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Poll Question: Should Mastodon be considered prog-metal?
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    Posted: August 20 2006 at 17:08
Ok. I've asked this question before, but I really think Mastodon deserve a spot in the archives.
 
Prog credits =
 
1. Concept album (Leviathan revolved around Herman Melville's classic Moby Dick)
 
2. Great musicianship (Guitarists Hines and Kelliher are both amazing. Drummer Brann Dailor is one of the tightest drummers in the metal scene IMO.)
 
3. Diverse influences (Hines inserts a lot of country guitar into Mastodon's riffs. Kelliher is also a huge punk fan.)
 
Ok now if you don't think that these guys are progressive please go out and give Leviathan a spin.
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I'm still torn on the issue, but here's more evidence for your prog arguments:

4. New album "Blood Mountain" is also a concept album

5. Drummer Brann Dailor has cited Phil Collins as a major influence on his drumming and the band members are all big fans of classic prog rock.
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I've just been listening to tracks off their new recording and was about to head on the 'Mastodon are prog' crusade.  The guitar work (and vocals) in Capillarian Crest are certainly outside the basic metal genre.
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Originally posted by King of Loss King of Loss wrote:

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"Mastodon sucks giant monkey balls."
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Yup, two concept albums they have a song or two over 10 minutes. They have some odd time signatures and weird rythems. Diverse influences, and most importantly they have a unique sound that is innovative.

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I saw them support Slayer in Vegas a in 2004, they were decent, but about as much prog as Slayer are. I love slayer, but they are NOT prog. If doing a concept album is all it takes then Iron Maiden should have been in the archives from day one.
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Leviathan and Blood Mountain are concept albums. Their drummer plays way more intricate stuff than average metal drummers. etc. etc.
 
Mastodon is a progressive band.


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I think after Blood Mountain comes out, the team will be in favor of their addition. I've only heard the two songs on their site, but man, they were darn good, Capilarian Crest especially.
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No, I just think they're an alright metal band.
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Yes, did anyone happen to catch their comments about Dream Theatre in their interview in the newest Guitar World? I was laughing my ass off, they completely made a laughing stock out of them but then went on to praise several other prog bands such as Rush.
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Originally posted by Matt Dickens Matt Dickens wrote:

Yes, did anyone happen to catch their comments about Dream Theatre in their interview in the newest Guitar World? I was laughing my ass off, they completely made a laughing stock out of them but then went on to praise several other prog bands such as Rush.


What did they say about DT?


I think they qualify for the fact they use odd time signatures and non-formal song structures.
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I've said it in two other threads: Leviathan was borderline at least, and Blood Mountain places them squarely under prog. They just aren't "traditional" prog metal.

(And they're sure as hell as prog as many other "prog metal" bands here.)


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I'm not arguing their progness, I just can't stand 'em. It sounds like a bunch of noise


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Yeah, I think they're pretty progressive. They definitely approach their music that way. One of Brann Dailor's favorite albums is The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway.
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Originally posted by PorcupineKing PorcupineKing wrote:


What did they say about DT?


I think they qualify for the fact they use odd time signatures and non-formal song structures.
 
Oh, man. I almost died reading. Here, I'll write it out, because I'm very bored.
 
GW Let me posit something: You guys definitely have prog elements to your sound, and yet you're exciting and valid--you're cool. Why do you think you're cooler than a band like, say, Dream Theater?
 
HINDS Because we don't have a little Chinese girl playing bass! [laughs]
 
GW Yikes!
 
HINDS And they dress all gay, too. I mean, look at them: they wear those cheesy leather pants. The lead singer especially: he's got that really gay thing going on with his hair. Plus, he sings like a f***ing opera singer and s***. Their hair, their clothes, their music... They're gay.
 
GW Now, wait a second. Are you calling Dream Theater a Brokeback band? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
 
HINDS No, I don't mean "gay" like that. I just mean...gay. [laughs]
 
 
And there you have it.
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I think Mastodon are a prog band, songs like Tribolite on Remission, Hearts Alive on Levithian and Sleeping Giant and Pedolous Skin on their latest album are very much prog songs. Also they have concept albums and even concepts with their 3 albums together. Remission is the Fire album, Levithian water and Blood Mountain Stone.
 
Also they have solos and extended solo-sections, weird time-signatures, jazzy drumming and more progthings.
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^Is Pendulous Skin a 22-minute song, or is it shorter with a bonus bit at the end?
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I don't see how anyone could say they aren't. The best way to decide, for me at least, if a band is progressive, is to listen to their discography and see what you think. There's a very obvious jump in musicalisty and technical ability from their 1st album (Call of the Mastodon) to their 2nd (Remission,) and an even larger leap from Remission to Leviathan.  And if what I've heard is correct, Blood Mountian looks to be another leap from that.  So I don't see how they aren't in th archives as of yet.
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Originally posted by heyitsthatguy heyitsthatguy wrote:

I'm not arguing their progness, I just can't stand 'em. It sounds like a bunch of noise


That's sludge metal, dude!
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