3 Prog Rock Giants
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Topic: 3 Prog Rock Giants
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Subject: 3 Prog Rock Giants
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 21:49
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------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
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Posted By: smartpatrol
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 21:52
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1.Genesis 2.KC 3.Yes ------------- http://bit.ly/1kqTR8y" rel="nofollow">  The greatest record label of all time! |
Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 21:54
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smartpatrol wrote:Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 21:55
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1. Pink Floyd
2. Jethro Tull 3. Genesis ------------- |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 22:04
I'm tempted to vote King Crimson just because they weren't on the last poll, but then I would be lying. Besides, define "greatest."  ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Fox On The Rocks
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 22:07
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Lately it's been like this: 1. King Crimson 2. Yes 3. Genesis I guess, I'm growing up?   ------------- 
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 22:09
Who is the greatest of the three, greatest meaning who has everything music, lyrics, concepts, players, instruments ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: oniongold
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 22:12
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1. King Crimson 2. Yes 3. Genesis |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 22:15
what concepts does Crimson have ??lame ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 22:23
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KC ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 23:05
You ask people their opinion and then tell them it is bad Even though this guy puts the bands in their objective correct order |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 23:09
Nothing in music is objective, you just don't get it I just pointed out the facts that Crimson does not have an album with an engaging storyline or concept ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 23:27
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 23:30
This but starting from the bottom...  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 17 2012 at 23:38
Since they all have music, lyrics, concepts, players, and instruments, I declare it a three-way tie!  ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 00:20
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KC; constantly evolving. ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 00:20
This |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 00:49
Who gives a f**k about a concept? Most bands don't have or don't care about concepts. Are they inferior to the bands having concepts? Who needs it when you have such an engaging, innovative ground breaking band, that keeps evolving and reinventing itself and never thought about selling out. It's always been about the music first, that alone is worth a vote. But if you don't think so master ProgMetaller2112, than I'll change my vote right away. Ahhhhh....Genesis right? |
Posted By: Canterzeuhl
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 01:03
| Yes gets my vote. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 01:08
1. The Beatles = Pink Floyd = King Crimson
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 01:11
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Yes
Genesis
KC
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 01:13
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Posted By: HarbouringTheSoul
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 02:02
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I assume Triceratopsoil was joking about the "objective correct order". Anyway: 1. Yes 2. Genesis 3. King Crimson But all three have made amazing music. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 02:07
Same for me
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Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 02:44
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1. Genesis 2. Yes 3. KC ------------- 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 03:18
This, although there are times when I'd much rather listen to KC than Yes. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Argonaught
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 03:48
The words of a man, not a boy
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Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 04:01
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KC Yes Genesis ------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: akaBona
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 04:07
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lately Yes Genesis
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Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 04:44
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1. Yes 2. Genesis 3. King Crimson -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 04:47
This, but with a big gap between 2 and 3 ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: Ytse_Jam
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 05:19
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 05:23
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King Crimson
lots of noting Genesis endless nothing death itself Yes |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 05:28
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Hard to choose. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 05:32
Thank you. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 05:32
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Can't decide between Yes and KC. ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 05:36
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Posted By: antonyus
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 05:42
ohhh yessss !!!
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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 06:36
| Close To The Firth Of The Crimson King |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 06:51
| Genesis for me, follwed by Yes and KC |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 07:14
| King Crimson, but only because personal taste. All three are great. Add Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd and ELP, and you have my all time favorite bands. |
Posted By: awaken77
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 08:25
| vote for Yes, but i don't hate the other two |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 08:38
This is how I voted but it is a tie for first place for me---2 very different types of prog----both equally amazing. Yes a bit more adventurous musically.
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Posted By: ole-the-first
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 10:29
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King Crimson, of course.
