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Dean
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 10:49 |
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We don't like. Remove the link and I'll unhide the post.
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twseel
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 10:53 |
Sorry, I removed them now.
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frippism
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:02 |
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand just finished listening to the entirety after three days of incredibly demanding and rewarding listening.
Holy sh*t it is good
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:10 |
frippism wrote:
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand just finished listening to the entirety after three days of incredibly demanding and rewarding listening.
Holy sh*t it is good |
I did a full listen this morning and I'm embarking on another one now.
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frippism
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:13 |
cuz of the army I had a bit of a problem doing an entire sit down.
I'd usually just listening to a couple of songs and them just listen to them again and again and let them process for a while, while reading the lyrics (totally printed themmmmmm)
point being I just really really sat on this album unlike I did with any other album in a long time
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HolyMoly
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:15 |
I have to confess the lyrics make no sense to me at all. :o(
Cuz I suck
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frippism
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:19 |
:( Steve they're so deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep
frankly actually I like the lyrics quite a lot :D
they don't necessarily are completely clear, but it's pretty much some poet guy goin' bananas
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HolyMoly
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 14:51 |
They're great lyrics as poetry, I just can't figure out what's supposed to be "going on". Toby said there's some storyline there, I just can't find it in the words.
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Earendil
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 16:22 |
Hey everyone,
I've decided that Hubardo is as good as Choirs of the Eye (10 out of f**king 10), but in a different way. I feel that the two are towering pinnacles of what is musically possible, but because Hubardo is so much more "direct" musically than Choirs, I can't pick a winner.
frippism wrote:
while reading the lyrics (totally printed themmmmmm) |
I got them tattooed to my chest in reverse, so I can read them in the mirror. Just kidding, but I printed them too
HolyMoly wrote:
They're great lyrics as poetry, I just can't figure out what's supposed to be "going on". Toby said there's some storyline there, I just can't find it in the words. |
Yeah some of the specifics are foggy, but I love the subtle advantages of the lyrics being poetry. For example, there's repetition of themes like planting, watering, growing and the fact that it's poetry about a poet.
Also, I looked it up and "Hubardo" means "lamp" or "lantern" in Enochian, and I think the idea is that the poet is being guided throughout the story.
My understanding of it:
The poet finds the meteor that fell, which the townspeople have denounced as evil. The poet thinks it's beautiful and takes it home (all this is covered by songs 1-4). In song 5, Zlida Caosgi, it sounds like he is losing his sh*t, but I think the lyrics deal with the beginning of the "alchemical change" part of the story. What is actually happening though is anyones guess.
Now, from this point on, it would make a lot more sense if everything was metaphorical (or on the astral plane or something... the point of it is that it's the most intimate, introverted, and transcendent space there is, which is the realm of poetry) for the poet's alchemical transformation, as triggered by the meteor. In song 6, he goes to a secluded forest grove, and this is where the rest of the story takes place. In song 7, The Second Operation, is the turning point and key phrase in the transformation process: "Before he learned the poet's truth that life will never yield to Will". At this point, he finds the stream that grew in the grove, builds a boat and floats down the river. In song 10 (Passing the River), I think the boy that is referred to is the poet himself, that he is being "reborn". In the last song, The Wait of the World, he dies.
There's my take on it at this point, and I'd love to hear other interpretations or elaborations.
Edited by Earendil - September 03 2013 at 19:29
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 16:28 |
^Add a little music description to your post and you've got yourself a very nice review
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Earendil
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 16:36 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
^Add a little music description to your post and you've got yourself a very nice review |
Well thank you! I'll get around to it eventually
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 17:12 |
You'll see that track 5's (Zlida Caosgi) lyrics are somewhat related to what is described in the 5th Key of Enoch. __________
The Fifth Key in English
The mighty sounds have entered into The fourth angle and are become As deliverers of Lord Satan's Providence, Bringing forth strength and understanding dwelling In the firmaments as continual comforters; Unto whom I fastened pillars Of gladness 666, and gave them Vessels to water the earth With all her creatures; And they are the sons and Daughters of Satan. Of the first And the second and the beginning Of their own seats which are garnished With continual burning lamps whose numbers Are as the beginning, the ends And the contents of time. Therefore! Come ye and appear to your creation! Visit us in peace and comfort Conclude us receivers of your mysteries, for why? We worship Satan/Lucifer in all his glory, Everlasting!
The Fifth Key in Enochian
Sapahe zodimii du-i-be, od noasa ta qu-a-nis, adarocahe dorepehal caosagi od faonutas peripeso ta-be-liore. Casareme A-me-ipezodi na-zodaretahe AFA; od dalugare zodizodope zodelida caosaji tol-toregi; od zod-cahisa esiasacahe El ta-vi-vau; od iao-d tahilada das hubare PE-O-AL; soba coremefa cahisa ta Ela Vaulasa od Quo-Co-Casabe. Eca niisa od darebesa quo-a-asa: fetahe-ar-ezodi od beliora: ia-ial eda-nasa cicalesa; bagile Ge-iad I-el!
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Jason Byron wrote some really occult stuff.
Also the part of the Satanic Bible which contains the Enochian Keys is called The Book of Leviathan, the creature which is mentioned on the first and last tracks of Hubardo.
Edited by Polo - September 03 2013 at 17:32
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HolyMoly
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 17:15 |
This is evidently going to take a long time to sink in. Good! That's half the fun.
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 17:22 |
In Hubardo, who wrote the lyrics?
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 17:23 |
Earendil wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
^Add a little music description to your post and you've got yourself a very nice review |
Well thank you! I'll get around to it eventually |
I'd like to read that. But only do one if you feel up to it though. No pressure from me - that was not the intent with my post. I just liked what I read, is all
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The Neck Romancer
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 17:29 |
LuKcho wrote:
In Hubardo, who wrote the lyrics? |
Jason Byron.
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pianoman
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 17:59 |
The lyrics are a huge part of this record. For me personally, the lyrics and the music support each other so well, that the record has some special "colorful" quality that few records have yet to achieve for me (Choirs being another one). Not entirely sure how to describe the feeling.
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sleeper
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 18:51 |
I haven't actually touched the lyrics yet, I'm still letting the music sink in. To be honest I rarely bother looking at the lyrics and just take the voice as another instrument, and Toby's is working very well here.
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Earendil
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 19:10 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
Earendil wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
^Add a little music description to your post and you've got yourself a very nice review |
Well thank you! I'll get around to it eventually |
I'd like to read that. But only do one if you feel up to it though. No pressure from me - that was not the intent with my post. I just liked what I read, is all |
Thanks, I truly appreciated the compliment
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Earendil
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Posted: September 03 2013 at 19:13 |
Has anyone else been gauging time based on how much of Hubardo you can blair while your roommate is gone?
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