Are Celtic Frost Progressive Metal?

OMFG! nooooooo!!!!!!!

They are one of the early Thrash Metal bands to have a Black Metal vibe in them.... Of course not!

They're progressive in the sense that they did things that hadn't previously been done in metal, but I wouldn't consider them prog metal at all. This brings up an interesting question that we seem to face a lot around here: if a band is progressive within its own genre, should they be included here at progarchives? The site's definition of prog metal is:

Progressive metal (shortened to prog, or prog metal when differentiating from progressive rock) is a heavy brand of progressive rock which is characterized by the use of complex compositional structures, odd time signatures, and other features.

Its origins can be traced all the way back to traditional progressive rock acts of the 1960s and '70s like Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Genesis and Rush, but progressive metal didn't develop into a genre of its own until the mid-1980s. Acts such as Dream Theater, Queensrÿche and Fates Warning took elements of these progressive rock groups, primarily the instrumentation and compositional structure of songs, and merged them with heavy metal characteristics attributed to bands like Metallica, Megadeth, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden. The result could be described as a progressive rock mentality with heavy metal sounds.

This definition of prog metal isn't really "progressive" at all - it simply says that prog metal bands mix elements of prog rock and metal, which is why we generally think of bands like DT, Queensryche, and FW when we're talking about prog metal. However, if we're using "progressive" in the true sense of the word, then bands like Celtic Frost were indeed progressive because they experimented with new sounds and styles that hadn't been done before. www.metalarchives.ee categorizes Celtic Frost as "Avant Garde Metal," which I think is pretty accurate. They were progressive and experimental within the realm of metal, but certainly not in the traditional progressive rock sense.

Should they be included here? I say no, simply because their sound and style does not comply with this site's defintion of "progressive metal."Were they progressive? Most definitely.

King of Loss wrote: OMFG! nooooooo!!!!!!!

I agree

Hang on, was it CF that did that track called something like Tristesses de la Lune? That was pretty adventrous for metal, for sure.

Not prog!!!!! and if I remember well , they are closely related to neo-nazi influences!

I don't see where the idea of them being prog came from either.