jazz, fusion and classical music compositions, by proposing that, in fact, could hardly be categorized in a precise genre and that are the result a well-defined philosophy. According to a definition that seems appropriate, the Kerygmatic Project can be seen as the fresh expression of prog & pop music, a term coined by the group, as they are among the few to have put in a cohesion not cloying, but well balanced, what a pleasant and non-trivial drifts from pop music with art-rock, which comes from the progressive tradition. The choice to organize themselves as a trio, giving much of the keyboards, there is only one element that can remember Emerson, Lake & Palmer, but also the most characteristic expression of someone who wants to do with essential something that transcends it. Some of the admirers of the group, use to call it as an Emerson, Lake & Palmer style trio, with a sound and character very similar to the Genesis Collins period era, but with an originality all its own. The Kerygmatic Project, while not ignoring the great Italian tradition of PFM, Banco del Mutuo Soccorso and Le Orme, just to mention some significant examples, prefer to use the English language. The internationality and the musicality of the language, make English the language chosen for compositions which are channeled in a tradition that, initially, as we already mentioned, has its own origins in England between the end of the ‘60’s and the early ‘70’s." PHILOSOPHY "The Kerygmatic Project philosophy is very simple: no prejudice and no party involvement. Rationality, emotion and the Christian faith, exercised in a context of respect for the person, become determined element for a creativity that is free to roam anywhere, but well aware of the need to refer to those absolute values which are based on truth and not on nothing. The Kerygmatic Project music is therefore an expression of a language universally effective which has many shades and colors. Their music does not aim to be entirely new, but rather represent a renewal in the context of a precise tradition. Accommodating their music means to accept an ideal expressive content that does not stop at mere pretense of an occasionally passing play, but that tends to make reflect deeply on issues that, sometimes, can also be distant from those commonly used in musical composition. The originality of this, if you want to talk, perhaps is in the fact that literature, history, psychology, art, science, philosophy and theology, become the favorite fields of research of the group, as here it has been shown clearly. The group does not want to make music for the body but also for the mind, well aware that the protagonist whom they claim is always the person." NAME "The term “Kerygmatic”, which comes from the “Kerygma”, has two basic meanings, and from both, in fact, the group has taken on the aspects that best represent it. In the common meaning of the term, of Greek origin, it means “message” or, more accurately, “proclamation”. This is the main meaning accepted by the trio: Kerygmatic Project want to convey musically the importance of the communicability of ideas in a global sense. In a philosophical-theological meaning, the term “Kerygma” means the earliest example of Christian preaching. In ancient times, in the community of origin, the term designated the core of Christianity. Even in that meaning the group took inspiration. Kerygmatic Project are in fact a compact core in which the expression, communication, imagination, technique and humility (following the Christian way), become essential elements of their being a group oriented to the research and experimentation." - Marco Campagnolo / keyboards - Danilo Nobili / drums - Samuele Tadini / bass http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/" rel="nofollow - http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/ http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kerygmatic-Project/105805846116201" rel="nofollow - http://www.facebook.com/pages/Kerygmatic-Project/105805846116201 http://www.youtube.com/user/kerygmaticproject" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/user/kerygmaticproject http://www.myspace.com/kerygmaticproject" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/kerygmaticproject (not updated in more than a year, no audio samples) GREEK STARS GALLERY (2011) 1. Greek Stars Gallery (6:55) 2. Perpetual Motion (2:02) 3. There’s no Ground For Complain (7:48) 4. Beautiful You Tonight (7:42) 5. Starlight (4:59) 6. Stars and Angels (6:16) 7. The Tiger Paper’s Great Parade (4:28) 8. Where The Bell Tolls Again (4:15) 9. The Academy (8:05) 10. The Landscape of Mind (4:12) All tracks composed, arranged and performer by Kerygmatic Project Recorded at the Dreamer’s Lake Studios, Carciano di Stresa – Italy, 2011. Management: Marco Campagnolo, Danilo Nobili, Samuele Tadini Recording engineer: Danilo Nobili Produced by Kerygmatic Project NOTHING BUT TRUTH (2010) 1. We Believe 2. It Isn’t All That it’s Cracked up to Be 3. So… I Have Lost You 4. Taking Down Some Notes 5. Broken Mirrors 6. The Self-Made Man 7. I Wanna Kiss Your Heart 8. Nightmare Presage 9. Whispering Hearts 10. Nothing but Love 11. The Dawn of the Century 12. Creatures of Light All tracks composed, arranged and performer by Kerygmatic Project Recorded at the Dreamer’s Lake Studios, Carciano di Stresa – Italy, 2010. Management: Marco Campagnolo, Danilo Nobili, Samuele Tadini Recording engineer: Danilo Nobili Produced by Kerygmatic Project Photographer: Davide “Dave” Varalli Listen to the whole of 'Nothing But Truth' here: http://www.tunecore.com/music/kerygmatic-project" rel="nofollow - http://www.tunecore.com/music/kerygmatic-project or on the band's multimedia (audio) page: http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/multimedia/audio.