------------- This night wounds time. |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 10:44
Same here but i did have to think about it. Genesis is the reason for that. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 11:12
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 12:45
------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 13:01
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today I will go with Genesis :) all 3 are awesome ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: geneyesontle
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 16:52
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Nobody can beat Genesis (in the PG days) except for Gentle Giant. Having four masterpieces in a row is very tough. ------------- Poseidon wants to Acquire the Taste of the Fragile Lamb - Derek Adrian Gabriel Anderson, singer of the band Geneyesontle |
Posted By: colorofmoney91
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 17:00
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Darkthrone
------------- http://hanashukketsu.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - Hanashukketsu |
Posted By: BrufordFreak
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 17:01
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Genesis and Yes achieved the highest heights, Yes kept it going longer (at those heights), but Crimson kept reinventing itself in ways to always push the envelope, always keep things new and unexpected. So, I find myself unable to vote for one with absolute conviction. ------------- Drew Fisher https://progisaliveandwell.blogspot.com/ |
Posted By: mongofa
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 17:45
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Haven't heard of any of them ------------- 
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Posted By: Progmind
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 18:00
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1- King Crimson 2 - Genesis 90125 - Yes |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 18:06
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I find it funny that you put Yes at the bottom and make a joke referencing one of their bad albums from the 80's, yet still are content to have Genesis at number 2.
------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 20:18
| Yes for me, though I really love all of them. |
Posted By: Iron Nate
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 22:13
| Only one is King. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 18 2012 at 22:39
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1.- Genesis 2.- King Crimson (ITCotCK and red) 3.- Yes (Because Jon "Il Castrato" Anderson) ------------- 
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Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 09:07
King Crimson! ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 09:38
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King Crimson >>> Genesis >>>>>> Yes -------------  |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 19 2012 at 18:58
| King Crimson>>>>Genesis>>Yes |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:05
I reject it cuz I'm asshurt  ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:08
thank u!!!!!!! ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:10
 when does that happen with Crimson------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:24
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^ With me and the Crims, roughly speaking, 90% of the time. You don't sound like a guy who has actually heard a single Crim record from the '69-'74 period (what's with all the laughs?
). Think you are bluffing about your history of listening to them. If you claim that they don't rock people's brains out, then your are just fooling yourself and nobody else.
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:34
Oh boy oh boy oh boy I've heard every Crimson album from the 69-74 period they have great moments at times but most of the time they don't go anywhere they do not satisfy me with but hell that's just me there an average band when compared to Genesis, Yes, Gentle Giant, Van Der Graaf Generator , do u want me to keep going ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:40
If it doesn't happen to you doesn't mean it is wrong if it does to somebody else. This piece easily crushes any Genesis or Yes track for sheer heaviness: Or this, for that matter: By the way, I love Genesis and Yes too but I doubt you are going to believe me the moment I say something positive about KC. Seems your universe is a pretty binary one. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:40
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). Think you are bluffing about your history of listening to them. If you claim that they don't rock people's brains out, then your are just fooling yourself and nobody else.Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:42
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:48
I never said they didn't influence other artists did I? I just personally think they are an average band I've heard those songs before Larks Tongues(both of them) and Red and there good just nothing to great in my opinion, so sorry if I don't think they're that great cuz you can listen to them all you want. There is no point in arguing with me. I just think they're average nobody has to get butthurt so calm down and down------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:52
Doesn't entitle you for a minute to poke fun at others opinions the way you did to Gandalff. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:53
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:56
you're right and it won't happen again, sincerely sorry. just gonna go back to posting ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 00:58
cool  |
Posted By: Gandalfino
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 02:00
| The King is the only one, as someone wrote before me, after all. |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 07:02
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King Crimson
------------- http://theprogressiveweb.blogspot.de" rel="nofollow - Visit me in Second Life to talk about music. |
Posted By: Ludjak
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 07:32
