Am I reading this correctly?

When I was 17, ELP was the bomb-diggity. I'd play Lucky Man over and over and over. Whee! I'd have rated ELP's debut 5/5 10/10 15/15 A+ Two thumbs up five stars really super 10.0, swell and neato supreme. I was a FAN, dammit. 

rogerthat wrote: Moogtron III wrote: moshkito wrote: Snow Dog wrote: rogerthat wrote:   ELP had many great tracks but no one masterpiece album.   Brain Salad Surgery. Trilogy   Agreed with Snow Dog ... I would even include Pictures at an Exhibition which is, by far, one of the best interpretations of the piece ever done! Tomita's is probably the 2nd one! I think the debut is a masterpiece too. Brilliant album  Disagree with all of these.  So...it is not an universal perception and therefore, none of their albums have 4.5 plus ratings.  They were just that kind of band.  Too inconsistent and too performance-oriented.  Welcome Back..., though, ought to get a very high rating, one of the best live prog albums.

Edited by Snow Dog - October 04 2012 at 06:37

lmaorofllollmao wrote: Elp is the most overrated prog band on earth. The problem is- THEYRE PRETENTIOUS AS HECK! While they are fine artists, it seems like lots of their songs is just a bunch of randomn playing on the keyboard, and then all the masses go "OMG THATS IMPOSSIBLE TO PLAY", not even thinking about what they're listening to.

I'm afraid i've gone over the hill with ELP, let me explain in a formal manner.

Except for their debut (*****), Tarkus (*****), and maybe Still You turn Me On (***), i have never been pleased by emerson lake and palmer's somewhat nihilistic sound. I can't really notice ANY emotion wheni listen to "Karn Evil 9"...to me it's simply carnival music (pun intended), and most of their albums have alot of boring songs (specifically Tarkus).

btw, I think CAMEL should be on top 10 and I've started a thread to force The Human Equation into the top 100....I don't really care at all. Top 100 is a list of albums rated by a lot of people which can be useful for newbies searching for something to start with prog. 

octopus-4 wrote: btw, I think CAMEL should be on top 10

Hell yes they should. I can't believe they got voted into the Hall of Shame in the Battle of the Bands thread.

Wow, this is funny thread, please allow me to participate slighlty

lmaorofllollmao wrote: I'm afraid i've gone over the hill with ELP, let me explain in a formal manner. Except for their debut (*****), Tarkus (*****), and maybe Still You turn Me On (***), i have never been pleased by emerson lake and palmer's somewhat nihilistic sound. I can't really notice ANY emotion wheni listen to "Karn Evil 9"...to me it's simply carnival music (pun intended), and most of their albums have alot of boring songs (specifically Tarkus).

I agree that personally I do not like Brain Salad Surgery, except for the two first marvelous tracks. Their debut and Pictures at An Exhibition are really great then, though the Nutrocker is quite annoying in my humble opinion.
About the feelings, I quess nihilistic anxiety can be a state of emotion also, though not possibly enjoyble by all?
Trilogy and Tarkus have great moments, but also some uninteresting sequences too.

I personally never liked Änglagård as much as majority, though there are wonderful moments among annoying arrangements and compositional solutions. Same blasphyme I'' iconoclast for King Crimson's debut (which I think they reworked better for their second album) and Van Der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts", where the grat themes are in my opinion lost to too confusing aprroach and cacophonic perspection. Maybe I haven't had enough LSD to tune in to the record. As a remark - I think the studio recording process has somehow affected to the end result in negative way for me, as the filmed live in studio version of "Plague of The Lighthouse Keeppers" is much better than on the LP, actually very wonderful.

Hmmh... "Hybris". That was #1 already in 2004 when observing the history link revealing how lovely everything was banck then... It is enthusiastic blow on the renaissance of symphonic prog of 90's, and the darker Swedish mellotron-drive wave of bands from that time really reveals that the country is inhabited by feeling and artistically skillful musical people, real offspring of Bellman who hailed high culture when across the bay people were eating fish eyes in the forests and crawling in sh*t with some reindeer capes
Got my own copy of that debut CD from the shop around millenia's change for 15€, and noted at some point that it was exchanging owners for about 100$ in ebay. Hopefully the reissues are done, and I really look forward of the latest Viljan's Öga album. One song I heard was muych moar consistent from structure than the compositions on their eralier two albums.

I think all kind of lists indicate some sort of trends and fashions, never objective truth of quality as such can't measure. I suggest focusing to form own opinions and enjoy the world's beautiful artifacts without comparing your likings to other people's opinions. I dare to claimn it's one step closer to independence and freedom of compassion.

Peace to you all

dtguitarfan wrote: thellama73 wrote: octopus-4 wrote: btw, I think CAMEL should be on top 10 Hell yes they should. I can't believe they got voted into the Hall of Shame in the Battle of the Bands thread. Oh, that thread is completely invalid.  It was controlled by the haters and the only purpose of it was for them to express their hatred of some of the most well known and respected Progressive bands ever.

Invalid?

Stop being ridiculous.

dtguitarfan wrote: thellama73 wrote: octopus-4 wrote: btw, I think CAMEL should be on top 10 Hell yes they should. I can't believe they got voted into the Hall of Shame in the Battle of the Bands thread. Oh, that thread is completely invalid.  It was controlled by the haters and the only purpose of it was for them to express their hatred of some of the most well known and respected Progressive bands ever.

Edited by Dayvenkirq - October 04 2012 at 10:37

Dayvenkirq wrote: dtguitarfan wrote: thellama73 wrote: octopus-4 wrote: btw, I think CAMEL should be on top 10 Hell yes they should. I can't believe they got voted into the Hall of Shame in the Battle of the Bands thread. Oh, that thread is completely invalid.  It was controlled by the haters and the only purpose of it was for them to express their hatred of some of the most well known and respected Progressive bands ever. That's funny - some of the most well know and respected progressive bands ever are in the Hall of Fame.

With the exception of Camel and Kraftwerk, I agree completely with both Halls.