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/en/multimedia/audio.html Some tubes: From 'Nothing But Truth': And from "Greek Stars Gallery" (the last three full songs are live versions only I'm afraid): There are certainly elements of symph in some of this stuff to me, but watered down by the AOR type song structures to a large extent, so I ain't sure where to send them tbf. I've seen this described as RPI, but it's not RPI as far as my own scant understanding of that sub goes (they sing in English for one thing) and Proggnosis have them as Progressive Rock: Symphonic - Other/General: http://www.proggnosis.com/ARTIST_DETAIL.aspx?AID=11214" rel="nofollow - http://www.proggnosis.com/ARTIST_DETAIL.aspx?AID=11214 They belong on the site - so, I give you: Kerygmatic Project Thoughts?  |
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Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 11 2013 at 20:23
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Mjello David.
I will be in front of my computer tomorrow and checking this out  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 09:42
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As with fellow country men The Watch, it's fairly obvious where these guys have lifted their inspiration from, but most of the Genesis flavour does however emanate from the vocals. Sure there's a similar 80s vibe in the synth department, often recalling And then there were three through Duke, but from there on end - the friendliness and quite 'open' songstructures suggest to me an altogether different beast. The melodies actually remind me more of Eros Ramazotti I'm thinking Neo or xover.... Hmmmm going with the former first. As always, and as I wrote you last night David -a real pleasure working with you. ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 10:38
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Listening to the track `We Believe' from the album `Nothing But Truth'. and it sounds a lot like modern Yes - especially the Rabin/`Union' era?
Listening to a few more tracks and I pick up a definate modern Yes/Asia flavour, commercial adult rock with progressive trimmings and colourings. Lots of confidence in the vocals, snappy energy in the playing - A really upbeat kind of sound too! Good luck, fellas, hope you find them a good home! 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 12 2013 at 23:01
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I received Yam Yam's PM Well, in first place we must check all the albums. NOTHING BUT TRUTH (2010) is mostly AOR, hardly Prog related GREEK STARS GALLERY (2011) Prog Eelated, more in the vein of Rabin's Yes or late Collins Genesis. IMHO not remotely Symphonic, so I leave other teams to decide about them, but I believe that Prog relatesd maybe Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 00:31
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Thanks Iván and Gulle. The band are currently in Neo's patch, and the evaluation can be followed here: http://progfreak.com/Kerygmatic-Project-155164.html?path=pa/recent" rel="nofollow - http://progfreak.com/Kerygmatic-Project-155164.html?path=pa/recent
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Posted By: DamoXt7942
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 00:53
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^ Checked their videoclips and agreed with Ivan. Also for me, not Symphonic nor Neo ... Related or Crossover? ------------- http://www.facebook.com/damoxt7942" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 01:19
I'll add this to Crossover's chart as soon as Neo have a second 'move' or 'no' vote entered for them in their own chart. I think we should at least give this band a chance in Crossover before looking at the Prog-Related option. 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 09:27
Let me give you an honest opinion Yam Yam. Respectfully, Prog is not award or a quality certificate to give a band a chance to be in a full Prog Genre. A band is Prog or not Prog, if it's Prog Related and we force their inclusion to a full Prog genre, we are lying to our readers in order to give them a chance to be part of a genre where they don't belong. Hope you take it well, it's my 100% honest opinion. Iván -------------
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yam yam wrote:Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 11:56
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I understand what you are saying Iván and accept it fully. The Crossover team will listen to the music and if they decide that Prog Related is where Kerygmatic belong, that is what they will vote. We have had two such cases in the last week or so already.
