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^ Ideally, I think we should choose the same number of albums each from your list, then it would be much fairer to all involved when it comes time for you to total up the points. Smile
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

What happens next then? 


If you would like to join the discussion here, the subject is:
David_D wrote:
"<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">Here it goes.</span>
<div style="font-size: small; : rgb248, 248, 252; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">This second part is entirely different from the first one, and requires, I think, much more consideration. It's of course everyone's own choice whether to join it, but I hope you find it as an interesting discussion.<div style="font-size: small; : rgb248, 248, 252; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">Well, my initial thinking about it is that our chosen albums are an expression of our personal musical taste while the top 30 list can be said to be an expression of general opinion about these albums.<div style="font-size: small; : rgb248, 248, 252; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">So, I have been thinking about the question whether one can conclude something about own taste in relation to the general opinion, and whether there might be a difference between the persons in the top of our rating result list and those in the lower part (here we could surely use some more persons who chose a small number of albums).
<span style=": rgb248, 248, 252; font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small;">What do you think?</span>"



Oh, ok!!😄

Well I'm somewhere near the bottom, and what it says to me is that I'm not stuck in the 1970s "golden era" like so many on here. Yes, I do love some of the classic stuff, but my own personal top album list is mainly much more recent stuff. There's a helluva lot of stuff from all eras that I don't know and I don't have time to get into. I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)....
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Ideally, I think we should choose the same number of albums each from your list, then it would be much fairer to all involved when it comes time for you to total up the points. Smile

But the whole idea was to see how many albums each person would choose from the top 30 list, and the meaning of our result list is just to represent that, and to be the basis for the following discussion:
David_D wrote:
"Here it goes.
This second part is entirely different from the first one, and requires, I think, much more consideration. It's of course everyone's own choice whether to join it, but I hope you find it as an interesting discussion.
Well, my initial thinking about it is that our chosen albums are an expression of our personal musical taste while the top 30 list can be said to be an expression of general opinion about these albums.
So, I have been thinking about the question whether one can conclude something about own taste in relation to the general opinion, and whether there might be a difference between the persons in the top of our rating result list and those in the lower part (here we could surely use some more persons who chose a small number of albums).
What do you think?"

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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

 
Well I'm somewhere near the bottom, and what it says to me is that I'm not stuck in the 1970s "golden era" like so many on here. Yes, I do love some of the classic stuff, but my own personal top album list is mainly much more recent stuff. There's a helluva lot of stuff from all eras that I don't know and I don't have time to get into. I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)....

Okay, thank you, it's very good to have your comment here.
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

"I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)...."


What is CTTE! ?


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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

"I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)...."


What is CTTE! ?
YES - Close to the Edge.

Another abbreviation which often pops up here is ITCHYCOCK, which stands for "In the Court of the Crimson King", sort of. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

"I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)...."


What is CTTE! ?
YES - Close to the Edge.

Another abbreviation which often pops up here is ITCHYCOCK, which stands for "In the Court of the Crimson King", sort of. Tongue

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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Ideally, I think we should choose the same number of albums each from your list, then it would be much fairer to all involved when it comes time for you to total up the points. Smile

But the whole idea was to see how many albums each person would choose from the top 30 list, and the meaning of our result list is just to represent that, and to be the basis for the following discussion:
David_D wrote:
"Here it goes.
This second part is entirely different from the first one, and requires, I think, much more consideration. It's of course everyone's own choice whether to join it, but I hope you find it as an interesting discussion.
Well, my initial thinking about it is that our chosen albums are an expression of our personal musical taste while the top 30 list can be said to be an expression of general opinion about these albums.
So, I have been thinking about the question whether one can conclude something about own taste in relation to the general opinion, and whether there might be a difference between the persons in the top of our rating result list and those in the lower part (here we could surely use some more persons who chose a small number of albums).
What do you think?"


Which is very well exemplified by

Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:
 
Well I'm somewhere near the bottom, and what it says to me is that I'm not stuck in the 1970s "golden era" like so many on here. Yes, I do love some of the classic stuff, but my own personal top album list is mainly much more recent stuff. There's a helluva lot of stuff from all eras that I don't know and I don't have time to get into. I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)...


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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Ideally, I think we should choose the same number of albums each from your list, then it would be much fairer to all involved when it comes time for you to total up the points. Smile

Whether it's good or not good to be at the top of our result list is a very subjective opinion, as you surely agree.
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Ideally, I think we should choose the same number of albums each from your list, then it would be much fairer to all involved when it comes time for you to total up the points. Smile


That wasn't the point at all Paul! LOL
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Ideally, I think we should choose the same number of albums each from your list, then it would be much fairer to all involved when it comes time for you to total up the points. Smile


That wasn't the point at all Paul! LOL
In that case, I missed the point entirely. Tongue
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Well I'm somewhere near the bottom, and what it says to me is that I'm not stuck in the 1970s "golden era" like so many on here. Yes, I do love some of the classic stuff, but my own personal top album list is mainly much more recent stuff. There's a helluva lot of stuff from all eras that I don't know and I don't have time to get into. I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)....

