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Chipiron 
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 Topic: Young person’s guide to Prog
Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:56 |
Dear proggers,
I’d like you to help me. I want to record one CD to introduce a friend to Prog music. It should contain accessible but representative and interesting songs to make her feel curiosity and continue exploring. I have thought of some songs:
· School – Supertramp
· Cast a pebble – ELP
· Hocus Pocus – Focus
· Carry on wayward son – Kansas
· Wish you were here – PF
· Time and a word – Yes (from Yessongs)
· Firth of Fifth – Genesis
· Starless – King Crimson …Could you please help me? Thanks! 
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OT Räihälä
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 06:59 |
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Think Of Me With Kindness - Gentle Giant
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:01 |
the residents-Songs for the swinging larvae.
Magma the whole udu wudu album.
Van Der Graaf Generator-A plague of lighthouse keepers.
The Mars Volta-Cassandra gemmini
Gentle giant-Octopus
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yes-roundabout
Jetrho tull-aqualung
porcupine tree-sound of muzak
some dream theater perhaps?
ELP-Hoedown
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:07 |
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Anything NEO-PROG also
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:14 |
Sylvia - Focus
Ripples - Genesis
Dancing with the moonlit knight - Genesis
Turn of the century - Yes
Lucky Man - ELP
Born Brilliant - IQ
Can you understand - Renaisance
Subdivisions - Rush
Pseudo silk Kimono/Kayleigh - Marillion
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pero
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:15 |
Dont introduce him with prog recording Supertramp  Try those:
Supper's ready - Genesis
Expirience - Gentle giant
Roundabout - Yes
Book of saturday KC
Hocus pocus 
Take a peble - ELP
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Phil
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:24 |
 Chipiron wrote:
Dear proggers,
I’d like you to help
me. I want to record one CD to introduce a friend to Prog music. It
should contain accessible but representative and interesting songs to
make her feel curiosity and continue exploring. I have thought of some
songs:
· School – Supertramp
· Cast a pebble – ELP
· Hocus Pocus – Focus
· Carry on wayward son – Kansas
· Wish you were here – PF
· Time and a word – Yes (from Yessongs)
· Firth of Fifth – Genesis
· Starless – King Crimson …Could you please help me? Thanks! |
I would ditch Supertramp altogether and for Yes maybe have "Roundabout"
(suggested elsewhere!) or "Yours is No Disgrace" as a starter.
Mind you your selection is very much toward the symphonic type pf prog.
Could stick a Zappa track in there for variety (says he listening to
Hot Rats at the mo...) - try "Peaches En Regalia" as a shorter tune.
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chopper
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:25 |
Pretty good start, but I'd also skip the Supertramp.
I don't think Time and a Word is on Yessongs, you could go for Roundabout or Perpetual Change.
How about something from Rush Farewell to Kings?
Also you could throw in some recent stuff from IQ, Pendragon, Glass Hammer etc.
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Lindsay Lohan
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:26 |
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The Hemulen
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:32 |
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Some songs that I'd include:
Gentle Giant - Free Hand
Jethro Tull - Songs From The Wood
Van Der Graaf Generator - Undercover Man
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Violenza
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:42 |
If they're a young person, maybe throwing some Porcupine Tree or Mars Volta would be a good idea, as it may not be too far from what they are accustomed to. Throw some new stuff in any way; it may make prog more appealing if the person knows its still alive and well rather than some old fart music that died long ago.
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Blacksword
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 07:57 |
Personally I would avoid 'Hocus Pocus'
I have yet to meet anyone outside the progosphere who thinks that yodelling is in the least bit funny. They think it's ridiculous and that grown men should know better.
I reckon Sylvia or House of the King would be better.
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Chipiron
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 08:02 |
Violenza wrote:
If they're a young person, maybe throwing some Porcupine Tree or Mars Volta would be a good idea, as it may not be too far from what they are accustomed to. Throw some new stuff in any way; it may make prog more appealing if the person knows its still alive and well rather than some old fart music that died long ago.
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Well... let's say we're both 30 - something year old farts 
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Dieu
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 08:25 |
I often make some CD to introduce people to prog, and in my experience, you better make it classic.
When you are into prog like us, you tend to like more complex song or group, like Dancing with the moonlit knight, supper's ready or Roundabout (this one not complex but long).
You better make it safe. Like Long distance runaround, I know what I like, etc. No 20 minutes songs.
And wait for a second CD to introduce Van Der Graaf, and other "pure" prog band. It's not for virgin ears.
Dieu
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rockandrail
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 09:02 |
What God wants, God gets, n'est-ce pas, Dieu?
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rockandrail
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 09:11 |
To fit the subject: I tried to do that and could not on 1 single CD. Too many things. I chose a 5 CDs format following chronological order from pre-prog psychedelia to early neo prog with a mix of Symphonic, Jazz-influenced, Canterbury, "Kraut".... No epics. Just mid size songs.
I am now working on an extensive sort of anthology. I already compiled material for over 30 CDs. It's a nice and funny job to do since it forces to listen carefully, to balance, to compare, to check what fits best next.
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Dieu
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 10:00 |
rockandrail wrote:
What God wants, God gets, n'est-ce pas, Dieu? |
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horza
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 10:03 |
[QUOTE=maidenrulez] the residents-Songs for the swinging larvae.
Magma the whole udu wudu album.
Van Der Graaf Generator-A plague of lighthouse keepers.
The Mars Volta-Cassandra gemmini
Gentle giant-Octopus
good grief we don't want to frighten her off
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Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot.
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BaldJean
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 10:07 |
our kids are 3, and their introduction to prog is "Fairy Tales" by Mother Gong, an album which they absolutely love
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Mnemosyne
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Posted: September 23 2005 at 11:03 |
Jethro TUll- Songs from The Wood
King Crimson- 21st Century Schizoid Man (this song started everything)
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