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Peter
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Topic: Civility Posted: April 10 2004 at 15:20 |
Civility. It seems to be increasingly rare in the wider world, and here on the Forums.
We all cross the line sometimes, and I'm no exception. Thus, when you post, the " " Emoticon, and words like "Just kidding. No offense meant" it can go a long way toward sparing the feelings of others.
I listened to Floyd's DARK SIDE in its entirety today (first time in a long time), and these lines in particular, from the lovely "Us and Them," resonated with me:
"Up and down. And in the end, it's only round and round. Haven't you heard? It's a battle of words," the poster bearer cried. Listen son, said the man with the gun, there's room for you inside.... Out of the way, it's a busy day -- I've got things on my mind. For want of the price, of tea and a slice, the old man died."
So, let's all think before we post, remember that there's Private Messenger for comments and observations of a more personal nature (or just for dirty jokes, right Dude? ), and bear in mind, before you smugly condemn that which others hold dear, that anyone can destroy, but that it is much harder (and deserving of respect) to create.
Think of the human being behind the words or work, not just of the words or the work. Be careful what you sign your name to.
Thanks! I needed to say that!
Keep proggin,' Keep a sense of humour, and don't be too quick to forcefully put down the things that your fellows hold dear. Debate is necessary and good, but please, keep it CIVIL! 
Edited by Peter Rideout
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Stormcrow
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Posted: April 10 2004 at 15:39 |
Well said Peter.
The level of civility has really fallen the last two weeks. Not to mention the level of the intelligence of the conversations in some threads.
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Posted: April 10 2004 at 21:44 |
I FEEL SOMEWHAT HUMBLED    ....WELL SAID!!!
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Posted: April 11 2004 at 05:52 |
Stormcrow wrote:
Well said Peter.
The level of civility has really fallen the last two weeks. Not to mention the level of the intelligence of the conversations in some threads.
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It's a shame that I don't practice a good english or that you don't speak french cause I would to have a real conversations with you...without misunderstoods!!
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richardh
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Posted: April 11 2004 at 06:40 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Our only female Forum member has been notably absent, of late. Could her staying away be connected with the fact that a nameless certain someone said that her influential former band (for which she was the singer, and her husband the drummer) was the "most over-rated band in prog?" Not too kind, eh?
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Blimey!!! Are you talking about Sonja Kristina (hubbie Stuart Copeland,band Curved Air) ?????
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Posted: April 11 2004 at 13:48 |
richardh wrote:
Peter Rideout wrote:
Our only female Forum member has been notably absent, of late. Could her staying away be connected with the fact that a nameless certain someone said that her influential former band (for which she was the singer, and her husband the drummer) was the "most over-rated band in prog?" Not too kind, eh?
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Blimey!!! Are you talking about Sonja Kristina (hubbie Stuart Copeland,band Curved Air) ?????
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No.
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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richardh
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Posted: April 11 2004 at 18:46 |
That doesn't leave too many options then.Renaissance maybe?? Otherwise I'm stumped.
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Glass-Prison
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Posted: April 11 2004 at 21:52 |
I thought he made it clear who it was. anyway, be nice to the ladies, they're always nice company  . (note the use of J/K emoticon....does not count as sexual reference)
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Posted: April 12 2004 at 03:02 |
Glass-Prison wrote:
I thought he made it clear who it was. anyway, be nice to the ladies, they're always nice company . (note the use of J/K emoticon....does not count as sexual reference) |
I can't see a name in the thread.I guess Annie Haslam then!
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Peter
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Posted: April 12 2004 at 07:20 |
richardh wrote:
Glass-Prison wrote:
I thought he made it clear who it was. anyway, be nice to the ladies, they're always nice company . (note the use of J/K emoticon....does not count as sexual reference) |
I can't see a name in the thread.I guess Annie Haslam then!
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Hint: Pink for girls, blue for boys....
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: April 12 2004 at 14:01 |
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Peter
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Posted: April 12 2004 at 17:42 |
I think that the overall tone has improved in the past couple of days!
