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video vertigo ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: September 17 2004 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1930 |
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Friday night I read my local paper and in the concert section was a 1 page article describing a band called Coheed and Cambria and prog-rock. It described that the band was playing here locally and what progressive rock music is and why Coheed and Cambria are exactly that.
So now the band claims to be prog, their fans claim they are prog, many members of this site agree, they release concept albums, and fit the description given by this website of prog-rock, and news journalists claim they are prog. But still this site cannot add them to the page. progarchives.com, your ultimate prog resource but it includes bands that most don't regard as prog and doesn't include bands that are clearly prog. |
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"The rock and roll business is pretty absurd, but the world of serious music is much worse." - Zappa
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GFoyle ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 06 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 199 |
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Yeah, it's strange. Maybe it's because nobody has been willing to write them
a description and info about the band? |
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Logos ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2383 |
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I find it pretty strange too!
![]() C&C : Great band, art rock. |
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horza ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2005 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 2530 |
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coheed and cambria - prog and excellent
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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21594 |
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Agreed. I'm sure they will be accepted ... only someone needs submit them for addition.
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GoldenSpiral ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: May 27 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 3839 |
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After months of internal debate about this band, I finally figured out
why simultaneously I love and hate them. They are a progressive
rock band. They write solid, entertaining songs. However, I
think they incorporate all of the lame, embarrassing, excessive parts
of prog (i.e. extremely high vocals, disgustingly long song/album
titles, and a general flair for the bombastic), and few of the real
progressive elements. Also, I can't really decide if they take
themselves seriously or not. By reading the comics and listening
to the albums alone, you might think they are actually serious about
their music, but watching their music videos and live shows, you might
think otherwise.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21594 |
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IMO "taking themselves seriously" is a very important thing ... I think that Cradle of Filth's music is progressive, but they're not taking music seriously enough. I think that C&C are genuine artists though ... intuitively, after listening to the samples. |
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Logos ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2383 |
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They were already turned down once. |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21594 |
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Those were different times ... a lot has changed since then (The Band Admissions Team was not yet in place). |
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goose ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 20 2004 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 4097 |
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I don't know, I think it's entirely possible to take not taking yourself seriously seriously... if that means anything ![]() |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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Jean and I have been to their website and listened to the examples there. Unless someone comes up with something better, we say "no thanks". Not prog at all.
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Logos ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: March 08 2005 Location: Finland Status: Offline Points: 2383 |
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They should be added ASAP then! ![]() |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21594 |
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Is this based on your personal taste or on the definition of prog that this website uses? I remember you having extreme difficulties with Rush and Devin Townsend as well. |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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It has nothing to do with personal taste; actually we like the music. But it isn't prog. If there is any prog in Coheed and Cambria, it is there in homoeopathic doses. You can of course suggest a new category named "homoeo-prog", and they woiuld fit very well there.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21594 |
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You're evading the question. Are they more or less progressive than Devin Townsend? |
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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about the same level, I'd say. If this is basis for inclusion, fine seriously though: please point out the progressive elements in either C&C or Townsend Edited by BaldJean |
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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Jean was faster than I. I agree with her. It is hard to tell though with prog that exists in such homoeopatic doses.
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BaldJean ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: May 28 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10387 |
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the videos on their website are extremely cheesy, by the way, whatever one thinks of the music
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![]() A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Online Points: 21594 |
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Please read my review of Terria or Infinity, I tried really hard to express my thoughts about the albums. Here's a nice review of Terria (in German): http://www.babyblaue-seiten.de/index.php?albumId=4858&co ntent=review&left=grade&grade=9
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BaldFriede ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: June 02 2005 Location: Germany Status: Offline Points: 10266 |
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I had read your review before. I think it is highly interesting what
mental images music creates within people; sadly for me the only mental
image "Terria" creates is of me on a long and winding road in the midst
of a heavy thunderstorm (the music on the album), and somewhere in the
distance there is a cottage where i will find shelter (the album's end).
But you may look forward to something: Jean and I have decided that IF (there is a big question mark behind this "if" though) we ever make a 2nd album, it will be a prog-metal one, or at least how WE think prog-metal should be. The album will have the title "Bald Heavy Metal Angels", by the way. |
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