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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Topic: Why is it with most teenagers nowadays? Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:20 |
I am 15 years old myself, and I've noticed every band all of those I know like are either on the radio all the time or its some screamo band that everyone has heard of. I've noticed no one ever goes beyond these things or expand their horizons. They sit there listening to the same stuff and never think to check out anything.
Also, you try to introduce them to prog. If it's over 5 minutes, I often get complaints of it being incredibly long and get asked how I can possibly listen to something that long. Then they don't even give it a chance. The rare times they DO give it a chance, if the first minute has no lyrics, they complain that the whole thing is instrumental and say that a song without vocals is not music. What is that supposed to mean?
What are your guys' thoughts?
Edited by DT-PT - June 05 2010 at 22:21
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:22 |
Y'see, the kids, they listen to the screamo music, which gives them the
brain damage. With their screamin' and their scrammin', and their bippin',
and their boppin'... so they don't know what the prog is all about! You
see, prog is like a Jello Pudding pop — no! Actually, it's more like
Kodak film — no! Actually, prog is like the new Coke; it'll be around
forever! Heh heh heh...
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:25 |
Dude, people have probably been saying that since the dawn of time.
"What's with these teenagers nowadays? Have you heard that new polyphonic music they're playing? Absolute rubbish!"
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:31 |
And their hair and those clothes.
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:33 |
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Y'see, the kids, they listen to the screamo music, which gives them the brain damage. With their screamin' and their scrammin', and their bippin', and their boppin'... so they don't know what the prog is all about! You see, prog is like a Jello Pudding pop — no! Actually, it's more like Kodak film — no! Actually, prog is like the new Coke; it'll be around forever! Heh heh heh... |
I had an uncle named Stewie, and he used to sell prog albums.
....yeah teenagers have always been stupid and stubborn and closed-minded and followers of fads. Now here's a question for you: would you prefer that every teenage dolt around the world were real big into VdGG, Can, and Meshuggah? I sure don't, that would take half the fun out of it
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:35 |
I know what you mean DT-PT. My friends and I used to love hanging out and listening to full albums together, sometimes more than one, and everyone would listen and not talk until it was over. As time went by, I noticed people in my own circle became less willing to do this, they had to talk or "go to the bar".
I think its a shame if people lose the experience of playing whole albums together, but really listening, instead of talking and gabbing.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:35 |
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Y'see, the kids, they listen to the screamo music, which gives them the brain damage. With their screamin' and their scrammin', and their bippin', and their boppin'... so they don't know what the prog is all about! You see, prog is like a Jello Pudding pop — no! Actually, it's more like Kodak film — no! Actually, prog is like the new Coke; it'll be around forever! Heh heh heh... |
I had an uncle named Stewie, and he used to sell prog albums.
....yeah teenagers have always been stupid and stubborn and closed-minded and followers of fads. Now here's a question for you: would you prefer that every teenage dolt around the world were real big into VdGG, Can, and Meshuggah? I sure don't, that would take half the fun out of it |
Thats true. I guess I sort of enjoy being different from my peers. Still, their close-mindedness bugs me. :\
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:40 |
DT-PT I agree and share the same experiences. The problem I see is they are being forcefed this garbage of music and they automatically think it is good. They have not been brought up to listen to a whole album and long songs. In fact, I actually think since they are like 15-16 they don't even have the attention span to last
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:41 |
I have a 16 year old friend - who although she listens to the likes of Nirvana, Slipknot and even Lady Gaga - also listens to more obscure stuff like Crystal Castles and Combichrist (I say obscure... they're not that well known compared to the majority of stuff people her age listen to).
She's not into prog though, really.
Anyhow, the reason they listen to what they do is due to a short attentio... oooh cookies!
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Henry Plainview
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:42 |
They're not close-minded! They just don't care about your music! Most people don't! It's OK!
I liked really bad music when I was your age too, but it all worked out!
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Y'see, the kids, they listen to the screamo music, which gives them the
brain damage. With their screamin' and their scrammin', and their bippin',
and their boppin'... so they don't know what the prog is all about! You
see, prog is like a Jello Pudding pop — no! Actually, it's more like
Kodak film — no! Actually, prog is like the new Coke; it'll be around
forever! Heh heh heh...
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Rap music. I'm not sure if Bill Cosby even knows about the existence of screamo.
Edited by Henry Plainview - June 05 2010 at 22:44
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if you own a sodastream i hate you
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Synchestra
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:43 |
I'm 19, been listening to prog since ages ago. Only person I know who does, really. Sept a few mates who like some prog metal. But I prefer it this way, it lets me have passionate debates with them - and I usually win. Besides, as far as I can tell, alot of people will feel that way about music at any age. I have just as much trouble introduing an adult to, say, King Crimson as I do a teen (and in some cases, thr adult is harder... Strange as it may be)
Though I've yet to meet someone who didn't enjoy at least one side of Opeth
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:44 |
I have to add that I don't think its about age really. My friends that can't sit still anymore are in their 40s. Likewise, I'm sure there are still PLENTY of kids who love music to devote time to active listening.
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:44 |
DT-PT wrote:
I am 15 years old myself, and I've noticed every band all of those I know like are either on the radio all the time or its some screamo band that everyone has heard of. I've noticed no one ever goes beyond these things or expand their horizons. They sit there listening to the same stuff and never think to check out anything.
Also, you try to introduce them to prog. If it's over 5 minutes, I often get complaints of it being incredibly long and get asked how I can possibly listen to something that long. Then they don't even give it a chance. The rare times they DO give it a chance, if the first minute has no lyrics, they complain that the whole thing is instrumental and say that a song without vocals is not music. What is that supposed to mean?
