Prog from artists not on this site
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Category: Progressive Music Lounges
Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: Prog from artists not on this site
Posted By: Arbiter
Subject: Prog from artists not on this site
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 06:13
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Firstly, kudos and sincere thanks to all who make this site happen. High quality - ez navitigation, great lay out, comprehensive, self-governing, downloads - best Prog site I've visited. The following, IMHO, are works of Prog created by artists not listed on this site:
Which are not Prog? Got any to add to the list? I know some of the above are a real stretch but I'm trying to spark a discussion. No, this isn't a subtle request to include any of these artists on the site (well, maybe 10cc ------------- "Some things have to be believed to be seen." -Ralph Hodgson |
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Posted By: ProgLucky
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 07:43
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Hello Arbiter, Here is a compilation of the band you suggested to us to add: Remember that NOT all thoses bands will be added ... suggested band will be evaluated first if they deserve a place in the PROGARCHIVES.
Best Regards...! ProgLucky by ProgArchives.com |
Posted By: 5 minute solo
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 08:08
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no one metioned bohemian rhapsody ------------- You want the spoon? You can't handle the spoon! |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 08:25
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I had no idea Dream Theater was gay ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Arbiter wrote:Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 09:41
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GUNS N' ROSES: 'November Rain' PROG? Are you MAD??? This piece of sh*t is cringeworthy from the "aren't we cultured" grand piano opening to the turgid, clumsy and howlingly predictable coda. Sorry if this upsets anyone, but come on! The song totally parodies its own genre, yet G'n'R, and it seems, their fans, are utterly oblivious to the humour, which makes them fair game for ridicule in my book. ------------- Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact. |
My god, if you think a string section and 11 minutes of repetitious dreary, pretentious and above all corny "please take us seriously" style rock ballad warbling is prog, then you are sadly mistaken, my friend.Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 09:47
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A band that would be out of place in Prog Archives, but certainly was influenced to a certain degree by 70s art rock and melodic symph prog was ULTRAVOX, specially during the Midge Ure era, which was teh time when keyboardist/violinist Billy Currie assumed the leading role for the band's musical direction. A fair deal of tracks from their albums Vienna, Rage in Eden, Quartet and Lament were obviously written under a progressive point of view, though the band per se was not progressive. Later, Billy Currie released an instrumental solo album with Steve Howe as guest: a very beautiful musical work, somewhere between new age and prog. I think that it was listening to these ellaborated pop bands that led me eventually to becoming a prog head. Regards. |
Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 09:53
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And what about OMD? Even though the J.M. Jarre, Kraftwerk and Neu thing were their most notable influences, there were some tracks (specially instrumental tracks) in their first four albums (their namesake debut, Organisation, their master opus Architecture & Morality, and Dazzle Ship) that were clearly inspired by the darkest and most deconstructive side of krautrock (Faust, pre-Phaedra TD, Cluster, the aethereal side or ART). The Duran Duran offshoot Arcadia displayed a lot of Pink Floyd, Tangerine Dream and King Crimson touches amongst their avant-garde techno-pop-funky sound. But again, DD's keyboardsman created some good semi-prog keyboard ambiences in some tracks from DD's first 3 albums (The Chauffeur, Tiger Tiger, The Seventh Stranger would have made a great PF ballad "in a parallel universe"). Regards. |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 12:53
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Lone Star - A Million Stars Lone Star - She Said,She Said Lone Star - The Bells Of Berlin Be Bop Deluxe - Between The Worlds Be Bop Deluxe - Blazing Apostles E L O - From The Sun To The World Iron Maiden - Rime Of The Ancient Mariner Propaganda - Dream Within A Dream Wings - Band On The Run Rainbow - Gates Of Babylon Rainbow - Stargazer Radiohead - Paranoid Android Mountain - Nantucket Sleighride (to Owens Coffin) Muse - Stockholm Syndrome Mansun - Cancer Jon And Vangelis - Play Within A Play Al Stewart - Nostradamus Parts 1 & 2 (live)
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 12:57
I don't, out of principle |
Posted By: asuma
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 14:53
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nofx - the decline
come on, it's an 18 minute punk song. ------------- *Remember all advice given by Asuma is for entertainment purposes only. Asuma is not a licensed medical doctor, psychologist, or counselor and he does not play one on TV.* |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:33
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David Sancious : "Just as I thought" and "True stories". Gordon Giltrap : "Peacock party", "Visionary" ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:44
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Lucia Pamela - Into Outer Space with Lucia Pamela ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Arbiter
