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Yorkie X 
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 08:22 |
 worst poll ever ...
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 08:24 |
Over-rated at 27. I've got it at 36.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 08:25 |
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I don't like Supertramp so its easy for me. And even if I did I would find it too high considering its much higher than many genuine Prog albums.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 09:23 |
Crime of the Century is basically the most amazing album ever....
I really don't think it's overrated at all. I would put it in my top 10 favorite albums, but certainly not the top 10 best albums. 27 is the perfect place for it. It's a spectacular work of art with 2 amazing tracks and then whole bunch of good ones. It's a subltle concept album that fits together very well. Also Rick Davies and Roger Hodgson are my heroes.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 10:03 |
You should have one more choice for those of us who think it should be rated higher!
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Yorkie X
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 10:12 |
 TerLJack wrote:
You should have one more choice for those of us who think it should be rated higher!
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I was talking to my ex girl friend on the phone when I constructed the poll and I was getting ear bashed about all the things I did wrong when we were together had my concetration been better I probably would have come up with something better 
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 10:37 |
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Good album, in parts amazing.
But not in my top 40, so a bit overrated.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 11:26 |
There is no poll choice that expresses my feelings. It wouldn't make my top 40 prog or otherwise albums, but that's by the way. I don't think others have overrated it just because it's not amongst my faves (at one time it was one of my favourite rock albums). I think it's a very good album, but I don't really think of it as "prog proper" (prog-related at the very least, yes), which is why, personally for a list of Prog albums, I don't "feel" that it should be ranked high (I won't say that I feel it shouldn't be listed at all despite my feelings towards its Progitude). Prog is, to a large extent, in the ear of the behearer, and I won't say that people shouldn't rate it highly just because it's not that prog (full-blown prog) to me. For me it's an art rock album, and although art rock can be synonymous with prog, it means something rather different to me despite overlap. But different prog measures for different prog listeners (my prog definitions are rather malleable, and tend to be on the inclusive side). Anyway, it was a very important album to me at one time, and I really do think it very accomplished. Not sure how I'd rate it myself. I'd probably give it four stars even if I don't consider it to be an "Excellent addition to any prog rock music collection", but then what is, even if it is prog? I do consider it to be a pretty essential album for most any rounded classic rock album collection. If the top 100 meant 100 of the most representative prog albums, I wouldn't think it should be there, but since it's just a popularity list.... Personally, I don't give such popularity lists much credence. Sorry for being so serious when it comes to a not-so-serious topic. lol@me Late edit for a ton of typos -- I'm getting really sloppy.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 12:22 |
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I do not like this album. It would not normally be a problem for me if it wasn't so highly regarded, especially on a prog site.
Supertramp to me is like Ayreon to a lot of other people--nowhere near a top 100.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 13:07 |
TerLJack wrote:
You should have one more choice for those of us who think it should be rated higher!
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Exactly. At one point Crime of the Century was in the Top-10 for a while (so was Wishbone Ash's 'Argus' for that matter). In both cases they are brilliant albums that deserve the recognition IMHO.
Whether they are 'prog enough' or not is really a moot point - their association to progressive music is well enough established that all but the most dogmatic of listeners at least think they're prog.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 13:12 |
I wouldn't put it that high in my list, but it is a good album, and I think it's good for the variety of the list that it's that high: Supertramp are a bit on the edge of prog, but they have an original sound and they made some good albums, from which I think Crime Of The Century may be their best.
For me it's good where it is, on the list.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 13:12 |
It's an exceptional album and one of the most important works of the 1970's. I loved it when I first heard it and still do now. 
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Logan
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 13:31 |
ClemofNazareth wrote:
TerLJack wrote:
You should have one more choice for those of us who think it should be rated higher!
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Exactly. At one point Crime of the Century was in the Top-10 for a while (so was Wishbone Ash's 'Argus' for that matter). In both cases they are brilliant albums that deserve the recognition IMHO.
Whether they are 'prog enough' or not is really a moot point - their association to progressive music is well enough established that all but the most dogmatic of listeners at least think they're prog.
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I haven't thought of myself as one of the most dogmatic listeners, and
yet I don't think of Supertramp as Prog (though I'd likely be apt to describe
some of their music that way to some people, and do attribute various prog traits to
their music). I do associate the band with the Prog movement, but it's more proggy than prog for me. It's not that I think others are wrong and I'm right. Prog can be a nebulous construct. I don't have a problem with it in a prog category, cause I think it has enough in common with progressive rock acts for it, but I still don't think of Supertramp as Prog-proper. I think of it as Art Rock and Classic Rock. Nomencalture is a funny old game though, and different people have different biases/ look for, or hear different qualities, and make differet associations. Some music that I think of as Prog (in a greater sense of the word) and suitable for the archives, others dismiss as unsuitable and non-Prog (which is a stronger statement than somewhat prog etc.). And others that I think are Prog Related others say have nothing to with Prog (I'm very inclusive when it comes to "related"). My pathetic haypenny. 
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 14:54 |
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 15:48 |
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I think Crime of the Century is a pretty good album, but 27 is very high... way too high I think.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 16:23 |
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I like the album, it's one of their best, but I wouldn't put it at 27 on my top 100 list. I'm not sure if it would even make the list. As to being overrated - reviewers rate it as they see fit, and I am not one to decry what they say, even if I disgree. Didn't vote.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 16:32 |
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I would probably place it higher.
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 16:53 |
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No, not even top 100
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 17:53 |
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I one Supertramp record should be part of the PA top 100 it would be 'Crisis, what crisis?". Ít's still a total mistery why Crime of the Century is so highly regarded. It's a kind of pop album..
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Posted: June 30 2009 at 18:33 |
Honestly, there are songs on it I remember from airplay, so certainly pop from that standpoint, but I picked up a copy of it last year and found it reasonably prog. I haven't had a Crisis yet...
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 30 2009 at 18:35
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