What are your guys' thoughts?
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As a matter of fact, it's not just teenagers that will have such reactions to long instumental filled songs. Most people of whatever age won't try anyting besides what they believe to be their "good pop stuff". However, I do believe that pop is reaching a rather low point; not that I'm very good to give that opinion since I don't really bother much listening to modern pop anyway, and I'm biased from having grown with other times pop which I did like quiet a bit.
Oh, by the way, if they like those screamo bands so much, you should just show them Careful with that axe, Eugene, by Pink Floyd... now that's screaming.
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WalterDigsTunes
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:45 |
Synchestra wrote:
Though I've yet to meet someone who didn't enjoy at least one side of Opeth |
I don't care for them at all.
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:45 |
DT-PT wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Y'see, the kids, they listen to the screamo music, which gives them the brain damage. With their screamin' and their scrammin', and their bippin', and their boppin'... so they don't know what the prog is all about! You see, prog is like a Jello Pudding pop — no! Actually, it's more like Kodak film — no! Actually, prog is like the new Coke; it'll be around forever! Heh heh heh... |
I had an uncle named Stewie, and he used to sell prog albums.
....yeah teenagers have always been stupid and stubborn and closed-minded and followers of fads. Now here's a question for you: would you prefer that every teenage dolt around the world were real big into VdGG, Can, and Meshuggah? I sure don't, that would take half the fun out of it |
Thats true. I guess I sort of enjoy being different from my peers. Still, their close-mindedness bugs me. :\ |
In fact, scene kids tend to think YOU are the one who's being close
minded, because you think all of their music sucks. They will look at
you and say that, if you like Tull or Yes, you listen to "music for dads", stuff that "no one
cares about", instead of what's popular at the time, and hence, "good".
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:47 |
javier0889 wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Y'see, the kids, they listen to the screamo music, which gives them the brain damage. With their screamin' and their scrammin', and their bippin', and their boppin'... so they don't know what the prog is all about! You see, prog is like a Jello Pudding pop — no! Actually, it's more like Kodak film — no! Actually, prog is like the new Coke; it'll be around forever! Heh heh heh... |
I had an uncle named Stewie, and he used to sell prog albums.
....yeah teenagers have always been stupid and stubborn and closed-minded and followers of fads. Now here's a question for you: would you prefer that every teenage dolt around the world were real big into VdGG, Can, and Meshuggah? I sure don't, that would take half the fun out of it |
Thats true. I guess I sort of enjoy being different from my peers. Still, their close-mindedness bugs me. :\ |
In fact, scene kids tend to think YOU are the one who's being close minded, because you think all of their music sucks. They will look at you and say that, if you like Tull or Yes, you listen to "music for dads", stuff that "no one cares about", instead of what's popular at the time, and hence, "good".
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And to think that Tull and Yes were relatively big with the kids in their time
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Synchestra
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:47 |
But we havn't met in real life
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:49 |
But JT and Yes is music for Dads...
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:50 |
javier0889 wrote:
DT-PT wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
Y'see, the kids, they listen to the screamo music, which gives them the brain damage. With their screamin' and their scrammin', and their bippin', and their boppin'... so they don't know what the prog is all about! You see, prog is like a Jello Pudding pop — no! Actually, it's more like Kodak film — no! Actually, prog is like the new Coke; it'll be around forever! Heh heh heh... |
I had an uncle named Stewie, and he used to sell prog albums.
....yeah teenagers have always been stupid and stubborn and closed-minded and followers of fads. Now here's a question for you: would you prefer that every teenage dolt around the world were real big into VdGG, Can, and Meshuggah? I sure don't, that would take half the fun out of it |
Thats true. I guess I sort of enjoy being different from my peers. Still, their close-mindedness bugs me. :\ |
In fact, scene kids tend to think YOU are the one who's being close minded, because you think all of their music sucks. They will look at you and say that, if you like Tull or Yes, you listen to "music for dads", stuff that "no one cares about", instead of what's popular at the time, and hence, "good".
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Most of the kids never even heard of Tull or Yes believe it or not... >_>
The thing is that I've given these genres numerous chances but it just never seems to appeal to me. You are right in the sense they view me as close-minded, but I don't think they realize what close-minded means. Just not liking a genre isn't being close-minded. Saying everything that goes a minute without vocals is instrumental and instrumentals are not music is close-minded.
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Posted: June 05 2010 at 22:54 |
DT-PT wrote:
I am 15 years old myself, and I've noticed every band all of those I know like are either on the radio all the time or its some screamo band that everyone has heard of. I've noticed no one ever goes beyond these things or expand their horizons. They sit there listening to the same stuff and never think to check out anything.
Also, you try to introduce them to prog. If it's over 5 minutes, I often get complaints of it being incredibly long and get asked how I can possibly listen to something that long. Then they don't even give it a chance. The rare times they DO give it a chance, if the first minute has no lyrics, they complain that the whole thing is instrumental and say that a song without vocals is not music. What is that supposed to mean?
What are your guys' thoughts?
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Doesn't sound any different than teenagers of any generation. Prog pushed through to the mainstream in the 70's because, for a short time, it aligned with the post-hippie marijuana/LSD culture that was popular at the time. But, it could also be that you're just hanging out with the wrong crowd. ;-) I usually found that the "metal" crowd in high school tended to be the most open-minded about music, and on many other levels as well.
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