If that’s how it works, then I ought to be almost dead bottom, as while I like music from all eras, most of my listening is contemporary. Hardly anything I’ve listened to this year has not been released this year. Hardly anything I listened to last year was not released last year.

If that were the intention, then it would have made more sense to name only the bands and not the the albums of the bands. If Opeth were there without Blackwater Park, I would have included them in my list. But as much as I like Blackwater Park (and I love it), it’s probably not in my top five Opeth albums, so even though I rate it highly, I wasn’t sure it was high enough to include in my list.

Basically, I included any of the albums listed, only if they were in my top five from that band, regardless of how much I might like them. Furthermore, because I refused to rank them, or compare them to each other, then the list I gave is not as representative of what I like, had it been just bands and not specific albums listed. Again, to use Opeth as an example, I like Blackwater Park far more than many of the albums I did list.

Finally, the list was fairly conventional and “safe” (for lack of a better word), so it didn’t really allow any representation of what any individual might choose to listen to. I suspect that’s why there were so many “or something” replies. I was tempted to do that myself, as I found the list of albums so uninspired/uninspiring. But as it’s a game, it seemed churlish to take it all too seriously, and rebel against something that ultimately is a bit of meaningless fun.

I’m hoping there is more to the game than this discussion period, as I definitely don’t think any conclusions can be drawn that are in any way meaningful given what has occurred so far. I await part three with interest….. 🤔

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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

^ Ideally, I think we should choose the same number of albums each from your list, then it would be much fairer to all involved when it comes time for you to total up the points. Smile


That wasn't the point at all Paul! LOL
In that case, I missed the point entirely. Tongue

I got lost when all the dots showed up. It feels like at some point when you leave, they give you a "fun size" Three Musketeers bar and thank you for staring at a wall. But I don't know. Confused
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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:


Oh, ok!!😄

Well I'm somewhere near the bottom, and what it says to me is that I'm not stuck in the 1970s "golden era" like so many on here. Yes, I do love some of the classic stuff, but my own personal top album list is mainly much more recent stuff. There's a helluva lot of stuff from all eras that I don't know and I don't have time to get into. I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)....

And I can tell you that you might very well be the person who in the best way has answered the questions I wanted to be answered.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:


Oh, ok!!😄

Well I'm somewhere near the bottom, and what it says to me is that I'm not stuck in the 1970s "golden era" like so many on here. Yes, I do love some of the classic stuff, but my own personal top album list is mainly much more recent stuff. There's a helluva lot of stuff from all eras that I don't know and I don't have time to get into. I know what I like, and I like (most of) what I know (but that doesn't include CTTE!)....

And I can tell you that you might very well be the person who in the best way has answered the questions I wanted to be answered.


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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I got lost when all the dots showed up. It feels like at some point when you leave, they give you a "fun size" Three Musketeers bar and thank you for staring at a wall. But I don't know. Confused

I wished, you were more communicative, and maybe more constructive, as well, but what do I know with all this lack of communication.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I got lost when all the dots showed up. It feels like at some point when you leave, they give you a "fun size" Three Musketeers bar and thank you for staring at a wall. But I don't know. Confused

I wished, you were more communicative, and maybe more constructive, as well, but what do I know with all this lack of communication.
Don't worry David. We all have trouble deciphering Prog Aardvark's enigmatic communications. Tongue
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Originally posted by Psychedelic Paul Psychedelic Paul wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

I got lost when all the dots showed up. It feels like at some point when you leave, they give you a "fun size" Three Musketeers bar and thank you for staring at a wall. But I don't know. Confused

I wished, you were more communicative, and maybe more constructive, as well, but what do I know with all this lack of communication.
Don't worry David. We all have trouble deciphering Prog Aardvark's enigmatic communications. Tongue

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Originally posted by nick_h_nz nick_h_nz wrote:

I await part three with interest….. 🤔

Sorry, Nick, I must disappoint you here, and maybe I must admit, the "game" talk was exagurated and was ment in relation to the form and not the content.

About my method, I can only repeat that the list was
"This is a list of top 30 all-time albums made in 2009 based on all the ratings on RYM and PA, but only 1 (studio) album for each band is included."
which was ment to be representation of general opinion about the albums listed.
And what each of us chose was ment as a representation of personal taste, as it should be chosen on basis of:
"If you want to join this game, please, choose all the albums you would rate very high and write them (including the beginning number) in ranked order from (your) highest rated to the lowest."


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Originally posted by essexboyinwales essexboyinwales wrote:

 Oh, ok!!😄

Well I'm somewhere near the bottom, and what it says to me is that I'm not stuck in the 1970s "golden era" like so many on here. ....

If to problematise your explanation, I could say, half of the album on the top 30 list are post-70's, of which only three are from the 80's.


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