Hint to the select few (you know who you are): If your own writing is so grammatically-correct and error-free (no, mine isn't -- love that edit button! ) that you simply MUST publicly correct another's spelling, don't! Do so in a kindly, helpful manner via a Private Message.
When you publicly chide another for spelling errors, you are BEGGING to have your own oversights (we all make mistakes here) pointed out! This is a prog forum, not a spelling bee!
Peter Out
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: April 12 2004 at 17:53 |
Okay Peter, we got the point.
Damn him. He thinks he's our dad or something. Cheesy goose fart!!! We should cook his Canadian bacon. Probably thinks John Candy is the messiah, butternut. we'll show him, we will. gollum golllum....

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Peter
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Posted: April 12 2004 at 18:00 |
Thanks Danbo! Enough said, I hope....
Your cool Smiley is right on target!
How's your aim?
Ha, I say, ha! (Just read your fine print.)
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"And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy.
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 02:55 |
If anyone needs an example of what Peter is railing against, you need go no further than the thread on 'Graphic Equalisers'......
Peter, I take my hat off to you for saying that which (I believe) many of us have been thinking & exchanging private e-mails about recently.
Tauhd - I hope you still read this forum & realise that a majority of us are able to express opinions without being self-opinionated (an increasingly rare trait), and your current (temporary, I hope) absence is mourned.
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 05:08 |
Peter Rideout wrote:
Civility. It seems to be increasingly rare in the wider world, and here on the Forums. As I hold the door for teens and twenty-somethings who brush past me without a "thank you," as young college students approach me at my desk in the ubiquitous ball cap, plus sunglasses, and as I make my way into my place of work, through an entrance choked with spitting smokers, who throw their discarded butts all over the ground, until the entrance looks like one big, smelly ashtray (despite the clearly-posted "No smoking at this location" sign, and the provision of designated smoking areas nearby), I wonder what sort of future we're heading for.
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Our only female Forum member has been notably absent, of late. Could her staying away be connected with the fact that a nameless certain someone said that her influential former band (for which she was the singer, and her husband the drummer) was the "most over-rated band in prog?" Not too kind, eh?
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Please come back, Tauhd! We sometimes thoughtless males need your moderating, softening, and balancing female influence here!
Thanks! I needed to say that!
Keep proggin,' Keep a sense of humour, and don't be too quick to forcefully put down the things that your fellows hold dear. Debate is necessary and good, but keep it CIVIL! 
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You're right about civility! 
But I don't get one thing... in which band was Tauhd?
To Tauhd herself: PLEASE COME BACK!
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Stormcrow
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 09:21 |
Jim Garten wrote:
If anyone needs an example of what Peter is railing against, you need go no further than the thread on 'Graphic Equalisers'......
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Yes Jim, I admit that I turned very UN-civil in that thread. I apologize to the group.
But at the same time you have to admit that I was getting seriously trolled by someone who had no idea what he was talking about. At least I didn't threaten anyone!
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dude
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 09:21 |
YES TAUHD, COME BACK,YOU LEFT ME AT THE ALTER 
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dude
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 09:51 |
AS THE ORIGINATOR OF THE GRAPHIC EQUALISER THREAD AND SOMEONE WHO HAS WORKED IN ELECTRONICS FOR MANY YEARS I FOLLOWED THE THREAD WITH INTEREST(AND SOME SADNESS) AND STAYED OUT OF IT AS MY COMMENTS WOULD HAVE BEEN OF NO HELP. I HOPE WE CAN GET PAST THIS NOW AND CONTINUE WIYH THE FUN STUFF!!!! JUST DRINKING AND FART JOKES FOR ME!! (STORMCROW AND SCAFELL I LOOK FORWARD TO INTERESTING and FRUITFUL EXCHANGES OF a MUSICAL NATURE(AND JOKEY!!!)
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Posted: April 13 2004 at 12:54 |
ok
but what band was Tauhd in?! 
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