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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 03:37 |
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.
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Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? are you gonna tell me that Moonchild is original??
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 03:53 |
^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture.
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octopus-4
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 04:37 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.
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Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too??? are you gonna tell me that Moonchild is original??
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Experimenting is just a verb. It has no meaning without an object.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 04:47 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
Your arguments are getting more and more ridiculous. John Cage wannabes? Please.
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Isn't Crimson all about experimentation though, and John Cage experimented too???
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You're funny.
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 06:26 |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 22:48 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture. |
4'33 was done way before when they decide to play as little as possible if not at all
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 22:50 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 22:52 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture. |
I do think Michael Giles playing is interesting but it's the only interesting thing about it not much to warrant it good
Edited by ProgMetaller2112 - January 11 2013 at 22:53
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:00 |
ProgMetaller2112 wrote:
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Name one thing by John Cage that is close to "Moonchild" in texture. | 4'33 was done way before when they decide to play as little as possible if not at all. |
It's not even close. Cage did not have much to say, but the Crims were saying much more than silence.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:12 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:32 |
^ Yes, I completely forgot that it's all about the math. Brilliant deduction! How the bloody f$%k did I not think of that?!
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:36 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ Yes, I completely forgot that it's all about the math. Brilliant deduction! How the bloody f$%k did I not think of that?! |
Its all about math and I guess your attachment to it, whatever
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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Dayvenkirq
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:41 |
^ OK, I'm out of here. I'm just gonna wait till this guy disappears.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:44 |
Dayvenkirq wrote:
^ OK, I'm out of here. I'm just gonna wait till this guy disappears. |
present yourself like a man,please I won't even get hurt by anything you say cuz I know I'm strong but I guess you're not, what I told u was not an insult it's just you're attached to it, is that an insult???no
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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jude111
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Posted: January 11 2013 at 23:46 |
Edited by jude111 - January 11 2013 at 23:48
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N-sz
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 01:16 |
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Edited by N-sz - January 12 2013 at 01:29
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 01:28 |
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 01:36 |
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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HarbouringTheSoul
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 01:45 |
The emoticons and the fact that my statement was completely ludicrous should have given you a hint.
Look: Your argument makes no sense. The fact that John Cage experimented and King Crimson also experimented doesn't make them John Cage ripoffs. And the fact that there are very few notes in "Moonchild" and "4'33''" is completely silent doesn't make the former a ripoff of the latter. And even if that one song were a John Cage ripoff, that wouldn't make the whole band John Cage wannabes.
You don't like King Crimson. That's fine, and we get it. No reason to make ludicrous statements about them.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: January 12 2013 at 02:30 |
HarbouringTheSoul wrote:
The emoticons and the fact that my statement was completely ludicrous should have given you a hint.
Look: Your argument makes no sense. The fact that John Cage experimented and King Crimson also experimented doesn't make them John Cage ripoffs. And the fact that there are very few notes in "Moonchild" and "4'33''" is completely silent doesn't make the former a ripoff of the latter. And even if that one song were a John Cage ripoff, that wouldn't make the whole band John Cage wannabes.
You don't like King Crimson. That's fine, and we get it. No reason to make ludicrous statements about them.
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All I want is to have a say and a perspective and if you think the statements were ludicrous then my bad it's just how I felt/ feel and I didn't want to hold back. Dayvenkirq especially doesn't want to hear anything that I have to say because he thinks I'm slapping him in the face when I'm not, even though I have crossed the line but it hasn't really happened that much I think you should have a talk with him because he thinks that I'm a troll or that I've been "terrorizing the forum" when in reality I've just been somewhat strong on my opinions and have crossed the line(very little though), he went overboard as to saying that I am a terrorist when in reality I'm a fan just like all of you
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“War is peace.
Freedom is slavery.
Ignorance is strength.”
― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four
"Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart
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