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Points: 12600 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 16 2012 at 23:21
Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

The Drummers from Guns and Roses
 
This will make you change your mind :
 
 
 
He was also with Tori Amos in her band Y Kant Tori Read, nothing spectacular but he shared drums with...Vinnie Colaiuta !


Not bad- I guess I'm referring to their studio recordings- always felt like he played SUCH weak breaks- and never had ANY variety- Stuido recordings that is...



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Pete wasn't best, and I think Ringo was a damn solid drummer.  It is not all about fills and poly-rhythms.  A drummer drives the band; Pete Best just could not provide the drive the Beatles needed to excell.  A bad drummer, or even a mediocre one, can impede a band's success as a band (I am not talking about commercialism here), but a good drummer provides propulsion.  Ringo did that.  Lars does that, and so did Peter Kriss when he was a member of Kiss.  As Dean said, they all fit their bands.  I have mixed views about Charlie Watts - he keeps the Stones going during a song, which is a good thing, but I do agree that he is rather mechanistic and severely limited.
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Points: 28054 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2012 at 01:54
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by mongofa mongofa wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Meg White. To be honest I was never sure what the point of the White Stripes was. I just didn't get it. Simon King from Hawkwind should probably be on the list. He's pretty bad, certainly when compared to other prog drummers. Lars Ulrich? Really? I always thought he was pretty good. Not the best in his field, I guess, but certainly no light weight.


What do you mean by you don't get the "point"? Does a band have to have a "point"?


I guess not. I just couldn't hear whatever it was that won them such critical acclaim.
Good tunes mainly. I'm not a fan of straight forward hard rock (or whatever genere it falls into) but I do quite like Elephant as an album.
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Points: 28054 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2012 at 01:56
Ringo Starr was quite obviously a proficient drummer. You couldn't be playing that music and not be.
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Points: 6632 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2012 at 02:21
I don't know if this has been mentioned but I always thought Ray Phillips's druming on Budgie's Never Turn Your Back...is just awful. Breadfan is a classic song from that album and it could be so much more with the right drummer, instead of leading the song the drums are dragging behind, I hate when that happens.
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Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Lol Tolhurst almost single-handedly ruined Seventeen Seconds.



Apparently Robert Smith taught Lol to play, and by his own admission Smith can't play the drums.

The songs were good back then though.
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Points: 16130 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2012 at 04:06
Originally posted by Sheavy Sheavy wrote:


Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by mongofa mongofa wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Meg White. To be honest I was never sure what the point of the White Stripes was. I just didn't get it. Simon King from Hawkwind should probably be on the list. He's pretty bad, certainly when compared to other prog drummers. Lars Ulrich? Really? I always thought he was pretty good. Not the best in his field, I guess, but certainly no light weight.


What do you mean by you don't get the "point"? Does a band have to have a "point"?


I guess not. I just couldn't hear whatever it was that won them such critical acclaim.

 
Besides bringing garage rock/blues back into the limelight with great songs and a great guitarist?Confused
 
Jack White also has a very distinct tone. Very raw and energetic.  Like he is torturing his guitar, and I really like.
 
 


Sorry, they just didn't do it for me. I preferred the Dead Weather. I agree Jack is a good guitarist. I'm just not much of a blues fan. It's not a crime.
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Points: 65266 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2012 at 04:15
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Ringo Starr was quite obviously a proficient drummer. You couldn't be playing that music and not be.
all four of them are undervalued as players--   clearly they were no Genesis but they were consummate professionals.  Or perhaps I should say 'naturals'.
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Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

The Drummers from Guns and Roses and The Doors


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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

^ but that's a drum solo--   anyway, I love Stevie but I know what I heard and it was funny, so don't get your panties in a bunch

 
 
Excuse me, but you made a highly objectionable generalized statement about the capabilities of blind musicians and I called you on it, so there's no need to make such insinuations.  That you did suggests perhaps that my comment hit home and hit a raw nerve while it did. 
 
At least as a longtime member of this forum, you should be more graceful in accepting your mistake.  How on earth can you be sure that a blind drummer would sound out of place playing with sighted drummers?  There must be something terribly wrong if you cannot see how closed minded and prejudiced your statement is. 


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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Lars is a great drummer.


