Are Celtic Frost Progressive Metal?
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Topic: Are Celtic Frost Progressive Metal?
Posted By: lordoflight
Subject: Are Celtic Frost Progressive Metal?
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 11:48
| Has anyone heard the album Into the Pandemonium by Celtic Frost? Do you agree that they should be on this website? |
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Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 11:56
| OMFG! nooooooo!!!!!!! |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 11:58
Stop beating about the bush! DO YOU THINK THEY'RE PROG, KoL? |
King of Loss wrote:Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 12:00
They are one of the early Thrash Metal bands to have a Black Metal vibe in them.... Of course not! 
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 12:24
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Venom wrote a twenty minute song - they must be prog!
Oddly enough, I was introduced to CF as a prog metal band. They're pretty original I guess, but I've no idea where prog comes in...
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 12:29
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They're progressive in the sense that they did things that hadn't
previously been done in metal, but I wouldn't consider them prog metal
at all. This brings up an interesting question that we seem to face a
lot around here: if a band is progressive within its own genre, should
they be included here at progarchives? The site's definition of prog
metal is: Progressive metal (shortened to prog, or prog metal when differentiating from progressive rock) is a heavy brand of progressive rock which is characterized by the use of complex compositional structures, odd time signatures, and other features. Its origins can be traced all the way back to traditional progressive rock acts of the 1960s and '70s like Yes, Pink Floyd, King Crimson, Genesis and Rush, but progressive metal didn't develop into a genre of its own until the mid-1980s. Acts such as Dream Theater, Queensr˙che and Fates Warning took elements of these progressive rock groups, primarily the instrumentation and compositional structure of songs, and merged them with heavy metal characteristics attributed to bands like Metallica, Megadeth, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath and Iron Maiden. The result could be described as a progressive rock mentality with heavy metal sounds. This definition of prog metal isn't really "progressive" at all - it simply says that prog metal bands mix elements of prog rock and metal, which is why we generally think of bands like DT, Queensryche, and FW when we're talking about prog metal. However, if we're using "progressive" in the true sense of the word, then bands like Celtic Frost were indeed progressive because they experimented with new sounds and styles that hadn't been done before. www.metalarchives.ee categorizes Celtic Frost as "Avant Garde Metal," which I think is pretty accurate. They were progressive and experimental within the realm of metal, but certainly not in the traditional progressive rock sense. Should they be included here? I say no, simply because their sound and style does not comply with this site's defintion of "progressive metal."Were they progressive? Most definitely. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/"> 
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 12:29
I would never have regarded them as a prog metal band. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 13:27
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I agree -------------  |
Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: August 27 2005 at 14:52
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Well, they are metal, and they are progressive, albeit not in the way that would get them a place on this site.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/">
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: August 28 2005 at 06:20
| Hang on, was it CF that did that track called something like Tristesses de la Lune? That was pretty adventrous for metal, for sure. |
Posted By: Wolf Spider
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 08:44
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Not prog and never will be
------------- http://www.lastfm.pl/user/tomash33 - Last.fm |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 09:03
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Not prog!!!!! and if I remember well , they are closely related to neo-nazi influences! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Mnemosyne
Date Posted: August 29 2005 at 12:41
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Nah, not them... They're an extreme metal legend, but it doesn't belong to Prog. ------------- I'm a Man-Owl-Fish. Creator-Observer-Muse. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: August 31 2005 at 18:42
| I don't see where the idea of them being prog came from either. |