| King Crimson, easily. I like early Genesis a lot, and I respect Yes, but I can't stand most of their output. |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 08:33
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Yes is my favourite. From this 3 great bands I would rank King Crimson as second. |
Posted By: Stool Man
Date Posted: December 20 2012 at 09:14
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Out of these three I'm voting for Genesis, as I listen to them a lot more than I do the other two. ------------- rotten hound of the burnie crew |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 22:55
| Since Pink Floyd's not on the list, it has to be Genesis. |
Posted By: jude111
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 22:56
C'mon, s/he's obviously kidding. |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 21 2012 at 23:01
does it have to be heavy to be good though? not necessarily and KC are Symphonic Prog not Heavy Prog ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 00:09
| ^ You are missing the point. They don't have to be heavy to be good. Even when they are not heavy, they are goo-oo-ood. And, using the rough PA terminology and standards, no, they are not Heavy Prog, nor are they Symph Prog. They are under Eclectic Prog, though, and yet, technically, they are all three of these things ... well, ... were. Lastly, when I noted their heaviness, I meant to reflect the impression they've made on me. |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 01:36
ok ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 05:00
Doesn't have to be, but the way you questioned Gandalff using the headbanging icon was as if to suggest they are not heavy at all and that makes no sense. They are clearly very heavy and if any of the big classic prog rock bands would at all be described as headbangable by this metalhead, it would be KC, not Yes and most certainly not Genesis. |
Posted By: Earthmover
Date Posted: December 22 2012 at 06:11
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KC was symph only until Lizard, in my opinion. They maybe included some symph elements later, but they were never as symphonic as on In the Court or In the Wake. ------------- |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 23 2012 at 22:59
I ain't missing the point all I said was that it doesn't have to heavy to be good, I could of sworn that they were considered Symph Prog but I guess not ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 24 2012 at 00:59
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Posted By: Eria Tarka
Date Posted: December 24 2012 at 01:06
Obvious choice
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Posted By: Raccoon
Date Posted: December 24 2012 at 01:13
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Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 25 2012 at 20:11
------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Nogbad_The_Bad
Date Posted: December 25 2012 at 20:15
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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 25 2012 at 21:01
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: December 25 2012 at 22:35
A few concepts embarrass Prog but when they hit the nail in the head, concepts change a good Prog album into a masterpiece
I could go on for hours. Conceptual albums are a cornerstone of Prog Iván
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Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: December 25 2012 at 22:46
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For me it's going to be King Crimson. ------------- Crushed like a rose in the riverflow. |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 25 2012 at 22:53
2) I don't think that The Lamb is something to present to the world with pride. I think it rather embarrasses prog. Ergo, my following thought is that some of the other entries in your list could be questionable too. Sorry to say that.
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Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: December 26 2012 at 02:10
I agree a concept is one of the many features prog has and I agree with Ivan that when it's done right it only increases the album's quality. I don't have to agree with the list because it's purely subjective, I have my own list. But the whole thing started when PM2112 gave KC as an example for saying, if you don't have concepts you can't be better than other bands having good concepts. And that is Bullsh*t. HAVING NO CONCEPTS DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE BAND'S QUALITY! |
Posted By: ProgMetaller2112
Date Posted: December 26 2012 at 15:56
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HAVING NO CONCEPTS DOESN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE BAND'S QUALITY! you're right but it enhances the band in my opinion ------------- “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” ― George Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four "Ignorance and Prejudice and Fear walk Hand in Hand"- Neil Peart |
Posted By: Sumdeus
Date Posted: December 26 2012 at 15:59
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soo that just means you have very niche tastes and look for very specific things in music which is all very well and good for you but doesn't really have much to do with the quality of KC's music.
------------- http://sumdeus.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - Sumdeus - surreal space/psych/prog journeys |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: December 26 2012 at 16:03
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I like prog because for a while I can leave this world and enter into another. It happens with Syd Barrett who doesn't have a concept (but his whole life was a concept). In general a concept makes it simpler. A concept is possible also with instrumental only music. There's an album by Senmuth that's about the travel of Osiris in the realm of death until his resurrection which represents also the cycle of day and night. It's totally instrumental but if you know what has inspired the music what is apparently just dark and noisy becomes a story in which one can make a full mental immersion. ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: December 26 2012 at 23:02
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