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Posted By: Roland113
Date Posted: January 13 2013 at 20:56
| I voted move, I really didn't hear what I would think of as Neo for my tastes. Crossover maybe. |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 05:39
| Added to Crossover chart. |
Posted By: Marty McFly
Date Posted: January 14 2013 at 16:22
Opinions, as many of them as there are people on this site. However unexpectedly, I believe in this particular case, Iván is correct. This is rather weak material. There is something, but Prog-related sounds like a best choice to me. ------------- There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: January 22 2013 at 07:06
| So, what is the final idea about this band ?????Where will they be present in prog related or cross ove zone??? |
Posted By: seventhsojourn
Date Posted: January 22 2013 at 12:12
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http://progfreak.com/Kerygmatic-Project-155164.html?path=pa/recent" rel="nofollow - http://progfreak.com/Kerygmatic-Project-155164.html?path=pa/recent
2 votes for Prog Related and one abstention so far on the Crossover chart.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 07:09
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ok I got it, I hope they will be soon apoved, |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 11:34
Apparently points towards the Administrator's territory. I honestly believe there's a strong case for Prog Related, but not my call. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 11:44
This is a classical case that demonstrates most sites don't know a damn about Symphonic
They compare this band with ELP, Genesis and Yes..Well, they are dead wrong
Even the mighty Proggnosis says Symphonic and they are wrong. In Prog Archives already have been rejected by Neo Prog and almost by Crossover, but if the case wasn't so obvious, we would have 10 persons cursing the Symphonic Team and blaming me for keeping away a band that should be added to symphonic. Please, the teams here know their work, we try to listen all their material, while most people outside believe everything or almost everything related with Prog is Symphonic, we take the time to check each band. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 14:57
Listening to the last track you posted Yam-Yam, like it a lot, very Genesis Phil Collins era, once it's finished I must listen to the other ones you posted above too, I like them a lot and am most curious to listen more really  A massive hug to you
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 14:59
Yam-Yam whoohooo listening to THE ACADEMY plus it's live !!! whoohaaa even better more so than Starlight! Hahahaha very YES too, I like them, they are really good yay!!!!! 
Vocals too here are very Jon Anderson or Sean Filkins, but instrumentals (certain bits remind me even of Roundabout) too are very YES. This I really REALLY like!!! whooopieeeee!!!!
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 15:14
Oh wow Yam-Yam everysingle track you posted of them keeps changing, in terms of influence, Greek Star Gallery is so very Floyd, from Comfortably Numb, Wish you were here, to HIGH HOPES!!!! Wow, this track has all thoe sensitive deep tunes and feelings, most memorable licks too 
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 18:22
Oh wow I am so excited about them!!! Yam-Yam, wow yay !!!!! More links pls wow haaaa and aaahhhh this is what I like thus makes me hyper happy!!! and more aaaahhh..... 's 
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 18:31
| Oh no they might be crossover, but so are many, this band touched me and believe me I am very difficult, they deserve to be here, they grabbed seriously!!!!!!! Go on listen some more, awwww please fo I like them so much still listening to them and never heard of them before the vocals and the instrumebtals are magnificent plus certainly prog. Guys please listen again and reconsider, it's a shame them not being here, they grabbed me so much!!!!!!! :( oh wow awwwww |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 18:33
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 18:35
No way that they shouldn't be allowed/included here!!!! Seriously!!! 
Makes no sense, they are good!
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 18:43
I honestly don't care in what genre they are included, never heard of them before prior to this forum post, however I am certainly taken by them a lot!!! They should be here!!!!!!! However Marty McFly's cat, I love his ginger cat more and want to steal him coz he is awwwww ....
just too cute! |
Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 18:44
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World record achieved : Septuple post.
Edit: new world record achieved : Octuple post. ------------- 
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 19:04
hehehe
Sheavy, my apologies yeah I see myself too much above  |
Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 19:16
Sheavy, this must be my decuple one however hereby I must add that Ivan is one of my ultimate favorite collabs, he has the most awesome taste, quite similar to mine, I have read many of his reviews too, now I am just hoping he will give this band a second listen. This said I don't know this band, never heard of them before this forum post.