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:56
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Hopefully their wives don't frequent this site! ------------- "Some things have to be believed to be seen." -Ralph Hodgson |
Posted By: Arbiter
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 17:58
Now c'mon, don't hold back...tell us how you really feel! ------------- "Some things have to be believed to be seen." -Ralph Hodgson |
Posted By: Arbiter
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:01
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Visage would also fall into similar category. ------------- "Some things have to be believed to be seen." -Ralph Hodgson |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:02
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To Arbiter : change your avatar, please, Diddy has the same. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Arbiter
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:04
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How 'bout 'The Hurting' by TEARS FOR FEARS? ------------- "Some things have to be believed to be seen." -Ralph Hodgson |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:08
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If we are talking about OMD then Tubeway Army 'Are Friends Electric' is definetly prog! |
Posted By: Arbiter
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:13
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By the way, my apologies to threefates...I couldn't figure out a way to get ELP on the list... ------------- "Some things have to be believed to be seen." -Ralph Hodgson |
Posted By: The Prognaut
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 18:23
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ELO not being here explains a lot...
------------- break the circle reset my head wake the sleepwalker and i'll wake the dead |
Posted By: ProgRocker
Date Posted: July 25 2004 at 21:29
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I don't know if any of you have heard of this band, but Crack The Sky was very progressive in their early years. I'd say pretty much anything off their first 3 albums(and live album) is progressive, to some degree. Now after that, that's a different story! |
Still good music, though.Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 05:59
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What do you mean? |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 05:59
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prog isn't only about length, you know |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 10:45
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 11:05
 Danbo, so predictable....
Someone mentioned 'Bohemian Rhapsody' earlier in the thread; I think 'The Prophet Song' from the same album is far more progressive (and tragically, far less heard) ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 18:40
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The Cardiacs, anyone?
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: July 26 2004 at 18:42
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Posted By: emdiar
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 04:37
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This is very true, and it should be mentioned that the transition from "the Prophet Song" to the next track, "Love of my Life" is so expertly done as to be seamless. Very impressive composition skills. As I've said before, Queen deserve an "honorary" place in progdom, if not a full blown club membership, which they may be too "style flexible" to hold in the eyes of some. ------------- Perception is truth, ergo opinion is fact. |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 04:53
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I agree- I think of "Queen 2" as a classic hard prog album ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: 5 minute solo
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 15:32
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master of puppets by mettalica is kinda progish...please don't hurt me ------------- You want the spoon? You can't handle the spoon! |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 15:44
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Even though I can't stand to listen to the band anymore, I agree...but I think "And Justice for All" is even more progressive, with increased song length and compositional development, tight meter changes and melodic soloing, neo-classical arrangements and narrative lyrics. It might even be called a concept album.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 19:30
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I don't think that's progressive |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 19:30
Ik ken maar een paar nummers. (To go off and things is er een). Wat kun je me aanraden? (kan ook via PM) |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 22:21
The Decline also has numerous different sections and rapid changes in time signature and melody. Granted, it doesn't have terribly complex instrumentation, but there are without question very noticeable elements of prog. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: July 27 2004 at 22:23
Metallica's new stuff is horrible, but around the Master of Puppets era they were unquestionably flirting with prog. I've long considered ...And Justice For All a prog metal album, and Master of Puppets has some prog elements as well, especially on the instrumental "Orion". |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 28 2004 at 08:21
| Come to think of it: When Newsted left Metallica, he joined prog metal group Voivod! |
Posted By: Minstrel X
Date Posted: July 28 2004 at 12:14
That song is Radiohead's Ultimate Prog moment, and the video made the song more memorable. They Earned the "Art Rock" Category with this one. In the Other hand "Kid A" (the song) sounds kinda progish too.