Agreed!  He shouldn't even be on this list.
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Points: 8138 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2012 at 09:41
Originally posted by infocat infocat wrote:

Lol Tolhurst almost single-handedly ruined Seventeen Seconds.
That's a great album in my opinion. But indeed drums are not the highllight here, you could obtain the same effect with a drum machine. But the music aimed to be "cold" from this album on, so maybe that was the effect sought after. Lol's drumming improved a lot on 'faith' and 'pornography'.
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:


Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Ringo Starr was quite obviously a proficient drummer. You couldn't be playing that music and not be.
all four of them are undervalued as players--   clearly they were no Genesis but they were consummate professionals.  Or perhaps I should say 'naturals'.
They were good music makers. They played profieciently enough. I'm sure if someone asks them to play some jazz the results would've been a big pile of fail. Nobody who ever thinks on the Beatles ever thinks "oh, technique!". But they could teach some much more technical bands a couple of lessons on songwriting.

Who would be the best instrumentalist there? Harrison?
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what is peoples opinions about Phil Rudds drumming?? is it good or bad
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Points: 34055 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2012 at 12:59
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:


Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Ringo Starr was quite obviously a proficient drummer. You couldn't be playing that music and not be.
all four of them are undervalued as players--   clearly they were no Genesis but they were consummate professionals.  Or perhaps I should say 'naturals'.
They were good music makers. They played profieciently enough. I'm sure if someone asks them to play some jazz the results would've been a big pile of fail. Nobody who ever thinks on the Beatles ever thinks "oh, technique!". But they could teach some much more technical bands a couple of lessons on songwriting.

Who would be the best instrumentalist there? Harrison?
I would say overall McCartney is the best musician, Harrison the best soloist, and powerhouse, and Lennon the most profound and clearest musical tallent, and most distinct voice, siner, though Paul was more soulfull but Lennon have that timbre that hits your tear channal.
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A lot of the drummers on this list shouldn't be here, in my opinion. Lars? Really? I mean, I'm not big on Metallica at all, I used to be, but Lars is actually a pretty decent drummer and he perfectly suits Metallica (as stated before). As I remembered though, he created some pretty powerhouse thrash beats and he was surely promoted the now famous double bass foot technique to legions of young drummers. I can understand not liking his style, but he's actually quite technically proficient and an important drummer in the history of rock.
One of drummer that comes to mind as being a bit stale and dull, is Mick Pointer. I've only heard a couple of Arena songs, so I can't really fully judge for his work in that band, but I don't like him on the first Marillion album at all - No substance to his playing. All subjective of course. Cool
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Points: 5012 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 17 2012 at 13:19
From the list though, The Shaggs. Oh god. LOL

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Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

A lot of the drummers on this list shouldn't be here, in my opinion. Lars? Really? I mean, I'm not big on Metallica at all, I used to be, but Lars is actually a pretty decent drummer and he perfectly suits Metallica (as stated before). As I remembered though, he created some pretty powerhouse thrash beats and he was surely promoted the now famous double bass foot technique to legions of young drummers. I can understand not liking his style, but he's actually quite technically proficient and an important drummer in the history of rock.
One of drummer that comes to mind as being a bit stale and dull, is Mick Pointer. I've only heard a couple of Arena songs, so I can't really fully judge for his work in that band, but I don't like him on the first Marillion album at all - No substance to his playing. All subjective of course. Cool

Mick Pointer is the Nick Mason of Neo-prog.
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Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

I always thought Mick Fleetwood was a hack. Can he play in anything other than 4/4? Does he know what polyrhythms are? Has he even heard a jazz record in his life? That guy also plays with his mouth open. I'm surprised he hasn't choked on a fly yet.
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Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

A lot of the drummers on this list shouldn't be here, in my opinion. Lars? Really? I mean, I'm not big on Metallica at all, I used to be, but Lars is actually a pretty decent drummer and he perfectly suits Metallica (as stated before). As I remembered though, he created some pretty powerhouse thrash beats and he was surely promoted the now famous double bass foot technique to legions of young drummers. I can understand not liking his style, but he's actually quite technically proficient and an important drummer in the history of rock.

 
Well I think he used to be pretty good, but he isn't too great now methinks. He is the Ringo Starr or thrash. Many hate him and think he sucks, but he really isn't a bad drummer.
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