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Posted By: Sheavy
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 20:04
No need to apologize.  -------------
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 23 2013 at 23:19
They still have a chance in Prog related (IMO strong), of course if Crossover doesn't decide to include them. Iván -------------
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 24 2013 at 05:01
Wow I wrote all that above  hihi Thank you for the reply Ivan, last night was my first listen and obviously reading all that I wrote above (again ) I quite liked them haha.. Sonia
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: January 24 2013 at 05:02
Wow I wrote all that above  hihi   Thank you for the reply Ivan, last night was my first listen and obviously reading all that I wrote above (again ) I quite liked them haha..   Sonia |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: January 29 2013 at 02:06
| So, where after all in releated or cross. I think were missing one or two votes |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: January 29 2013 at 04:11
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We're at the 'discuss' stage, where all votes are in except Olav's (& he doesn't always vote) - I would think that with three votes for Prog-Related and one abstention we just need someone with S.C. status to step forward and kindly offer to take the case to admins for us. Maybe Marty or Chris will step up to the plate?...Maybe not! I will keep you updated as further comment arrives in our thread.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: January 29 2013 at 12:00
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ok yam yam |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 29 2013 at 12:46
I will make the suggestion tonight if you want Yam Yam. I believe they should be added in Prog Related} Please send me all the info you have Iván
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 11:51
| still not enough votes? |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 14:54
| It was decided that because Kerygmatic Project is such a little-known band, the admins would almost certainly not be willing to add it to Prog-Related since our definition of PR also requires something of a “legacy performer” quotient. Apparently PR is now for bands with a degree of 'household recognition', or artists of stature and having influence upon others. If PR took every band that just had some “relation” to prog there would be a vast number of new bands we’d have to add.It therefore seems that this is the end of the road for them on PA - apart from this thread, which should show up in a good many google searches for the band with the word 'prog' also included as a search element. (It was actually top of the list when I just did that exact search). |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 05 2013 at 23:44
very strange to me, if this mand doesn't have enough elements of prog to be included in PA,then I don't know, really.
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Posted By: Kati
Date Posted: February 06 2013 at 17:59
I too think they should be added Ivan and it makes me very sad why others have any doubts whatsoever really.Hugs and kiss to you xx.
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: April 21 2013 at 13:18
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Well, it was ultimately decided that the proposal wasn't worth pursuing because the band has no “legacy performer” quotient. PR is essentially reserved these days for bands or artists with an element of 'household recognition', those of widely reccognised stature, or otherwise perceived as having had influence on others. Kerygmatic Project unfortunately fall into none of these categories...But...they have just announced that they are in the process of producing a new album! So - maybe this next one will be the prog masterpiece we have all been waiting for...? Here's the vid they posted to announce their intention to make album number three: OK, it's a bit short...but hey, - it's early days!!
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Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: September 15 2013 at 12:54
New album 'By Sheer Chance' released digitally today (CD to follow): 01 – The Sound Collector
02 – I Wanna Be All of You 03 – I’m Falling in Love with You 04 – Waiting for the Good over Day 05 – Through the Waterfall 06 – This Could Be Another Story 07 – Driving 08 – The Prophetess 09 – Living with No Regrets 10 – By Sheer Chance 11 – In This Cold Winter All tracks composed, arranged and performer by Kerygmatic Project More info, including all the usual download & streaming links, here: http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/store/by-sheer-chance.html" rel="nofollow - http://www.kerygmaticproject.com/store/by-sheer-chance.html . This isn't going to get them a place in the archives anytime soon, but it will be of interest to some members, hopefully... |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 17 2013 at 04:02
| yes I know, but they are still discused here, no aprovel yet??????? |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: September 17 2013 at 04:02
| They fit perfectly in crossover or even related |
Posted By: yam yam
Date Posted: September 17 2013 at 04:35
Well, nobody has ever actually voted 'no' for their inclusion:Kerygmatic Project
As you can see, the general consensus was that they are really a prog related band, and don't belong in a true prog sub genre, but as stated above in my post from 21st April this year (four posts back), it was ultimately decided after some discussion that the proposal for prog related wasn't worth pursuing because the band has no “legacy performer” quotient...They are hardly a well-known 'household name', and admins just wouldn't give the proposal to include them any serious consideration, we feel. This new album changes nothing as far as my own ears are telling me, and I can't see this band being included in the archives unless they move in a somewhat more progressive direction with their next release, should there be one - sufficiently so that they can be finally given the nod in Crossover. |
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