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Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: July 28 2004 at 17:58
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And Voivod released their most straightforward cd since 'the old days'. At the time of 'Justice' , 'tallica was much inspired by WatchTower, inspiring them to compose longer, more complex songs. I don't consider this 'prog', it was nothing new, nothing really jawdropping, just a Metalband trying to break away from formal metal structures with only some slight succes. If Metallica is 'prog' then so are Mercyful Fate, Celtic Frost, Iron Maiden and so on. Voivod, however, is/was PROGRESSIVE. They looked beyond the borders of that what's called metal and used these outsider elements to create new sounds.
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: July 28 2004 at 18:54
I have never heard Voivod, but Mercyful Fate (for me) is one of those bands, that's on the edge of prog. Great metal! |
Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: July 28 2004 at 19:56
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Definitely check out "Nothingface" or "Angel Rat"...the same kind of chilly post-apocalyptic metal sound as "And Justice for All" but with more progressive tendencies. They do interesting covers of Pink Floyd's "Astronomy Domine" and "The Nile Song" too. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi">
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: August 23 2004 at 11:07
| There are some bands on the site which aren`t even prog such as the Mahavishnu Orchestra who are the kings of fusion jazz. I would like to see Babe Ruth included in the archives myself.And when is Max going to add Mariah? |
Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: September 13 2004 at 17:31
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ESTRADASPHERE!!!
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: September 13 2004 at 19:40
Haven't we been this way before: MO were deemed as prog when they first appeared on the scene - rock fused with jazz (Nice fused rock with jazz but in their own different way). Anyway Babe Ruth did a great jazz rock/prog rock cover with Zappa's King Kong - saw them do it live around 1973 or 4 and it's on First Base their first album. |
Posted By: ponter
Date Posted: September 14 2004 at 01:14
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Anybody else ever listened to Terraced Garden? I believe available only on vinyl. I haven't seen any reference to them. Like 'em? Hate 'em? Opinions anybody? ------------- shake your head as the world just nods away... |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: September 14 2004 at 22:02
| With all the crazy bands you listed as prog I will throw out Violent Femmes as one. C'mon Never Tell is prog and no one....including Gentle Giant played more intruments than these guys...their 2nd album Hallowed Ground is exceptional |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 20:26
| Underture from Tommy, and A Quick One While He's Away, both by the Who. |
Posted By: Damen
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 22:18
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NOFX? Guns N' Roses? That's just f**king blasphemy... ------------- "It's amazing that we've been able to put up with each other for 35 years. Most marriages don't last that long these days." -Chris Squire |
Posted By: DarthBob
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 22:26
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The Process of Weeding Out (the EP) by Black Flag is definitely flirting with
prog even if they are punk band. Entirely insturmental complex, and long. Much of At the Drive-in's stuff also comes close, and is shown even more when it split and two members formed The Mars Volta. And Guns N' Roses? Are you insane? |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: August 07 2005 at 23:12
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Terrapin Station (the song) Help On The Way/Slipknot/Franklin's Tower Weather Report Suite all by The Grateful Dead (of course) |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 14:07
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Allman Brothers Jessica is pretty proggy and, don't laugh too hard, but the intro to I Need a Lover by John Melencamp is kida cool too.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 14:10
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: August 08 2005 at 16:36
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Have you heard it or you just laughing because I said John Melencamp? It is like Elton Johns Funeral for a Friend.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 18:32
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: pero
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 04:38
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Beatles are not prog. Bowie: only Aladin sane, and stuf with Brian Eno and Fripp (Heroes, Low, Lodger) Elton John - ha,ha,ha Who: They are boring
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Posted By: Throgh
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 06:54
what about Pere Ubu? and Public Image Ltd (less )?what about Tuxedomoon? listen listen & listen |