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    Posted: July 25 2004 at 06:13

Firstly, kudos and sincere thanks to all who make this site happen. High quality - ez navitigation, great lay out, comprehensive, self-governing, downloads - best Prog site I've visited.

The following, IMHO, are works of Prog created by artists not listed on this site:

  • BEATLES: "Abbey Road" side 2, 'Tomorrow Never Knows', 'A Day in the life'
  • BOWIE: 'Sweet Thing'/'Candidate'/Sweet Thing (reprise)'/'Rebel Rebel', 'Station to Station'
  • GUNS N' ROSES: 'November Rain'
  • LED ZEPPLIN: 'Kashmir', 'Stairway To Heaven'
  • 10cc: 'Un Nuit A Paris', 'Don't Hang Up', I'm Mandy Fly Me'
  • BRIAN WILSON: 'I Just Wasn't Made For These Times', all of "Smile" (iincl. 'Good Vibrations' - possibly 1st Prog song on Top 40)
  • THE WHO: ' Won't Get Fooled Again" (LP version), much of "Quadrophenia"
  • SIR ELTON: 'Funeral For A Friend/Love Lies Bleeding' (once covered by DREAM THEATER, and please, no gay references!)
  • GOLDEN EARING: 'Radar Love'
  • CHICAGO: 'I'm A Man', '25 Or 6 To 4' (original LP Versions of both)

Which are not Prog? Got any to add to the list? I know some of the above are a real stretch but I'm trying to spark a discussion. No, this isn't a subtle request to include any of these artists on the site (well, maybe 10cc ).



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 07:43

Hello Arbiter,

Here is a compilation of the band you suggested to us to add:

http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=754&am p;PN=1

Remember that NOT all thoses bands will be added ... suggested band will be evaluated first if they deserve a place in the PROGARCHIVES.

 

Best Regards...!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 08:08
no one metioned bohemian rhapsody
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 08:25

Originally posted by Arbiter Arbiter wrote:

SIR ELTON: 'Funeral For A Friend/Love Lies Bleeding' (once covered by DREAM THEATER, and please, no gay references!)

I had no idea Dream Theater was gay

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 09:41

GUNS N' ROSES: 'November Rain'

PROG? Are you MAD??? Confused My god, if you think a string section and 11 minutes of repetitious dreary, pretentious and above all corny "please take us seriously" style rock ballad warbling is prog, then you are sadly mistaken, my friend.

This piece of sh*t is cringeworthy from the "aren't we cultured" grand piano opening to the turgid, clumsy and howlingly predictable coda.

Sorry if this upsets anyone, but come on! The song totally parodies its own genre, yet G'n'R, and it seems, their fans, are utterly oblivious to the humour, which makes them fair game for ridicule in my book. 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 09:47

 

A band that would be out of place in Prog Archives, but certainly was influenced to a certain degree by 70s art rock and melodic symph prog was ULTRAVOX, specially during the Midge Ure era, which was teh time when keyboardist/violinist Billy Currie assumed the leading role for the band's musical direction. A fair deal of tracks from their albums Vienna, Rage in Eden, Quartet and Lament were obviously written under a progressive point of view, though the band per se was not progressive. Later, Billy Currie released an instrumental solo album with Steve Howe as guest: a very beautiful musical work, somewhere between new age and prog.

I think that it was listening to these ellaborated pop bands that led me eventually to becoming a prog head.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 09:53

 

And what about OMD? Even though the J.M. Jarre, Kraftwerk and Neu thing were their most notable influences, there were some tracks (specially instrumental tracks) in their first four albums (their namesake debut, Organisation, their master opus Architecture & Morality, and Dazzle Ship) that were clearly inspired by the darkest and most deconstructive side of krautrock (Faust, pre-Phaedra TD, Cluster, the aethereal side or ART).

The Duran Duran offshoot Arcadia displayed a lot of Pink Floyd, Tangerine Dream and King Crimson touches amongst their avant-garde techno-pop-funky sound. But again, DD's keyboardsman created some good semi-prog keyboard ambiences in some tracks from DD's first 3 albums (The Chauffeur, Tiger Tiger, The Seventh Stranger would have made a great PF ballad "in a parallel universe").

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 12:53

Lone Star - A Million Stars

Lone Star - She Said,She Said

Lone Star - The Bells Of Berlin

Be Bop Deluxe - Between The Worlds

Be Bop Deluxe - Blazing Apostles

E L O - From The Sun To The World

Iron Maiden - Rime Of The Ancient Mariner

Propaganda - Dream Within A Dream

Wings - Band On The Run

Rainbow - Gates Of Babylon

Rainbow - Stargazer

Radiohead - Paranoid Android

Mountain - Nantucket Sleighride (to Owens Coffin)

Muse - Stockholm Syndrome

Mansun - Cancer

Jon And Vangelis - Play Within A Play

Al Stewart - Nostradamus Parts 1 & 2 (live)

 

                  

 

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 12:57
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no one metioned bohemian rhapsody


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 14:53
nofx - the decline

come on, it's an 18 minute punk song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:33

David Sancious : "Just as I thought" and "True stories".

Gordon Giltrap : "Peacock party", "Visionary"

"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:44
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:56

Originally posted by Arbiter Arbiter wrote:

I had no idea Dream Theater was gay

Hopefully their wives don't frequent this site!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:58
Originally posted by emdiar emdiar wrote:

GUNS N' ROSES: 'November Rain'

PROG? Are you MAD??? Confused ...this piece of sh*t is cringeworthy from the "aren't we cultured" grand piano opening to the turgid, clumsy and howlingly predictable coda...sorry if this upsets anyone, but come on! The song totally parodies its own genre, yet G'n'R, and it seems, their fans, are utterly oblivious to the humour, which makes them fair game for ridicule in my book. 

Now c'mon, don't hold back...tell us how you really feel!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:01

Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

A band that would be out of place in Prog Archives, but certainly was influenced to a certain degree by 70s art rock and melodic symph prog was ULTRAVOX, specially during the Midge Ure era, which was teh time when keyboardist/violinist Billy Currie assumed the leading role for the band's musical direction. ... somewhere between new age and prog.

 

Visage would also fall into similar category.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:02
To Arbiter : change your avatar, please, Diddy has the same.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:04

Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

And what about OMD?...there were some tracks (specially instrumental tracks) in their first four albums...clearly inspired by the darkest and most deconstructive side of krautrock (Faust, pre-Phaedra TD, Cluster, the aethereal side or ART).

How 'bout 'The Hurting' by TEARS FOR FEARS?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:08

If we are talking about OMD then Tubeway Army 'Are Friends Electric' is definetly prog!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:13
By the way, my apologies to threefates...I couldn't figure out a way to get ELP on the list...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:23

ELO not being here explains a lot...

 

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